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vavet

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I got a quote for painting the inside of my garage. I like the very typical white on the top, gray on the bottom, with a red stripe separating the two.
All white is $1175.
Adding the gray and red is an additional $850.

This is for a 24x32x12 foot detached garage.
The basic paint at $1175 is a little more than I expected, but I don't think its crazy. The additional $850 for the gray and red is WAY more than i thought it would be.
I'm wondering if there's a more cost effective way to do it. What if I had him paint the white and gray, but not the red. Could I do a vinyl molding around? How hard would that be?
 
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With all respect, why pay someone to do the job? Painting a garage is just about the easiest thing on earth, and with some of the modern masking tapes, putting on stripes would be trivial.

I'd strongly suggest you consider doing it yourself and blowing the savings on something fun.
 

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I was going to say I don't think I'd pay someone to paint, especially for $2000, especially a simply shaped room, even with the added difficulty of doing the walls two different colors with a stripe (which I will admit I have never done).

I think vavet you had said elsewhere on the forum that you are recovering from some kind surgery or something like that. And if that's the case then hiring a painter is probably a good idea and I would understand why you'd want/need to hire it out. If you are up to it though, for painting, I would say do it yourself.
 

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Assuming the walls are primed and ready for paint, figure out where you want the red stripe. Also how wide that stripe will be.
Paint that red, doesn't have to be perfect, just make sure you paint WIDER than the finished red stripe will be.
Now once it has cured, mask off the stripe, covering the red paint. Mask it to the width you want the stripe to end up. No use that masking to paint the white above and the grey below.
Peel the tape and you should have sharp edges on the red stripe, with the white and grey on either side.
Plan the strip for a common width of tape to make it easy on yourself.
 

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You could prepaint some thin trim, maybe 1/4" pine and mount it with trim screws or brads.

If you don't want to do this yourself, you should get at least one more quote. The guy that gave you that price might not want or need the work.
 
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I was going to say I don't think I'd pay someone to paint, especially for $2000, especially a simply shaped room, even with the added difficulty of doing the walls two different colors with a stripe (which I will admit I have never done).

I think vavet you had said elsewhere on the forum that you are recovering from some kind surgery or something like that. And if that's the case then hiring a painter is probably a good idea and I would understand why you'd want/need to hire it out. If you are up to it though, for painting, I would say do it yourself.

You have a good memory. I had back surgery about 2 months ago and I'm still recovering from that. I was in pretty good shape about 3 weeks after the surgery but then started backsliding. I'm not sure if I reinjured it or if I'm just healing slower than usual.
Normally, I would paint it myself, but I'm not up for the reaching, stretching, bending, etc.
 

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Looking at Mikes suggestion for a painted board, that would work great.
Sort of a rub strip protecting the drywall.

Vavet, hope you heal up quick!
 

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Assuming the walls are primed and ready for paint, figure out where you want the red stripe. Also how wide that stripe will be.
Paint that red, doesn't have to be perfect, just make sure you paint WIDER than the finished red stripe will be.
Now once it has cured, mask off the stripe, covering the red paint. Mask it to the width you want the stripe to end up. No use that masking to paint the white above and the grey below.
Peel the tape and you should have sharp edges on the red stripe, with the white and grey on either side.
Plan the strip for a common width of tape to make it easy on yourself.

The best way I have found in painting stripes is once you have masked off the area where you want the stripe, you need to seal the tape to the wall with paint so that the new color can not bleed through under the tape

So if your working on the red to white transition, go over the edge of the tape
with red paint, let it dry and then paint your white. When you pull the tape you will have an extremely sharp line
 

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The best way I have found in painting stripes is once you have masked off the area where you want the stripe, you need to seal the tape to the wall with paint so that the new color can not bleed through under the tape

So if your working on the red to white transition, go over the edge of the tape
with red paint, let it dry and then paint your white. When you pull the tape you will have an extremely sharp line

I agree that sealing the tape down with the paint of the color that's going underneath it will stop bleed through, but it also presents two problems.

1) You now need more white to hide the red. Not a big problem, but just something to keep in mind, and

2) Putting tape over fresh paint is a BAD idea, as all too often the tape lifts with the paint under it. Yes, they make green and purple tapes for this purpose, but I've had them all lift chunks on different occasions.
 

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When we painted our boys rooms we painted the top and bottom on the wall, put a line where the center of the 1x6 was going and painted to that. Used the 1x6 and the stripe, it was way, way easier and look better than just a painted stripe IMHO.
 

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You have a good memory. I had back surgery about 2 months ago and I'm still recovering from that. I was in pretty good shape about 3 weeks after the surgery but then started backsliding. I'm not sure if I reinjured it or if I'm just healing slower than usual.
Normally, I would paint it myself, but I'm not up for the reaching, stretching, bending, etc.

Ah, I though it was back surgery but couldn't quite remember. I hope all goes well with your recovery! I feel for you since my BIL has been going through similar for over a year and multiple surgeries.

I hope your garage goes well too! It'll be nice once it's painted and your working out there.
 

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Paint red over the other colors, not white over red. But, how much stuff you going to have? I a little like putting the outlets above 48 inches so you can lean plywood,,, when its empty this would w2ork but lotso garages have lotta stuff that pretty much covers the walls when done.
 

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I always thought this looked like a GM service shirt... what about just having it painted white... then do the gray/red when your up to it..
 

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The best way I have found in painting stripes is once you have masked off the area where you want the stripe, you need to seal the tape to the wall with paint so that the new color can not bleed through under the tape

So if your working on the red to white transition, go over the edge of the tape
with red paint, let it dry and then paint your white. When you pull the tape you will have an extremely sharp line

Thats what i did and works PERFECTLY
 

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The best way I have found in painting stripes is once you have masked off the area where you want the stripe, you need to seal the tape to the wall with paint so that the new color can not bleed through under the tape

So if your working on the red to white transition, go over the edge of the tape
with red paint, let it dry and then paint your white. When you pull the tape you will have an extremely sharp line

I would paint the stripe color first, then tape, then seal. Then you don't have to go back and try to match the unpainted edge.

I have a friend in the business, they get $2~4 per sq/ft for painting. I get a discount on paint, and currently decent interior wall paint is running $30/gallon. Runs into money quick. Why my OSB is aging gracefully as bare OSB.
 
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Have them paint it all white now, add the gray and stripe yourself later on when you're feeling better.


It's all about time - if they paint the whole thing one color they can do the job a lot quicker than if they have to paint half of it, wait for that to dry, tape it off and paint the other half, wait for that to dry, then tape it off a third time to add the stripe.
 

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Wow, 2 grand. I'd be tempted to drive down and paint it myself for that price.

Personally, I would save my money till I was healed up and do it myself. Any teenagers in the family that want to make a few bucks ?
 

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Two grand? With an airless unit, one guy ( but of there will be two)....

( 1) tough long day for the white and masking ( tough due to the prep and ceiling, supply procurement)

(1) easy day for the gray and red. (2 hours to paint the grey, 30 minutes the red,
3 hour masking and line setup, machine cleanup 1 hour)

If prime coat needed add another day.
 
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I had my 24x30 garage painted in that manner. My friend owns a painting business and he charged me $1200 including the paint. I have a ton of paint left over too. The lines are beyond perfect-crisp, perfectly spaced etc. I know I never would have been able to do as good a job as they did. For me it was worth it to pay someone to do it.
 

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You have a good memory. I had back surgery about 2 months ago and I'm still recovering from that. I was in pretty good shape about 3 weeks after the surgery but then started backsliding. I'm not sure if I reinjured it or if I'm just healing slower than usual.
Normally, I would paint it myself, but I'm not up for the reaching, stretching, bending, etc.

Pay some neighborhood kids to paint it?
 

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It was only a small comment above, but I would not try to paint anything over red paint. It will show through and need at least three coats to cover. Paint the other colors, then add the red stripe.
Years ago, I painted some red in my son’s room. Painted over it to sell the house, and it was driving me crazy covering it. And this was after using a coat of Kilz or similar. Maybe paint technology has changed, maybe I used the worlds strongest red paint shade, I don’t know, but I swore I’d never paint red anywhere that had any possibility of having to be covered at some point in the future.
 

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I'm right down the road from you......I could give you a hand if you decide you don't want to hire it out. Hell, I was just in Ashland yesterday and could have stopped over had I known. LOL.

Jeff
 

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Wow, 2 grand. I'd be tempted to drive down and paint it myself for that price.

Personally, I would save my money till I was healed up and do it myself. Any teenagers in the family that want to make a few bucks ?

This. Wait until you feel better. No way i would blow 2 grand on an interior paint job like that. Plus if you do it yourself you can get a little fun with the stripe, maybe jog it up and down in a few places!
 

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Don't pay someone to do it, especially at 2K! It's simple enough to do it yourself.
 

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Too many recommendations for painting the red first. That's creating a lot of extra work, as red is the "hottest" color you could possibly paint. It will bleed through everything but black, and sometimes even then you will see through it.

Paint the white first, then the grey, then mask of the red stripe for last over the top.

The trick with painting stripes with perfect edges is that once you have masked off the stripe, you "seal" the edge of the tape with the original color underneath it (in this case, white or grey). That seals the edge with a color that if it leaks, you won't see it. Then paint over the top with your stripe color. It works beautifully, without having to run a bunch of coats over a dark color to get complete coverage.

Work light to dark and you won't have any coverage issues.
 

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This is also the perfect opportunity to buy a laser level if you don't have one already.

I've done a lot of painting and white over red will require too many coats. I'm in the agreement on painting white, then grey, wait a day and paint the red stripe on top. If you buy the paint there should be some local labors that would be happy to roll for a few $$.

Do the walls need prep (patching and taping) or is everything ready to go? If significant prep is needed then the quote for just white paint isn't bad. You can always add the grey and red later when you are feeling better.
 

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Red and yellow are traditionally harder paint colours to paint over. I think paints have evolved alot over the years but putting white on top of red is still the wrong order.
 

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I found a thread by Turboblog called the Turbo Garage. Search that and on page three he shows, step by step, the placement of a vinyl stripe. I used his recommendations in my shop (white on grey with red vinyl) and it turned out great. Did the paint myself. I think the vinyl tape was maybe $100 or less IIRC.:beer:
 

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Get an airless. RENT an airless. Spray the top half, the bottom half and let them dry. Return the airless.

Get a couple rolls of masking tape, masking paper, and paint your red stripe. All done.

I bet it'll be far less than 2 grand. And YOU have the pride of ownership to say "I DID THIS!"
 

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Get more quotes. If you can't find something more reasonable from the pros, ask around the nearest universities for students looking to make some money. Provide the paint and ladders and stuff and pay them for their time.

If you decide to do it yourself, paint white/gray/red in that order. I did mine using a laser level to help spot while I was taping for the stripe.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7684641#post7684641
 

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I painted both of my garages myself, red stripe on one and blue on the other. Lot's of Kilz and topcoat, plus I bought an airless sprayer to replace the one I had that died halfway through the second job. Painters tape made easy work of marking the stripe areas to be painted. Easy to do and saved a ton of money.








 

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I live and work in the area and would be glad to help, too. We're closing on a new house today so I don't have time to take it on solo but I will help.
Pm me
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I'm right down the road from you......I could give you a hand if you decide you don't want to hire it out. Hell, I was just in Ashland yesterday and could have stopped over had I known. LOL.

Jeff
 
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