How to get to my 60a sub panel.

[Dansz24]

I am trying to wire a garage addition. I have a outside meter panel combo. I am going to run a 60a sub feed to the new garage addition. It's a fairly short run. I have #4 se cable to run In 1-1/4 schedule 40 conduit. I don't know how to get the cable from the exterior of the garage to the sub pannel.

I have a lb going through the plywood exterior. I can't figure out how to make the 90 upward to get to the sub panel.

Can I run the se cable outside of conduit once inside of the wall cavity?

Thank you for your help

 

[Bert_]

Re-do the outside conduit so it comes into the back of the panel.

Or put a pull box in the wall below the panel but you cannot bury it in the wall the cover must remain accessible once the wall is done.

*edit, I see you are going to use SE cable which is fine without conduit for any part of the run. After the LB just run it in the wall and use a clamp to enter the panel. Make sure you are using the appropriate 4 wire cable which is normally referred to as SER rather than just SE.

 

[Aceman]

If it was mine, I would completely remove the exterior conduit as you have it.

I would sheet/weatherproof the exterior of the garage first.

Then I would install a short straight conduit sleeve from the right side of the meter main directly into the wall cavity with an end bell on it. SE cable would chase through this sleeve and through the garage wall framing horizontally and up and into the panel.

This will be cleaner and simpler than the setup you're trying to go with. Be sure to duct seal the conduit to keep cold/warm air from mixing.

 

[Dansz24]

Make sure you are using the appropriate 4 wire cable which is normally referred to as SER rather than just SE.

This is the cable that I was sold.

 

[Dansz24]

Then I would install a short straight conduit sleeve from the right side of the meter main directly into the wall cavity with an end bell on it. SE cable would chase through this sleeve and through the garage wall framing horizontally and up and into the panel.

That would be easier but I can't move the sub panel to be directly next to the main panel. This garage is an addition and there isn't a full bay to install the panel there.

I asked the builder about siding and he wants the electrical inspected before the exterior is put up, not sure why.

 

[Aceman]

That would be easier but I can't move the sub panel to be directly next to the main panel. This garage is an addition and there isn't a full bay to install the panel there.

I asked the builder about siding and he wants the electrical inspected before the exterior is put up, not sure why.

I think you're misunderstanding my post.

The conduit out of the metermain would just be a sleeve into the garage wall framing. It wouldn't run complete to the subpanel.

This would allow you to run SE into the garage framing and over to where ever the subpanel is located.

 

[Dansz24]

I think you're misunderstanding my post.

The conduit out of the metermain would just be a sleeve into the garage wall framing. It wouldn't run complete to the subpanel.

This would allow you to run SE into the garage framing and over to where ever the subpanel is located.

Ahh. I'm tracking now! So SER is OK to run un-protected inside the wall cavity. I plan to drywall the garage in the future.

 

[Bert_]

Ahh. I'm tracking now! So SER is OK to run un-protected inside the wall cavity. I plan to drywall the garage in the future.

The rules for it are similar to romex except you can also run it outside. I like to sleeve it outside like Aceman is suggesting because the plastic jacket gets brittle after years in the sun.

Looks like you got the correct 4 wire stuff.

 

[Dansz24]

Great, thank you for all the help.

Next question, I know the ground and neutral need to be isolated at the sub panel. Where does the ground and the neutral in the sub panel get connected at the main panel? I assume the neutral gets connected where all the other neutrals are but does the ground go there as well?

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Great, thank you for all the help.

Next question, I know the ground and neutral need to be isolated at the sub panel. Where does the ground and the neutral in the sub panel get connected at the main panel? I assume the neutral gets connected where all the other neutrals are but does the ground go there as well?

If its truly the main service panel, then all grounds and neutrals can terminate on the neutral bar since it is bonded.

The main service panel is the only panel where this can occur...

refer to comment #3 on here:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356460

 

[Dansz24]

Wow, I didn't realized that was such a common question. Thank you for the link to the sticky post.

 

[Dansz24]

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