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How to make riveted pivots like this?

2cool2hear

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I want to learn how to make rivets similar to this. The riveted pivot points has to be able to expand and contract with ease, yet maintain precise settings. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Webpage, youtube, book, or whatever will be greatly appreciated.

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larry_g

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One way to maintain freedom of movement is to put a spacer between the two pieces of the joint. It could be a permanent bearing like a plastic washer or removable like a piece of paper or a U shaped piece of shim stock.

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In that application, you will want to only flare the exposed tail over. Normally with solid, or pop rivets, the body expands into the hole as well as flaring the head. It will take a special "hollow point" rivet, and a quality tool capable of repeatable results to pull this off.

In industrial production, there is a machine that rolls/wobbles the tail of the rivet without compressing the remainder of the body. Pretty neat stuff, but very specialized.
 

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I was taught to make freedom joints with a shim, I simply cut a relief in a washer pop the rivet and remove the washer.

So if you want a 1/16" of play and have a 1/4" pin, you will use a 1/16" washer with a 1/4 in center hole and then cut 1/4" relief in it so it can be removed after the rivet is crimped... Pretty simple and I save my shims in my rivet box so I don't have to make them in most cases anymore since I have a handful of them already made...
 
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If you can deal with a "hole" on one side you want semi tubular rivets of the proper length and crush. If you want it to be solid on both side, as say the modern channellock pliers are, it is a process called orbital riveting as Yaidunno mentioned and take specialized tooling, typically outside of the home shop scope.
 

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I was taught to make freedom joints with a shim, I simply cut a relief in a washer pop the rivet and remove the washer.

So if you want a 1/16" of play and have a 1/4" pin, you will use a 1/16" washer with a 1/4 in center hole and then cut 1/4" relief in it so it can be removed after the rivet is crimped... Pretty simple and I save my shims in my rivet box so I don't have to make them in most cases anymore since I have a handful of them already made...

Brilliant! :bowdown:

Can you snap a photo of a shim/washer?
 

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Kitchen butter knife, not from your wife's kitchen drawer, pick the appropriate thickness, drill a hole, use a grinder/saw to notch out the side. Lots of leverage to remove when done. I may have one in storage that I made long ago when I was still building armor.
 

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There is probably a dozen ways to do it. You can use a custom made shouldered rivet, you can use a drilled rivet that the bottom of the drilled portion is a specific depth so when it is rolled over the punch will bottom out, you can use the orbital riveter which is more than likely how that is done. An orbital riveter is depth adjustable. You can go the shim route, rivet the part tight, then remove the shim, you can have a rivet fixture that has a predetermined depth to it, it can be done in a die shoe with a nest that will rivet all the rivets at once to a predetermined depth, AND probably a few more ways.

I've made literally thousands of punches for an orbital riveter, and for hand riveting. It all depends on the part, the rivet, how many rivets, and how many parts are going to be made to determine as to how you want to do it.

A drilled or semi-tubular will hold the body size while the rest is rolled over. A solid rivet will swell out on the complete body. An orbital riveter is normally used on solid rivets, but can be used on tubular rivets.

Believe it or not, there is an art to riveting things. It's not just grabbing a pop rivet and a rivet gun.
 
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I was taught to make freedom joints with a shim, I simply cut a relief in a washer pop the rivet and remove the washer.

So if you want a 1/16" of play and have a 1/4" pin, you will use a 1/16" washer with a 1/4 in center hole and then cut 1/4" relief in it so it can be removed after the rivet is crimped... Pretty simple and I save my shims in my rivet box so I don't have to make them in most cases anymore since I have a handful of them already made...

we need pics!!!:thumbup:
 
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