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i have a piece of 1/4 " thick, 10" wide 4' long pipe with ragged cuts on each end.

i need to make 18 rings 1" tall. how would i go about marking this pipe so the line is even all the way around? also how would you suggest cutting it.

mostly hand tools, i mite have access to a plasma cutter, not sure yet.

not looking for perfection but the more even and level the rings are the better.
 
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I usually take piece of 8.5x11 paper and wrap the pipe so the paper overlaps itself. As log as the edges of the paper line up, your line will be straight.

Obviously with a 10" diameter pipe you will need longer paper, but you can just tape several together as long as the edges all line up well.

Once you have the paper in place, some spray paint or a sharpie works well.

A hose clamp might also work well instead and you could probably use it as a guide for a plasma cutter.

You could also take it to a local machine shop, I would imagine they could probably cut it up pretty easily for you on a horizontal bandsaw, which would probably be a lot easier than a plasma cutter.
 
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This is a job for a bandsaw. It could be challenging to find a shop with a saw that big, but a machine shop of medium size should be able to handle this. A decent size roll in saw would be my weapon of choice.

I wouldn't attempt this with a plasma cutter unless you're ok with the rings being rough and not parallel.
 

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Wrap of Tape, same deal as the paper...
Saber Saw, Sawzall, or a Circular Saw with an Abrasive or metal cutting carbide blade, or
A 4.5" grinder with a cutting disk... I would also probably use the plasma... but I would fixture the torch on a holder of some sort, then rotate the pipe, using a pully and a crank...

hard to visualize from my description but it would make a smooth cut. My Plasma Table makes VERY nice cuts...
You could even use a piece of flat stock to make a "Straight Edge" ring then use that as a guide to cut your pieces...
 

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buy some kids roller skates at goodwill or a yard sale and attach them to your workbench. Mark the pipe as necessary. Roll the pipe under the plasma cutter torch clamped to a board sticking out of a vise or a jawhorse.
 

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IMO, the only way to get a reasonably straight and square cut without a saw is with a grinder.

Take a pipe wrap or long piece of thin cardboard or the like and draw a line around it. Take a 6" thin wheel on a grinder and work your way around.

A plasma cutter is faster on the cut, but very hard to cut straight without guides or a rotator. There will also be taper and dross to deal with.

7 bucks a cut isn't too bad, but I'd shop around. I'd still rather pay 7 bucks than do it with a plasma.
 

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6" Meetabo and a box of blades and a dust mask. Few flap wheels to clean them up or a belt sander.

Any 'V' shaped trough you can fashion up to roll the thing over in and keep stationary would be help full without a doubt. I know this is what we do when we are working with material that wont fit in the chop saws. (like the 6x18x.25 box tube the other week, in 40' lengths....)
 

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Do you need it a 1/4'' thick ? Might be cheaper to roll them or have it done.
Post your location , maybe a member could help.
 

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If you go with the cutting disc(Speedy Cut) please hold the grinder so the sparks will be coming at you. A speedy cut disc is notorious for hanging or catching and will jump out of the groove. If the sparks are going away from you the grinder will be coming your way when it jumps. Those speedy cuts are great but very dangerous. I know from personal experience.
 

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I had to do something similar for a guy a few years back. He wanted rings sliced from a old oxygen cylinder, why IDK. I used a piece of angle to make a straight down the cylinder about 6x around. Then made a small V rolling jig for the cutting torch that used 4 ball bearings as rollers and held the torch in place. I was a little wasteful on the cut as he couldn't have a rounded pierce so I lit the torch, slid the pipe up to start cutting length wise and then against a hard stop (depth stop) and started rotating. It worked really well. More accurate than my bandsaw would cut.

You could do the same with a plasma. Just use a hard stop, and once you get that set at the correct height each one will turn out the same. Realize your 1st one will probably be scrap as you get a feel for the feed of rotating the pipe.

BTW, the lines were to make sure the cut was going parallel to the faces.

Edit, I'll add, if you want absolute precision, find someone with a large enough lathe that can part them off for you. Although unless you know someone that could get expensive. Rolling 1/4 into that tight of a diameter without a capable machine is going to be comical for anyone watching.

Edit #2 I'm all for the 4.5" versatility, but there is no way in hell I would be attempting to do this with a 4.5" grinder and cutoff wheels. Not at 1/4" wall. Each cut would probably be a few bucks of abrasive disks alone. We're talking 31" of linear cut each time total of ~550"
 
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If you brought it to my shop you would drop off and come back in an hour. I would load the rings and hand you a bill for $80 and take $60 cash.
 

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Let's break this down. You need to cut the equivalent of 47 linear feet of 1/4" plate!!! Cutting this with a cutoff wheel, jigsaw, or similar will bring the ****! Setting up a fixture and cutting with a plasma would be far superior, but I bet you will spend hours just on setup. Either way, if you try to do this by hand, I bet you will be spending the better part of a day and a decent chunk of change on materials/consumables.

I would definitely try to find someone with a giant bandsaw or a welder/pipe fitter with one of those pipe cutting track jobbers for a torch/plasma.

What are you planning to use these rings for?
 
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I'm with Mclean. There's no way you will get good results with hand tools while keeping your sanity. This is an easy job for a shop with a lathe. 10" diameter is not that big. And $7 a cut sounds reasonable for my area (southeast PA).

Also, I would not use a bandsaw our portaband for this cut. It is difficult to get a square cut on larger cross-sections with them.
 
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Let's break this down. You need to cut the equivalent of 47 linear feet of 1/4" plate!!! Cutting this with a cutoff wheel, jigsaw, or similar will bring the ****! Setting up a fixture and cutting with a plasma would be far superior, but I bet you will spend hours just on setup. Either way, if you try to do this by hand, I bet you will be spending the better part of a day and a decent chunk of change on materials/consumables.

I would definitely try to find someone with a giant bandsaw or a welder/pipe fitter with one of those pipe cutting track jobbers for a torch/plasma.

What are you planning to use these rings for?

http://www.thegreenery.ca/gardening-tips/fun-projects/petunia-tree.html
 
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going to give the plasma cutter a try this weekend. the rough cuts should not to much of a problem, i'm a lousy welder so that means i have mad grinding skills. if it comes out to bad i'll have to pony up and pay the shop. thanks for the advice.

i have a short section of a roller conveyer, i'll have to see what i can rig up so the plasma gun is in a fixed position.
 
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Cool project, I would have just rolled flatbar for that though, Or Roundbar...
 

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Its easy with a plasma. What we do at the shop when we have large tubing (only from someone who was doing plant stuff). We just put it on a table against a wall. Had the end also pushed up against a wall (corner table) then one would hold the plasma cutter, using something to rest on so they dont wobble or move much, and the other person spins the tube. That easy.
 

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i have a short section of a roller conveyer, i'll have to see what i can rig up so the plasma gun is in a fixed position.

Yep, as a couple of others have said, if you can rig the pipe so it can be rotated under the torch you'd get a good cut with the plasma. Maybe mark out & finish one end with the grinder then clamp a backstop on your roller jig somehow so the good end of the pipe can be held back against it as you turn it to keep it located axially.

It will be lots easier if you can get a friend to turn the pipe while you drive the plasma, then you'd just need a rest for the torch rather than a clamp setup. I've done this for welding round stuff too & it works well - voice controlled rotator :D

Cheers
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Cool project, I would have just rolled flatbar for that though, Or Roundbar...[/QUOTE

Agree, buy some 3/16'' or 1/4'' round and a roller from harbor freight. You'll have a new toy and it will be much lighter then cutting 10 '' pipe. Plus you can roll any size diameter you want.
OR buy the round plain rod and bend it around the pipe and cut to desired diameter.
 

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[QUOTE(only from someone who was doing plant stuff)..[/QUOTE]

well the wife loves petunias and i love tulips . the goal is after she is done planting petunias in the tree, she will want to thank me by planting tulips this weekend. :bounce::bounce:
 

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well the wife loves petunias and i love tulips . the goal is after she is done planting petunias in the tree, she will want to thank me by planting tulips this weekend. :bounce::bounce:

That reminds me of a dirty joke my old man used to say:

"What's better than flowers on a piano? Tulips on an organ!"
 
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Ok. I hope you get it figured out. If you find a ship with a good band saw you will be all set.
The saws we have can easily do those cuts very accuratly, unlike what was posted above. The tolerances we get are within a few thousandths of an inch.
 

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well the wife loves petunias and i love tulips . the goal is after she is done planting petunias in the tree, she will want to thank me by planting tulips this weekend. :bounce::bounce:

That reminds me of a duty joke my old man used to say:

"What's better than flowers on a piano? Tulips on an organ!"[/QUOTE]

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::beer:
 

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I worked for a well driller once and was asked to cut 8" well casing with a torch. I had no experience with the cut-off tool that clamps around a pipe and holds the Acetylene torch. I was able to make some very nice cuts real quick.

Not sure if you have access to a well driller.
 

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Where are you located? Detroit?

What is the material?

How accurate must the cuts be? What's the margin of error?

How much extra material can you waste?

If it was me, I would either set it up on a lathe (If I had one big enough), or rough cut it on the horizontal bandsaw, then finish on a mill.
 

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Plasma is probably the best tool for this job. The only dimension that really matters much has already been taken care of by the people that produced the pipe. The ends of the cut will probably be obscured by the pots anwyay.

If you have some woodworking tools, what I'd do is get a piece of 1" thick plywood that's big enough to make a jig out of, then clamp that onto the pipe and use it as a guide. When your piece is cut, move it over another 1" and start over again.
 

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That would take a while. 1/4" wall?

:spit:

Now knowing what you are making, and having done it before. Unless you are building one to withstand a hurricane, you are making it way overbuilt than need be.
 
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