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[combat infidel]

My name is Matt I'm an army vet I live in West Virginia I'm getting ready to build a new house with an oversized 28x28 garage which is 4' wider but I'm wondering if I should go 6 or 8 feet wider

looking for layout ideas I will be reloading gun smithing and working with wood in my garage also I will have a basement underneath of the garage as well here are some of my current ideas:

I have no idea how I am going to heat and cool the basement part but I will be using a mini split for the garage

I will be plumbing in compressor connectors

2 220 outlets one on each side of the garage toward the garage doors.

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[HOTFR8]

Welcome to the GJ. You will without a doubt find many ideas here on the GJ.

 

[combat infidel]

Thanks HOTFR8 so far I have acquired some ideas


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[drivesitfar]

Combat: welcome to the forum and Garage Journal. asking if you should build a a garage bigger here is like walking into a candy store and asking if anything is for sale. if you can afford it and you can get a permit to build it bigger and above all your bride or significant other approves then i'd give you a big yes.

also learn to read a lot of threads where there is GOOD POSTS about what you are working on or wanting questions answered. if you don't find the answers in those threads there is the first place i'd ask the question. you won't find all the answers here, but we are for the most part a very friendly group and we'll try to help if we can.

grow a little tough skin though because we are on the internet and some of the members are not the best at saying what is needed to be said and some are just looking to make somebody else feel as bad as they do, but that doesn't happen often.

congrats on your being able to build your dream shop because at 60 i'm still waiting to build or buy mine.

cheers

 

[combat infidel]

Combat: welcome to the forum and Garage Journal. asking if you should build a a garage bigger here is like walking into a candy store and asking if anything is for sale. if you can afford it and you can get a permit to build it bigger and above all your bride or significant other approves then i'd give you a big yes.



also learn to read a lot of threads where there is GOOD POSTS about what you are working on or wanting questions answered. if you don't find the answers in those threads there is the first place i'd ask the question. you won't find all the answers here, but we are for the most part a very friendly group and we'll try to help if we can.



grow a little tough skin though because we are on the internet and some of the members are not the best at saying what is needed to be said and some are just looking to make somebody else feel as bad as they do, but that doesn't happen often.



congrats on your being able to build your dream shop because at 60 i'm still waiting to build or buy mine.



cheers

To be more specific I realize I was a bit vague and asking a loaded question it took a lot to convince my wife we needed a basement below the garage what I was wonder and looking for input on is this if I extend my garage from 24' wide to 28' wide would that be wide enough for tools and such along the side and still be able to work on a vehicle or should I go 6' or 8' wider


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[drivesitfar]

Combat: pictures would do wonders to give me (us) a visual or drawings if you have any. i bet you can answer these questions the best though if you just cut take a piece of paper and make it say 1/4 inch per foot scale if you don't have one of those architect type rulers my bride uses. then make cut outs for your tool boxes, cars, work benches and stuff to see how you think it looks for ease of use. some lifts need 12.2 foot tall ceilings to get to full height so if you were planning on building put a height in that accommodates what you will need. so many members have built 12 foot tall ceilings and ended up cutting their trusses for the couple inches when a couple 2x4's on the rim would have fixed the issue before the trusses went on.

yes the more information the better and without saying again build it as big as you can afford maybe you can answer a few other questions. are you trying to park 2 cars in the garage year round every day? are you trying to work on one car while the other one is in the other side of the garage? are you planning on installing a full size or any size lift? see where i'm going?

if you can get it permitted and afford the extra square footage i'd go past the minimum as much as you can because it's amazing how fast the space can fill up and the big thing is the size of your cars or your needs and stuff changes.

good luck and don't feel bad around here about asking questions. if you get a smart *** remark from a member just call it mini hazing i guess which wouldn't be what i'd do, but some people's kids think it's fun.

here's two threads i'd highly recommend reading just because both of these members are positive and take on a project and finish it no matter what the obstacles are. there are also plenty of nice garage threads and i've seen some garages built the size you are thinking in 3 days roofed with cement floors and other guys take a year or two depending on the permit process and style of the build.

Denwood's small 100+ year old garage he transformed and here's the link:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263351

1/2 Cup's Shed Downunder is covers a lot, but not any real building other than the coolest carport you'd ever want to own.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225061

 

[combat infidel]

Combat: pictures would do wonders to give me (us) a visual or drawings if you have any. i bet you can answer these questions the best though if you just cut take a piece of paper and make it say 1/4 inch per foot scale if you don't have one of those architect type rulers my bride uses. then make cut outs for your tool boxes, cars, work benches and stuff to see how you think it looks for ease of use. some lifts need 12.2 foot tall ceilings to get to full height so if you were planning on building put a height in that accommodates what you will need. so many members have built 12 foot tall ceilings and ended up cutting their trusses for the couple inches when a couple 2x4's on the rim would have fixed the issue before the trusses went on.

yes the more information the better and without saying again build it as big as you can afford maybe you can answer a few other questions. are you trying to park 2 cars in the garage year round every day? are you trying to work on one car while the other one is in the other side of the garage? are you planning on installing a full size or any size lift? see where i'm going?

if you can get it permitted and afford the extra square footage i'd go past the minimum as much as you can because it's amazing how fast the space can fill up and the big thing is the size of your cars or your needs and stuff changes.

good luck and don't feel bad around here about asking questions. if you get a smart *** remark from a member just call it mini hazing i guess which wouldn't be what i'd do, but some people's kids think it's fun.

here's two threads i'd highly recommend reading just because both of these members are positive and take on a project and finish it no matter what the obstacles are. there are also plenty of nice garage threads and i've seen some garages built the size you are thinking in 3 days roofed with cement floors and other guys take a year or two depending on the permit process and style of the build.

Denwood's small 100+ year old garage he transformed and here's the link:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263351

1/2 Cup's Shed Downunder is covers a lot, but not any real building other than the coolest carport you'd ever want to own.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225061

Thank you for the info and the advice I'm working on some renderings


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[Outlander]

.....and I believe a 'thank you for your service' is in order

Welcome!

 

[combat infidel]

.....and I believe a 'thank you for your service' is in order

Welcome!

It was an honor and a pleasure


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[combat infidel]

I'm working on getting renderings with chief architect I will probably start a new post


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[combat infidel]

Combat: pictures would do wonders to give me (us) a visual or drawings if you have any. i bet you can answer these questions the best though if you just cut take a piece of paper and make it say 1/4 inch per foot scale if you don't have one of those architect type rulers my bride uses. then make cut outs for your tool boxes, cars, work benches and stuff to see how you think it looks for ease of use. some lifts need 12.2 foot tall ceilings to get to full height so if you were planning on building put a height in that accommodates what you will need. so many members have built 12 foot tall ceilings and ended up cutting their trusses for the couple inches when a couple 2x4's on the rim would have fixed the issue before the trusses went on.

yes the more information the better and without saying again build it as big as you can afford maybe you can answer a few other questions. are you trying to park 2 cars in the garage year round every day? are you trying to work on one car while the other one is in the other side of the garage? are you planning on installing a full size or any size lift? see where i'm going?

if you can get it permitted and afford the extra square footage i'd go past the minimum as much as you can because it's amazing how fast the space can fill up and the big thing is the size of your cars or your needs and stuff changes.

good luck and don't feel bad around here about asking questions. if you get a smart *** remark from a member just call it mini hazing i guess which wouldn't be what i'd do, but some people's kids think it's fun.

here's two threads i'd highly recommend reading just because both of these members are positive and take on a project and finish it no matter what the obstacles are. there are also plenty of nice garage threads and i've seen some garages built the size you are thinking in 3 days roofed with cement floors and other guys take a year or two depending on the permit process and style of the build.

Denwood's small 100+ year old garage he transformed and here's the link:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263351

1/2 Cup's Shed Downunder is covers a lot, but not any real building other than the coolest carport you'd ever want to own.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225061

So here is a photo of the blueprints it calls for a 24' wide by 28' deep garage however I'm leaning towards 32' wide as I frequently have projects going in the garage (reloading) and want to be sure I have enough room as soon as I can become proficient I will have another version showing new measurements and the door on the back will move to rear left side stairs to the same size basement under the pad on the back wall under the stairs going to above the garage

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[drivesitfar]

Combat: is the second floor the same square footage as the basement? are you planning on using it for living space or just storage or do tell? since you sound like you are really not wanting to build a bigger garage can you either put the stairway outside and maybe make it 4 foot wide and covered. or do your RELOADING upstairs so you won't need to take up space in the main garage area?

the more information you give us the more we can help you, but honestly not a lot of members even check out the new members section so if you can get on threads that are talking about the benefits and disadvantages of certain size shops and ask questions there if you don't find the answer you might get a few more opinions.

good luck

 

[Cypherian]

My name is Matt I'm an army vet I live in West Virginia I'm getting ready to build a new house with an oversized 28x28 garage which is 4' wider but I'm wondering if I should go 6 or 8 feet wider

looking for layout ideas I will be reloading gun smithing and working with wood in my garage also I will have a basement underneath of the garage as well here are some of my current ideas:

I have no idea how I am going to heat and cool the basement part but I will be using a mini split for the garage

I will be plumbing in compressor connectors

2 220 outlets one on each side of the garage toward the garage doors.

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Welcome,

Even though you are a ..ground pounder :}

"I have more then enough room in my (Garage, Shop, Storage Bldg, Barn Etc) " said by .. No One Ever kind of like having more ammo then you need in a gun fight.:} lol

That said go as big as you can comfortably afford, if you hang around here you will need the space.

Cypher

 

[bczygan]

Welcome to GJ.

As to garage size, you will have a hard time finding a post on GJ, where the suggestion was to make the garage smaller.

OTOH, it should relate to the site and the rest of the structure in ways that make it the right size and layout.

Think of all the functions it will accommodate. Arrange those functions so they relate to each other with a circle diagram and then wrap them with structure.

Bill

 

[combat infidel]

Combat: is the second floor the same square footage as the basement? are you planning on using it for living space or just storage or do tell? since you sound like you are really not wanting to build a bigger garage can you either put the stairway outside and maybe make it 4 foot wide and covered. or do your RELOADING upstairs so you won't need to take up space in the main garage area?



the more information you give us the more we can help you, but honestly not a lot of members even check out the new members section so if you can get on threads that are talking about the benefits and disadvantages of certain size shops and ask questions there if you don't find the answer you might get a few more opinions.



good luck

Sorry about that I thought I mentioned that the basement part will be the same size I'm thinking about building a wall along the left side giving me a room about 6x32 with a hidden door I would like to do my reloading in the garage because I will be able to control the climate and I currently reload in the garage and do not have an issue with my stuff being in the way I have a single stage press so reloading doesn't take up a ton of bench space the basement will be for gunsmithing and sale of firearms very secure I also have 4 girls and will need a place for water boarding in the near future


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[combat infidel]

Welcome,



Even though you are a ..ground pounder :}



"I have more then enough room in my (Garage, Shop, Storage Bldg, Barn Etc) " said by .. No One Ever kind of like having more ammo then you need in a gun fight.:} lol



That said go as big as you can comfortably afford, if you hang around here you will need the space.



Cypher

SCOUTS OUT!!



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[Cypherian]

LoL,

Well as a retired Air Force or Wing Nut, Zoomie etc etc etc though the only chair I sat in was much much later in my career lol. Other then that way to many hours hauling a tool box on the flight line fixing the metal and fiberglass parts of Air Craft that were older then I was lol RF -4C's is where I started.

With that said perhaps a mini split for the up stairs part of the garage and since your going to use it for reloading , as a father of 2 girls now 25 and 22 use the basement under the garage for water boarding less noise escapes .. so I have been told .

Heating and cooling the garage basement have your HVAC guys size the unit for running a duct to it and make sure they add a dehumidifier for the basement.

As an over all suggestion see if you can affordably design for power out being out , weather issues etc , cost efficiency IE generator hook up to panel , gas for heating ,cooking , water heater etc . LED lighting and so on. If I build another home it will be it is costly to go back and do it later.

Cypher

 

[combat infidel]

LoL,



Well as a retired Air Force or Wing Nut, Zoomie etc etc etc though the only chair I sat in was much much later in my career lol. Other then that way to many hours hauling a tool box on the flight line fixing the metal and fiberglass parts of Air Craft that were older then I was lol RF -4C's is where I started.



With that said perhaps a mini split for the up stairs part of the garage and since your going to use it for reloading , as a father of 2 girls now 25 and 22 use the basement under the garage for water boarding less noise escapes .. so I have been told .



Heating and cooling the garage basement have your HVAC guys size the unit for running a duct to it and make sure they add a dehumidifier for the basement.



As an over all suggestion see if you can affordably design for power out being out , weather issues etc , cost efficiency IE generator hook up to panel , gas for heating ,cooking , water heater etc . LED lighting and so on. If I build another home it will be it is costly to go back and do it later.



Cypher

Yes I intend to run a duct to the basement and will probably do a 32k diy mini split in the garage


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