Ton ton
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Is everyone ok with that?
I bought a black phosphate wrench today.
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Packard V8
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Only been using the Snap-on Industrial Black finish for forty-five years now, so too early to comment on how they'll stand up.
Interestingly, the metric combination set I bought 10-15 years ago has a very different finish and feel than those inch wrenches and sockets which came off the Trans-Alaska Pipeline project 45 years ago.
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Interestingly, the metric combination set I bought 10-15 years ago has a very different finish and feel than those inch wrenches and sockets which came off the Trans-Alaska Pipeline project 45 years ago.
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dalepres
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No, I 'm not ok with that. What the hell were you thinking? Unless, of course, you were planning on gifting it to me.
I saw on a couple online tool sites very recently SK or other US made combination wrenches in black phosphate at about 1/2 of the price for the same tool in polished chrome. I care far more about the quality of the steel than I do about how pretty it is.
I don't see pictures, though, so you'll need to post pictures.
Negen
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Anything is a tool (toy?) if your brave enough.
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I think the OP is making fun of the thread where everyone is getting butthurt about which tool finish they think is better.
Fedwrench
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as long as it was a 10 mm just to see how long it takes before disappearing 
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woody 73
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Holy mother of batman...What no ******** chrome jokes today
txvwnut
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Dads got a set a little older than yours and they’re still hangin’ there. Although the 3/8” is newer as he bent the original over double with a cheater. S/O dealer warrantied it with qualms, he actually insisted on it as dad was just gonna buy a new wrench.
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And after the black is beat-up and the tool starts to rust, soak it in vinegar, scrub it and oil it down. Now it's shiny.
Renegade1LI
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I have a fitter who is a little OCD, just bought him a bunch of SK black adjustables, real nice tools, he had a stroke when I used one to tap something into place? I said thats why I buy the black ones so you don't chip the chrome, he was in shock!
redwrench60
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I use my Klein spuds quite often. If I’m grabbing a pair of adjustables to do about anything I make one of them a spud. They’re great for prying, wedging and of course lining up holes between bolted members on structures or large equipment. My old and new Klein spuds are still USA made.
Leaflessshadetree
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I've worked with lots of guys that use them (borrowed tools) like that. Color or condition doesn't appear to matter when it is someone elses tool.
I abuse my own proerty but I don't feel right about mis-using someone elses.
I'm not sure to be perfectly honest. I find chrome to get slippery on my hand in wet conditions. You don't really have to worry about chrome flaking off or your tool getting scratched. I just prefer an industrial type finish versus chrome. I know I'm outnumbered by the chrome lovers on garage journal.
Renegade1LI
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I did buy them & would replace them if I messed them up, he's just over the top OCD. I would never abuse someones personal tools, some lines you just don't cross, lol.
LucienShao
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Black phophated is sunk phophated, if budget is allowed i will choose chrome finish as chrome is better at finish thickness and durability.
Busted_Knuckles
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Ive been dealing in OE tools for about 15yrs now, most of which are some kind of black oxide or phosphate, Id guess. There has to be an infinite number of formulations for blackening used on these tools.. even within a " set " of tools or a " tool kit ", you can see that several tools where finished by different vendors, or to different specs. Id also guess the alloys look differently on the tools I deal with, as in one set, may have different kinds of steel for different kinds of tools and Im assuming they would not take the oxide process the same.
All I really know, if they are not oiled or in use, they are gonna rust sooner or later !
Busted_Knuckles
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sorry accidental double post via an edit ?
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oldschoolcraft
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seber
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I had to get rid of all my black phosphate when I moved to East Texas. The humidity here is always well above 80% and they were rusting faster than I could oil them. It's bad enough that the concrete garage floor sweats for several weeks every spring. One good thing is that I have learned what rustproofing strategies work and which ones don't. And before you ask, WD40 is one that does not. It is fine for temporary but not long lasting.
LopezBart
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The black phosphate tools won't flake hard chrome bits into your hydraulic systems, either. One does need to keep them oily; way oil or chain saw bar oil helps.
rsanter
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I don’t feel impacted in any way for the money you spent
Joemctag
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If you’re serious, you must have an adjustable spud wrench. I hate crescents anyway and wouldn’t carry one of those around. Good for oxy and acetylene gauges, though.
oldschoolcraft
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I was looking at black phosphate Proto combination wrenches this week. Almost ordered one to add into an existing 20% off Zoro order I had going.
This might sound stupid but my use case was to put together a set of tools for international travel that wasn't shiny and would draw less attention from locals who might want to rob me for my tools. That's also why I was asking in another thread about purposely patina'ing pliers. I have 25+ year old Craftsman Linesman pliers that is a deep brown patina that never rusts more than this patina. I'd be curious to purposely do that to a few knipex pliers and pair them up with some black oxide Proto wrenches and have a high quality low profile non-shiny tool set.
Set of 3/8" drive impact black phosphate sockets, 10mm to 19mm combination wrenches black oxide, 5 pairs of pliers that have the rust patina, a small prybar and a screwdriver bit set. Nothing shiny. Nothing bright. All very high quality but from a distance, nothing anyone would want to steal.
This might sound stupid but my use case was to put together a set of tools for international travel that wasn't shiny and would draw less attention from locals who might want to rob me for my tools. That's also why I was asking in another thread about purposely patina'ing pliers. I have 25+ year old Craftsman Linesman pliers that is a deep brown patina that never rusts more than this patina. I'd be curious to purposely do that to a few knipex pliers and pair them up with some black oxide Proto wrenches and have a high quality low profile non-shiny tool set.
Set of 3/8" drive impact black phosphate sockets, 10mm to 19mm combination wrenches black oxide, 5 pairs of pliers that have the rust patina, a small prybar and a screwdriver bit set. Nothing shiny. Nothing bright. All very high quality but from a distance, nothing anyone would want to steal.
Southernbuild
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I've got a few Proto black ox clickstop adjustable, and a couple of adjustable spud wrenches. More prone to rusting for sure, but I've bought some super cheap used because of the rust, so it all balances out. Probably safer than chrome for a sped wrench anyways.
I like them, but am glad most of my mechanic tools are shinny Chrome!!
I like them, but am glad most of my mechanic tools are shinny Chrome!!
slowtwitch73
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I'm just psyched to see a post from the mysterious TonTon.
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oldschoolcraft
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He's been busy babysitting his new grandson, OunceOunce that was born recently.