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Sal Bandini

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The supercombos are $150 shipped for a 10-19mm set. Same as the 600N shipped from Germany, but I think you get 21, and 22mm??

600N are Hazets "long pattern" wrenches. They are shorter than Snap On's std length but not by much as you stated. Snap On's long pattern 17mm is 298mm. Thats a couple inches longer, which does make a difference. But the SOEXLM are $$$$$$.

I think I'm convinced there are many good wrenches out there for $100-200

The bonus to the Hazet deal is that if you shop smart you can add something like this and only raise the shipping by a few dollars.

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B006KRKD3G/
 
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Sal Bandini

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The supercombos are $150 shipped for a 10-19mm set. Same as the 600N shipped from Germany, but I think you get 21, and 22mm??

600N are Hazets "long pattern" wrenches. They are shorter than Snap On's std length but not by much as you stated. Snap On's long pattern 17mm is 298mm. Thats a couple inches longer, which does make a difference. But the SOEXLM are $$$$$$.

I think I'm convinced there are many good wrenches out there for $100-200

Yes compared to Snap-On long pattern they are much shorter. If you really need or want long pattern than they are not an option.
 

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The supercombos are $150 shipped for a 10-19mm set. Same as the 600N shipped from Germany, but I think you get 21, and 22mm??

600N are Hazets "long pattern" wrenches. They are shorter than Snap On's std length but not by much as you stated. Snap On's long pattern 17mm is 298mm. Thats a couple inches longer, which does make a difference. But the SOEXLM are $$$$$$.

I think I'm convinced there are many good wrenches out there for $100-200

try 103$ + shipping... shipping isn't 47$ maybe 7 to 10
 

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There's a lot of back and forth here, but my advice to OP is just get one of the Gearwrench sets on sale. If you're not using them daily for a living, these things are practically unbreakable. Im not a pro either, but Ive had various types of GW ratcheting wrenches and abused the hell out of many of them with no problems whatsoever.
 

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I got gw xl double box wrenches with one end ratcheting, williams stubby sets and canadian made can pro in regular combination along with a few snap ons. No issues with any of them. I find the stubby ones are only reached for when i an desperate. I reach for the xl almost as much as regular combos.
 

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I have the GW ratcheting set pictured earlier. I like them, they work fine for me.
I'm also fond of my Proto no slip wrench set, but they do have an offset.
 
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There's a lot of back and forth here, but my advice to OP is just get one of the Gearwrench sets on sale. If you're not using them daily for a living, these things are practically unbreakable. Im not a pro either, but Ive had various types of GW ratcheting wrenches and abused the hell out of many of them with no problems whatsoever.
Thanks.

I'm getting a lot of mixed responses but all of them have been helpful.

I've lost a couple of auctions since I posted this thread last night. I'm pretty amazed at the resale value of SK wrenches. 2 of the auctions I lost ended up being priced only $20 less than new plus shipping.

My local pawn shop has a MATCO 8-19mm non-reversible ratcheting set for $85, and the GW non-reversible ratcheting wrenches for $40. But they didn't have any long-pattern wrenches.

The patient wait continues.
 

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Snap-on. I'm going to stir things up with this comment and your price range but it's very doable. All you have to do is browse classfieds 5+ times a day and you WILL get a killer deal eventually. You need to learn how to spot those wrenches in a crappy pic or a pile of junk but it's very doable. You won't be disappointed in the long run.
 

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The Toptul would be a decent set set for the money.

Just about any of the brands mentioned are very good. If you wait long enough, you'll find a deal on just about any brand on ebay. A lot is going to boil down to preference and what you can afford. A good set will be of you're best investments.

I have a number of different brand wrenches I use at work from Snap-on to Gearwrench. I really like the Williams supercombo's. My main sets are Matco, really like them as well. The only wrench I dont like is the Mac 5/8 combo I have.

Ease of warranty can be a factor to consider, but other then some Craftsman RP wrenches when I was still using them, the only wrench I've broken in recent history was a Bonney made Matco (jaw snapped off).
 

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Listen, if I didn't already have ratchet wrenches, I'd buy these. You can buy them online and go pick them up at the store same day, or have them shipped to you. $50 is a deal for 20 wrenches, brand new. Then you can spend the other $50 in your budget on a used set of double box end wrenches. Pull the trigger on these before you miss the boat. http://www.sears.com/gearwrench-20p...sellerId=SEARS&prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7
 
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Your request is unreasonable. You can't upgrade from what you have for a hundred bucks, unless you scour used and pounce on an incredible deal. None of us can really help you with that.
 
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a "long" combo wrench (think standard Snap On, Proto etc) will be used far more frequently than a long box end. Those long box wrenches are cumbersome in many circumstances. Since you're considering $150 on a set of 8-19mm gear wrenches, I'd like to point out that you can easily find 8-19mm or 10-19mm sets of Snap On OEXM series on ebay. New logo, no engravings for 140-160.

High quality open ends are what make or break a combo wrench.
 

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I am currently trying to upgrade my hand tools to stuff that isn't junk. I am not a professional mechanic, but I average about $800 a month in side work working on customers cars.

I currently have a CM-RP set from 8 to 25 with Pittsburg RP replacing the wrenches I have lost for metric and some Stanley SAEs.

I am only comfortable investing $100 in a set of wrenches. (Give or take, obviously)

That might seem cheap to some on here, but the reality is that my CM-RPs will last me my lifetime, and I have a lot of tools I need to buy with this tax return. My only complaint with them is that they are heavy, hurt my hands and don't have enough leverage. I am tired of piggy-backing wrenches for leverage.

So I was smitten on a set of GearWrench 81900 wrenches.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NICG9M/?tag=atomicindus08-20

But I am not sure if I should buy ratcheting wrenches instead. I have never had ratcheting wrenches. Part of me thinks that it's more important to have a solid set of combination wrenches before investing in ratcheting wrenches.

But here are some of the alternatives I have been looking at:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DDO1DPG/?tag=atomicindus08-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000T8WFBU/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I've overthinked this to the point that I am stuck.



Don't know if someone else has advised you of this (didn't read through the entire thread), but based on your stated criteria, I'd give Dennis Schmidt a ring (DNSchmidt on GJ) and order up a set of his long pattern Toptul combos. Good wrenches!!!
 

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Don't know if someone else has advised you of this (didn't read through the entire thread), but based on your stated criteria, I'd give Dennis Schmidt a ring (DNSchmidt on GJ) and order up a set of his long pattern Toptul combos. Good wrenches!!!

As far I know there is no warranty on them from him, so if that is an issue keep that in mind. I think they are great tools buy the way.
 

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Not sure if this problem has been solved, but today after I got out of work I installed some new hydraulic lines and did some other bs on an IH tractor I have. I have a set (2 actually) of Blackhawk by Proto wrenches with a few other brands mixed in that I keep for on the road jobs. SK, Thorsen, Craftsman USA, Westward, Billings, Proto, and Blackhawk all make up the set.

My point is, they all work the exact same way. Buy what you can afford to buy.
 

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Working on metric vehicles, I reach for my 3/8" sockets or my GW flex head ratcheting combos. Since I bought them my RP CM and Snapon combo wrenches stay in the box 90% of the time.
 

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Stahlwille OpenBox 14s.

If i were starting over that's what i'd buy. My most-used are German Elora 205s and they're great, but Stahlwille are the best for me.

^^^

I've got Snap On wrenches. But the Stahlwille wrenches are nice gear too. Instead of the high polish finish, they've got a nice 'blasted' finish. Reminds me of the finish on the original 'made-in-Australia' Sidchrome wrenches, before they went high polish when they moved offshore to Taiwan.
 

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6-32 no-skips sets are pointless if you never use the 7, 9, or 11 realistically.

The ergonomics of CraftsmanRP are horrible. Replace the sizes you use daily with Facom 440 or Snap-On. For me, I wouldn't regret buying new in 10, 13, 15; I know I would use them for another 40 years. The rest, I can deal using my CraftsmanSnaponBlackHawkKobaltIndiaTaiwanMixOfHappiness indefinitely. Maybe look at the Williams.

Throw your secondary wrenches in a trunk kit and don't look back. You're clearing enough that a little investment in tools is worthwhile. If you can work faster with less fumbling, it's worth it.
 
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