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A little explanation might be in order vs. just slamming the work as amateur. Help us understand a better way for next time.

they're too small. The common shallow size is so small it's over filled if it's anything but a a dead end with a device on it. Even 6 14 awg wires and two wire nuts (what's probably in these) is overfilled. there are deeper ones (and I can't tell what's been used here), but they're still small for lots of uses. The smallest readily available 4" square boxes are much bigger, easier to work with, but they cost 50 cents more...
 

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they're too small. The common shallow size is so small it's over filled if it's anything but a a dead end with a device on it. Even 6 14 awg wires and two wire nuts (what's probably in these) is overfilled. there are deeper ones (and I can't tell what's been used here), but they're still small for lots of uses. The smallest readily available 4" square boxes are much bigger, easier to work with, but they cost 50 cents more...
Maybe he used scotchlocks! 🤣
 

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One of the reasons I like the old fluorescent fixtures with 'tombstones'. The fixture itself is the wiring trough. Update to LED tubes as you see fit.
 

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Typical DIY job when you see the use of handy boxes. There is almost never a good reason to use them.

I'm more concerned that it looks like lamp wire may be cut and joined inside the box then the fact that the boxes were used.
 
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Typical DIY job when you see the use of handy boxes. There is almost never a good reason to use them.
You're correct, it is DIY. The reason for the handy boxes is because in my trade, we dispose of gondolas filled with extra material. I happen to have a **** ton of certain stuff, and decided to use it. Yes, they are the deep version.
 
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One of the reasons I like the old fluorescent fixtures with 'tombstones'. The fixture itself is the wiring trough. Update to LED tubes as you see fit.
These were recommended by a friend that read satisfactory reviews. After hanging the first, I was really nervous. I didn't think they would be bright enough. I originally wanted to do two per beam. But then I ordered 8' lights, and then decided to use the 8' on the sides. I had so many 4', I decided to put 3 per beam, and I like it. They were inexpensive, but this is a kind of temporary shop until my 50x100 is built.
 
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I'm more concerned that it looks like lamp wire may be cut and joined inside the box then the fact that the boxes were used.
No lamp wire. I used the wires with plugs, that were included with the lights. Those were Wago lever nutted to the THHN stranded ran throughout.
 
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A little explanation might be in order vs. just slamming the work as amateur. Help us understand a better way for next time.
Everyone is an expert on the internet! Heck, I'm youtube a certified, car mechanic, heavy equipment mechanic, weldor, electrician, carpenter, chef, political analyst, and many more.
 
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As a peace offering and showing no hard feelings, ship all extra handy boxes to NorCal.
:ROFLMAO: If you look on the shop press, there are a bunch of 6' 3/4 flex whips. I have over 100 of those. I was considering using them to connect two lights per crossmember, but then decided to just use a third light in the middle. I'm glad I did.
Anyone need some really nice 3/4 rope? I think I'm down to just 3 or 4 thousand feet of it! I'm a hoarder when it comes to throwing out good shtuff. If I had a warehouse, I could have filled it with the **** we toss.
 

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No lamp wire. I used the wires with plugs, that were included with the lights. Those were Wago lever nutted to the THHN stranded ran throughout.

So you cut the factory plug off, passed the wire into the handy box somehow (grommet? Clamp?) and used a wago to splice to the thhn?
 
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So you cut the factory plug off, passed the wire into the handy box somehow (grommet? Clamp?) and used a wago to splice to the thhn?
No.

The lights come with three wire options per. A double light connector to run multiple lights in line, which I used to connect the lights together on each crossmember. A cord with a switch and a 115V plug. Or a pigtail that plugs into the light and you can splice to your line wires. I used a chase ****** with a bushing on the inside to pass the pigtail through. Didn't need any kind of clamp or strain, there really is no tension on the pigtail being so close to the evil handy box. 😁
 
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