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bsaint

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I had my wrench set up there as well as here. Free shipping. Ships to USA ONLY. Some cockbag from Australia buys it THEN asks if I can ship to Australia. So Im like damn ok 65 dollars shipping because not only do I have to make a special trip to the post office, I have to do customs paperwork too. I invoice him twice. No payment. I contact him twice. No reply. So now I have to send him a request to cancel the transaction and hopefully he at least does that. What a retard. People are out there to screw with other people who are just trying to get stuff done.

I wish you could have an option forcing only to sell to people in North America.
 
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I had my wrench set up there as well as here. Free shipping. Ships to USA ONLY. Some cockbag from Australia buys it THEN asks if I can ship to Australia. So Im like damn ok 65 dollars shipping because not only do I have to make a special trip to the post office, I have to do customs paperwork too. I invoice him twice. No payment. I contact him twice. No reply. So now I have to send him a request to cancel the transaction and hopefully he at least does that. What a retard. People are out there to screw with other people who are just trying to get stuff done.

I wish you could have an option forcing only to sell to people in North America.

You should report what happened to Ebay. I would not sell to this guy.
 

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I wish you could have an option forcing only to sell to people in North America.


You should have simply checked the box that block's bidders from countries you don't ship to.
 

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Why not sell worldwide? The forms are real easy, if the buyer wants to pay shipping, let him. The whole appeal of ebay is reaching a worldwide audience to bid on my stuff.
 

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yup, plus the post office will pick it up from your house free of charge. Sometimes it feels like I ship more items to eastern europe and australia than I do the US.
 

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Why not sell internationally? Because it's a PITA high shipping costs that the buyer mostly balks at, or the package gets lost or damaged in shipment (a lot more often than CONUS shipping), or problems incurred with export rules/taxes/tariffs/misc. fees. I shipped internationally for several years and had more than my fair share of **** I had to deal with. It wasn't worth it. Foreign buyers - go buy foreign stuff. Since most of my stuff is USA made military equipment, I'll be happy for it to stay here.
 

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I like to ship with flat rate boxes. I sell only to USA. I have sold to people from Canada on here. Takes a few minutes extra but no real problems. I just like to keep things simple.
 

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What the biggest kicker in international transactions on ebay is that they charge ebay SHIPPING fees on top of the auction fees. I found this out the hard way, as I recently sold a set of Cragar wheels and tires on ebay for $250 but the buyer was from South America and wanted me to ship them to Florida, where he has a company that he picks it up from. Shipping of everything was a bit over $200, which I invoiced to him on ebay. I think Ebay charged me $18 just in shipping fees and $25 in final value fees.
 

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Why not sell worldwide? The forms are real easy, if the buyer wants to pay shipping, let him. The whole appeal of ebay is reaching a worldwide audience to bid on my stuff.

There is no seller protection for selling across borders. No tracking is available, which is what ebay uses. They buyer can claim it never arrived, and the seller is screwed. Ask me how I know.
 

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Ebay has been charging shipping fees for sometime now. Too many were selling **** for $.50 cents and charging a ridculous amount in shipping to avoid the final value fee. I have all my boxes boxes checked and only ship vises to the 48 states. I did have a guy in Pakistan buy a vise and then ask what shipping would be. I relisted the item and Ebay credited my account the FVF.
 

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I hate ebay. Too many assh*les. Seems like everybody just wants to lowball, even on stuff that is priced very well. Etsy has been good to me, though.
 
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I agree with the negatives of international selling. There are plenty of american people who will buy my stuff that are a lot easier and better communication to get it to them. I feel responsible for the item until its in their hands.
 

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There is no seller protection for selling across borders. No tracking is available, which is what ebay uses. They buyer can claim it never arrived, and the seller is screwed. Ask me how I know.

^^Untrue. There's plenty of international shipping options that provide DC.
 
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Yea but he is saying via ebay. Or even the post office. UPS or DHL does but its 136 dollars with my discount to ship international saver to australia and the wrenches were only 120.
 

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Ebay/Paypal has become way too greedy with their fees. I only sell on Ebay if the item doesn't sell locally on Craigslist. With CL I don't have to bother with boxing, standing in line at the post office, inaccurate shipping calculations, lost/damaged packages, buyer disputes, etc.
 

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What the biggest kicker in international transactions on ebay is that they charge ebay SHIPPING fees on top of the auction fees. I found this out the hard way, as I recently sold a set of Cragar wheels and tires on ebay for $250 but the buyer was from South America and wanted me to ship them to Florida, where he has a company that he picks it up from. Shipping of everything was a bit over $200, which I invoiced to him on ebay. I think Ebay charged me $18 just in shipping fees and $25 in final value fees.

Thank all the sellers that were selling items for $1 with $400 shipping, to skirt final value fees. And to place blame evenly, also ebay for being greedy.

I practically refuse to sell there anymore, especially since their last round of "screw the sellers" TOS changes. You're pretty much hamstrung if the buyer wants to completely screw you, especially when they own Paypal too, there's basically no way to prove to their satisfaction that the buyer is screwing you and not the other way around. And their fees have gotten redamndiculous as well, plus another 3% for Paypal. :willy_nil
 
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You can set up your auctions so people in countries you don't ship to can't bid on you auctions. In the future, that's what you should do if you don't want to ship internationally.
 
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I hate ebay. Too many assh*les. Seems like everybody just wants to lowball, even on stuff that is priced very well. Etsy has been good to me, though.

People can't lowball on eBay, unless you do that make an offer deal. Do you mean Craigslist? If so, I would tend to agree with the lowballing.
 

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If it say's US only shipping the bidders should have enough respect to ask if you will ship International before they bid on an item. I sell on Ebay and I don't offer International shipping because Ebay wont let me list a lot of items I list outside the US.If they ask I usually will anyway. Plus in this case,being that you will most likely get stiffed,you wont be able to leave negative feedback to a bad buyer. You lost twice there. Bummer.
 

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I had my wrench set up there as well as here. Free shipping. Ships to USA ONLY. Some cockbag from Australia buys it THEN asks if I can ship to Australia. So Im like damn ok 65 dollars shipping because not only do I have to make a special trip to the post office, I have to do customs paperwork too. I invoice him twice. No payment. I contact him twice. No reply. So now I have to send him a request to cancel the transaction and hopefully he at least does that. What a retard. People are out there to screw with other people who are just trying to get stuff done.

I wish you could have an option forcing only to sell to people in North America.

You do have that option. Look through all the things you can set up, block certain countries etc.

And DON't request to cancel. Just file a non-paying bidder report, he gets a strike and you get your fees back.
 

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There is no seller protection for selling across borders. No tracking is available, which is what ebay uses. They buyer can claim it never arrived, and the seller is screwed. Ask me how I know.

This is totally false. International shipments happen all the time. Tracking is easy. This is a global economy. If the buyer wants to pay for the ride, I welcome buyers from every corner of the globe.
 

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He can't really do that, Bsaint. I buy a lot of stuff from the US, and if it's marked "Ships to: United States" then I don't bid. If I wanted something desperately, I would write to the seller and beg them to consider sending it to me at my cost if I bought it. In my communications with US sellers I've found them to be great to deal with.

I wouldn't sell to that guy if I were you.
 

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He can't really do that, Bsaint. I buy a lot of stuff from the US, and if it's marked "Ships to: United States" then I don't bid. If I wanted something desperately, I would write to the seller and beg them to consider sending it to me at my cost if I bought it. In my communications with US sellers I've found them to be great to deal with.

I wouldn't sell to that guy if I were you.

I like Australians--you rank right up there with the Brits when it comes to being a loyal ally. I'm glad you've found others to have the same attitude. :)
 

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Cl is the best, but my stuff, (mostly tools) don't do much on it. Yes ebay fees are high but so is the price to go to the flee market or a swap meet. Sunday I spent $40, gas, tolls, space rent to go to the flee. I did about $200. For $40 I can sell 375 on fee bay and set in my cool air condition house. Some things (collectables) go good on feebay, craftsman tools are way better @ the flee market. I have some friends using Amaon, they like better than feebay.
 

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Well my wife is form Australia.
The US postoffice had flat rate price for different size boxes to Australia.
If you get set up with a postal account and credit card account you can ship anywhere in the world with ease. They deliver the forms to you upon request. They even drop off the boxes and pick up form your box. I love it. I ship to Germand, UK and Australia all the time with items sold on E bay.

It sounds like you are not aware of how easy it is. It only takes a minuet to fill out the form when you are watching TV It is really no time wasted. It is using the time you waste to make money.

There are always people that are not aware how much the shipping cost to Australia really are. When you gave him a $65 I would not mess with it eather. He should have given you notice. You neer know what happens. Sometimes people get sick, go to jail, loose access to the computer. There are many reasons not to hear form someone. It is very rude but it happens and it is part of doing business anywhere.

I owned an antique mall for years as a side business. I made a killing on the rents I collected and I made money selling. I had a woman buy a $1200 table. She paid with a credit card. She said she would be back to pick it up. I put it in storage after 2 weeks. I had a basment room for storage. It sat there for 12 years and one Sunday she walked in to see if we still had her table. She had been in jail for all that time. I have no clue why. I did not ask but gave her her table. I owned the building and I wish I had never closed the business and sold the building. It happens. That is a true story. I have had other things that were paid for and never picked up. You get people coming back for something and say where is my table or chair. I ask themfor a receipt and they never have one. They did not buy it but when they asked about it thought it was thiers until they came back. Just when you think you have seen it all something new comes up.

If you don't want to have people mess up up your day I suggest you don't sell becasue there will always be someone who comes along and will not pay for what ever reason.
It goes with sales.

File a complaint with E bay. Don't leave any reviews. It only opens the door to bad feelings and a bad feed back to you. The feed back is nuts and means nothing in my book.
What pisses me off about Flee bay is that they want to be your business partner and not provide a service.

Snap your spanks and learn to deal with all the dummies of the world. Let it roll.
Ship over seas. Why limit your sales. No skin off your nose. Just post that over seas bidders get a shipping quote before the bid. If you don't want to take the time don't sell.
 

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ONLY SHIP TO AUSTRAILIA VIA UPA OR FED EX SIGNATURE REQUIRED!!!!! I know of at least 5 guys who've sold sttuff to Austrailians (sorry not trying to stereotype) that demanded shipped via postal where there is no proof of delivery. Once they get the items they claim they didn't and have PayPal refund the money to them. You are out your item and have not where to go about it. BE CAREFUL.

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Well my wife is form Australia.
The US postoffice had flat rate price for different size boxes to Australia.
If you get set up with a postal account and credit card account you can ship anywhere in the world with ease. They deliver the forms to you upon request. They even drop off the boxes and pick up form your box. I love it. I ship to Germand, UK and Australia all the time with items sold on E bay.

It sounds like you are not aware of how easy it is. It only takes a minuet to fill out the form when you are watching TV It is really no time wasted. It is using the time you waste to make money.

There are always people that are not aware how much the shipping cost to Australia really are. When you gave him a $65 I would not mess with it eather. He should have given you notice. You neer know what happens. Sometimes people get sick, go to jail, loose access to the computer. There are many reasons not to hear form someone. It is very rude but it happens and it is part of doing business anywhere.

I owned an antique mall for years as a side business. I made a killing on the rents I collected and I made money selling. I had a woman buy a $1200 table. She paid with a credit card. She said she would be back to pick it up. I put it in storage after 2 weeks. I had a basment room for storage. It sat there for 12 years and one Sunday she walked in to see if we still had her table. She had been in jail for all that time. I have no clue why. I did not ask but gave her her table. I owned the building and I wish I had never closed the business and sold the building. It happens. That is a true story. I have had other things that were paid for and never picked up. You get people coming back for something and say where is my table or chair. I ask themfor a receipt and they never have one. They did not buy it but when they asked about it thought it was thiers until they came back. Just when you think you have seen it all something new comes up.

If you don't want to have people mess up up your day I suggest you don't sell becasue there will always be someone who comes along and will not pay for what ever reason.
It goes with sales.

File a complaint with E bay. Don't leave any reviews. It only opens the door to bad feelings and a bad feed back to you. The feed back is nuts and means nothing in my book.
What pisses me off about Flee bay is that they want to be your business partner and not provide a service.

Snap your spanks and learn to deal with all the dummies of the world. Let it roll.
Ship over seas. Why limit your sales. No skin off your nose. Just post that over seas bidders get a shipping quote before the bid. If you don't want to take the time don't sell.

So how much does it cost to ship your wife via parcel post? :)
 

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shipping internationally is easy. no trip to the post office or filling out of paperwork required. i do it almost every day. International buyers in general are used to high shipping costs and have no problems paying them.

having said that, if your auction sold to an international buyer, and you didn't want it to, that means you set it up wrong. your fault.

no need to do a cancel transaction, requiring the buyer's approval. Just start a UPI case, and if not paid in 4 days you get an automatic FVF credit. The buyer either pays, or the case gets closed in your favor. Buyer has no other recourse.
 

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1. Failure to pay gets a report to ebay. Buyer has 4 days to pay, then he/she gets a strike. I've closed about 300 auctions in the past year. Opened 5 or 6 cases, only 2 never paid.

2. International shipping: USPS Priority mail is insured, but very expensive. I offer to ship First class, as well, and buy insurance through Auctiva (which also makes listing much faster and easier). I'd rather not ship internationally, but I have to admit it really isn't a big hassle.

Selling on Ebay/Paypal seemed like a big pain at first, but it's not too bad once you get some inertia and use the tools available. I'd rather not pay them, but I figure someone's paying me enough for my items to cover those charges.

Of course, YMMV.
 

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I've sold lots of stuff on Ebay. Yes the ebay/paypal fees ****. But with the things I sell there is no replacement. I sold one small engine for over $400 a little while ago. Trying to sell that locally I probably couldnt have gotten any more than $35. It had a paticular part on it that was used on a certain model xyz that is very hard to find I didnt even know about. I couldnt believe that it sold for well over $400 plus shipping, and the guy even paid right away! And then I sold another small engine for over $50 (good money for what it was) and then the buyer paid $410 to ship it to Austrailia!! I couldnt believe it! Great guy though, and he had to have that model for the restoration of a peice of equipment for it to be authentic.

That being said... I normally do not ship international. 95% of the time none of the international people who I took all the time to give specific quotes for end up buying the item anyways. And often shipping costs are not concrete and I end up finding out its more than what it was supposed to be, and all the extra paper work and yada yada etc.
 
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I have plenty of gripes about ebay, but they do provide a service. they get my (and yours) used **** in front of millions of active buyers every day. Its worth the 20%.

As for paypal problems, here is the solution that worked for me.

I have a paypal account that is used only for collecting money from ebay sales. It has autosweep enabled. Autosweep is a little known option on (maybe just on business paypal accounts, not sure) that cleans out the paypal account every night and transfers all funds to the bank account.

Anyway, after many thousands of sales, I have never had a single chargeback.
 

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I have most of my tools and parts shipped from USA to Australia. I know what a medium/large flat rate costs (with signiture delivery). i am happy to wear it rather than buy purchase the rubbish sold locally.
Shipping USA made 'stuff' to the rest of the world is what made the USA economically strong.
Think about it.
 
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