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I hate UPC codes plastered all over my tools!

Madjik Man

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If it is a sticker in my possession, it has to come off. Tags in clothes, the do not remove tag on mattresses, and even the emblems on a car are all removed.

Strangely though, the printed UPC doesn’t both me.

I’m in the same boat.

Stickers/tags on anything have to be removed. There cannot be any adhesive whatsoever.

Things like dishware and drinking glasses will soak in vinegar (or a towel with vinegar on it) to remove any residue.

I particularly hate stickers on boxes/cases that I’m using where the residue or sticker simply doesn’t come off.
 
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Madjik Man

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I can’t explain it either….nowhere else on earth does such a willfully miserable conglomeration of folks gather to find new reasons to be upset.

Yet I keep coming back time after time and am somehow still surprised.

I’m a NY Giants fan. You should come to those fan forums. GJ is a kumbaya circle compared to those.
 

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The double standard is a little entertaining... People will find old, beat-up tools and restore them to pristine condition with waves of praise crashing down on them. But a guy wants his tools to just look nice from the start, and suddenly he's the bad guy, lol.

I am on the fence on this one. I don't like the look of the bar code, but I don't think it would bother me enough to risk damaging the handle trying to remove it. But you guys do what pleases ya, and I love ya for it, lol.
 
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zendriver

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Maybe just turn them over and admire them from that way? ;)

Seems like when I worked in industry. Nice tools always disappeared like magic.

I wonder if places are using some kind of inventoried tool room that uses those barcodes? :dunno:
 

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Ford’s price reductions were largely largely via production streamlining and content deletion, eg painted pressed steel in lieu of polished brass on previous models, and moving assembly lines in lieu of stationary builds.

Orior to Ford, the target market for automobiles was the wealthy. Ford’s market target was people with limited means who would live with a minimalist car. That’s exactly what the rants against SK Are complaining about. They aren’t Duesenburg tools. He was selling on price to an untapped market. That’s not what Apple, SnapOn, Lexus, Toyota, Daimler do. They all price based on what their target market will bear, not on what their cost is.

Today’s cost reduction equivalent to Ford’s moving assembly line is moving production offshore.
Good manufacturers (the ones that tend to advance things), either design the best product they can, or close to the best product, and then figure out how to manufacture that product for significantly less than something if its type should and would usually cost.
This significant reduction in the cost to manufacture is usually done thru innovative manufacturing, rather than simply finding cheap labor elsewhere, and labor or materials from elsewhere, are usually brought in to improve the product, not to lower cost.
Ford for instance, didn’t innovate the product, he innovated the production process.
 

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What’s with some companies printing UPC codes directly on the tool? I first noticed this first with Knipex, but Wera, PB Swiss, and Vessel are also repeat offenders. The PB Swiss orange acetate handled driver second from right came today and it’s a beautiful tool except for the ridiculously large white UPC code. The Heyco tool at the far right is an example of how it should be done, no UPC code just manufacturer and model.

I guess I can remove the codes with acetone from the rubber handles, and wetsand and polish the acetate handles, but why do I have to? What ever happened to stickers and/or hang tags? Why put a permanent price code on a tool? It just seems like such poor taste…

Have you considered switching over to SnapOn or another brand w/o any UPCs?
 

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Trigger warning... Habitat ReStore tags never removed from the grips of my second-hand pliers...

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Oh the humanity!
 

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I understand OP's annoyance, but honestly I'd love to have UPC embossed on all tools and machines. Easier to reorder the exact same item, or parts, or view the owners manual - just pull the UPC up on the phone. Also, no stupid stickers to peel off and use solvent etc.
Same. I’d love to be able to scan entire drawers at a time to make sure I had proper inventory.
 

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Just to put a bow on my embarrassment for starting this thread, I found that Flitz polish worked great for getting the white UPC code off the PB Swiss acetate handle without damage.
Honesty is never a thing to be embarrassed about, I understand your objection but I don't worry about it personally, packaging is just a fact of life for modern consumers, I really like Ko-ken packaging (old school with free decals). I quite like bar codes on products as well as it links me into modernity and computers in a very limited way without having to get involved too much.
 
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Just to put a bow on my embarrassment for starting this thread, I found that Flitz polish worked great for getting the white UPC code off the PB Swiss acetate handle without damage.

Don't be too hard on yourself... we're just razzing you. Everyone is different and has their preferences. I don't like mechanical pencils and the only pencil sharpener I use is a Mobius and Ruppert 602. On more than one occasion I've had to stop whatever I'm doing to find my sharpener. Dumb, I know, especially considering I could just use my pocket knife to touch up the end.

Which reminds me, I should order another one or two of those to have some spares on hand...
 

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I understand OP's annoyance, but honestly I'd love to have UPC embossed on all tools and machines. Easier to reorder the exact same item, or parts, or view the owners manual - just pull the UPC up on the phone. Also, no stupid stickers to peel off and use solvent etc.
If the UPC's don't rub off from consistence use, it would make things easier if you needed to get an exact replacement....unless of course you lost it.
 

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Same. I’d love to be able to scan entire drawers at a time to make sure I had proper inventory.
rfid tagging for surgical instruments is already pretty widespread. There are systems that record the contents of a cart when it rolls in, and again when out. Don't match, figure out what's missing where.

I'd be very surprised if ti's not an option in some hand tool environments, where foreign object damage is a big concern (like aviation, say).
 

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Ford’s price reductions were largely largely via production streamlining and content deletion, eg painted pressed steel in lieu of polished brass on previous models, and moving assembly lines in lieu of stationary builds.

Orior to Ford, the target market for automobiles was the wealthy. Ford’s market target was people with limited means who would live with a minimalist car. That’s exactly what the rants against SK Are complaining about. They aren’t Duesenburg tools. He was selling on price to an untapped market. That’s not what Apple, SnapOn, Lexus, Toyota, Daimler do. They all price based on what their target market will bear, not on what their cost is.

Today’s cost reduction equivalent to Ford’s moving assembly line is moving production offshore.
*Cost reductions which resulted in price reductions. You are arguing with yourself.
 

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UPC codes are ugly. It cheapens the tool. Makes it seem like a disposable item, no different from a box of diapers.
I like logos on tools, Klein used to be a lineman on a telephone pole stamped into the metal. Don't know if new ones have that.
 

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rfid tagging for surgical instruments is already pretty widespread. There are systems that record the contents of a cart when it rolls in, and again when out. Don't match, figure out what's missing where.

I'd be very surprised if ti's not an option in some hand tool environments, where foreign object damage is a big concern (like aviation, say).
Oh it already is, just not at price point I can afford. I can't remember if it is specifically Snap-On, but I think it's one of their tool control systems. It basically has a very fine scale attached to each drawer and a keypad system attached so that it can only be put away and locked by the authorized user(s) once the correct tools are back in the assigned drawer and the weight totals out correctly. I am scared to even ask how much something like that costs, but I definitely appreciate the concept. I'm hoping economy of scale brings the technology and prices down to where they are readily accessible at the individual level someday.
 

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Who cares? Unless it is stamped/engraved/molded into the tool it wont last very long. Look at laser etched sockets, it doesn't take much use and they revert back to black or chrome tubes. Most of my Knipex pliers don't have any lettering left on the grips anymore.
 

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Oh it already is, just not at price point I can afford. I can't remember if it is specifically Snap-On, but I think it's one of their tool control systems. It basically has a very fine scale attached to each drawer and a keypad system attached so that it can only be put away and locked by the authorized user(s) once the correct tools are back in the assigned drawer and the weight totals out correctly. I am scared to even ask how much something like that costs, but I definitely appreciate the concept. I'm hoping economy of scale brings the technology and prices down to where they are readily accessible at the individual level someday.
The medical tracking is done at the individual item level. So you know the cart not only has the right instruments, it has the same particular ones. that's also used to track the usage of particular tools, and to validate maintenance and sterilization is done and by whom. The system I've seen is more or less invisible to the surgical team, unless they have a lost instrument.
 

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God I hate this forum board but I keep coming back. Send that thing to me....the UPC code or whatever will be worn off in no time. But then it will be used and not pretty so now we cant admire it. But **** even if we don't use it and we wipe off the marking then now its's not original!!!!! Oh damned if we do and damned if we dont.



I'm just worried that my Snap on screw driver has these scratches in it and it will never be the same....devalued forever.



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Literally just warrantied that 6 hours ago but I wonder if my Snap On guy will re warranty that so I can get a nice shiny tip to match my pristine handle......for resale value or something you know......
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That poor screwdriver. You know just because you use a tool everyday, doesn't mean that you have to trash it.
 

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Our warehouse puts QR code stickers on everything.
I made QR "Rick-Roll' labels to put over them.
 
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