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i have a rat

brownbagg

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he big, hairy, red eyes and yellow teeth, size of a small pineapple, rat in my shop.

I have seen it, I can kill it no problem, but how did he get in.

I thinking roll up doors, you know how loose those are so up and over.

I wonder, you think, door sweep will tighten the area where the door meets the tracks.

i know a mouse will go right in, but were talking rat
 
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Might have come in when the door was up. Put out some bait stations to keep any rodents from becoming residents.


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I had a groundhog get in while door was up. Spooked one day and knocked a small ladder over and onto newly painted car. He hid and when I backed up to get him out he had hid under the rear tire. Squish,
 

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Maybe go to the local pound/rescue and adopt a cute cat.
 
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His name is Ricky and he's involved in gangs and important medical research. You should be honored to have him.
 

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You guys need to watch Willard

I saw Willard. I still hate rats!!!

To the OP. A mouse can get through a hole the size of a pencil by compressing their skull. If rats can do the same they wouldn't need a very large hole to get through.
 
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Rats and mice are limited to the size hole they can get through by the skull. They cannot compress their skulls. In the case of a rat, generally that means a hole the size of a quarter [25-cent piece] or a crack or seam around a door or window that is as narrow as the skull is thick. My wife has a house in Boston, and there is a real rat problem there. She has been fighting the problem for over a year. Fingers crossed, looks like the problem is contained, but I am not putting any cash on the line for betting it's over.

A mouse or rat can squeeze beneath or through a crack [garage door one example at the bottom of the door] that is about the thickness of the animal's skull. We saw this happen one evening, and it is amazing to see.

I always thought it was an urban myth that rats can come up through a toilet. However, this also happened in the Boston house. The evidence was finally found while a local handyman was at the house tearing out some old cabinets in the basement to try to find a point of ingress from the outside for the rats. He had spent countless hours sealing up holes, etc. over many months. He took a break to go upstairs to the second floor of the house to the bathroom. As he walked into the room, a rat ran out past him. The bathroom floor had wet rat tracks, as did the rim of the toilet. The rat was soaking wet. Later that day, with the old cabinets in the basement all torn out from the wall, he found an abandoned ssewer clean-out with the cap gone. The feces around that spot showed the rats had been using the clean-out as a way to get into the sewer line, then they crawled up the line for two stories, through the water-filled trap in the toilet, and into the room. He plugged the clean-out, and that was apparently the last way they were getting inside the house living quarters. Earlier that day, he'd found the final ingress point which was a hole to the outside for the basement sump pump hose to run. The space around the pipe was about a quarter inch in size and the insulation around it had been chewed and pushed away. He sealed that, and for the first time in years, no rats inside [yet] or for the past five months.

All this meaning that it is extremely difficult to stop the rats coming into a house, even more insane for a garage or old, leaky basement. We had put out poison and traps, checking them a couple times a day for over a year. Problem with poison is that the rats would eat it, then run away to their places of hiding, such as inside walls, die, and begin to smell. That is another bad story, but for now we're getting a bit of a break [hope, hope].

Good luck.
 
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We had Rats at work this year as our building is across the road from Grain Silos. The Maintenance Guys put out old fashioned Snap Traps, yes they were effective. Best photo circulating was of a Bird smashed flat in the Trap!
 

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I have a rat in my garage, too, but I'm glad it's there...

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Sorry that's no help...

Tommy
 

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Everybody has rats.

Even those who think they don't. Just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there.
 

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Inside the garage a 12 gauge might not be the best solution.


Everybody has rats.

Even those who think they don't. Just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there.

100% agree. My daughter has a lady tutor for some of her studies where she needs some extra help and the lady is a city slicker. A few weeks ago while the tutor was here my daughter called to me that there was a rat outside. Sure enough there was one sat next to the garden wall on the lawn as bold as brass. Usually I would have been straight out to deal with it but I was sure that the lady would have freaked out if I had done so i just left it alone. I am in the sticks with livestock, chickens and all sorts all around me so I am sure it was just one of the many that must be all around me.

John
 

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Best rat trap I have used was a 55 gallon steel drum used for something other than chemicals. The ones we use are for ingredients for a local ice cream factory. A board up to the edge and a hand full of grain in the bottom. Can catch a bunch at a time and then drown them or gas them with Carbon monoxide.
 

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Try a mix of oatmeal & fixall (repair compound) . Be a good host and leave
something to drink next to it- sweet works best (soda) .
Fixall will give them a tummy ache as it hardens, bye bye rat.
 

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These are the only kind of rats that should be in your garage. But for varmints like you have remember if you use any kind of poison/bait like decon for example that once it dies the next animal in the food chain is probably gonna probably eat it and the poison the rat ate, just hope its not one of your pets. On that note, snap traps placed in corners against walls works well. Rats and mice always feel safe and run along walls for sensing and security while they look for food and water. They only go out in the middle of the floors if there is a source of food/water. Put your traps or bait along the walls in the corners for best results and check them daily, it can get smelly if you don't dispose of the carcass. And close off any holes or gaps with steel wool/mesh, they'll eat expanding foam if they want to get in that bad. if their skull/head can fit then they can squeeze the rest of their fat bodies thru, pretty amazing actually.
 

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Rats and mice are limited to the size hole they can get through by the skull. They cannot compress their skulls. In the case of a rat, generally that means a hole the size of a quarter [25-cent piece] or a crack or seam around a door or window that is as narrow as the skull is thick. My wife has a house in Boston, and there is a real rat problem there. She has been fighting the problem for over a year. Fingers crossed, looks like the problem is contained, but I am not putting any cash on the line for betting it's over.

A mouse or rat can squeeze beneath or through a crack [garage door one example at the bottom of the door] that is about the thickness of the animal's skull. We saw this happen one evening, and it is amazing to see.

I always thought it was an urban myth that rats can come up through a toilet. However, this also happened in the Boston house. The evidence was finally found while a local handyman was at the house tearing out some old cabinets in the basement to try to find a point of ingress from the outside for the rats. He had spent countless hours sealing up holes, etc. over many months. He took a break to go upstairs to the second floor of the house to the bathroom. As he walked into the room, a rat ran out past him. The bathroom floor had wet rat tracks, as did the rim of the toilet. The rat was soaking wet. Later that day, with the old cabinets in the basement all torn out from the wall, he found an abandoned ssewer clean-out with the cap gone. The feces around that spot showed the rats had been using the clean-out as a way to get into the sewer line, then they crawled up the line for two stories, through the water-filled trap in the toilet, and into the room. He plugged the clean-out, and that was apparently the last way they were getting inside the house living quarters. Earlier that day, he'd found the final ingress point which was a hole to the outside for the basement sump pump hose to run. The space around the pipe was about a quarter inch in size and the insulation around it had been chewed and pushed away. He sealed that, and for the first time in years, no rats inside [yet] or for the past five months.

All this meaning that it is extremely difficult to stop the rats coming into a house, even more insane for a garage or old, leaky basement. We had put out poison and traps, checking them a couple times a day for over a year. Problem with poison is that the rats would eat it, then run away to their places of hiding, such as inside walls, die, and begin to smell. That is another bad story, but for now we're getting a bit of a break [hope, hope].
Good luck.
worked with a guy that had a creek behind there apartments.
He said the rats came up through the toilet, guess he saw them come in that way. He was pretty upset, don't think he was lying.
 
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Unrelated to OP's post, but at my shop I was assigned a car that has rodent damage to it's engine harness. Wouldn't comprehensive coverage take care of the whole harness?
 

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Rats and mice are limited to the size hole they can get through by the skull.

A few years ago, I was on the couch watching TV...out of the corner of my eye, I saw something move along a nearby baseboard. It was a bit dark in there, so I had to sit up & double-take. A couple seconds later, a mouse started moving again, toward a louvered cold air return grille on the wall about 4 feet from him.
I leapt off the couch & dove toward him, just as he got to the grille. He got his head & front legs through the louvers in the grille, as I grabbed his tail. He managed to get his back legs through too & was pushing with all his might! I still had him by the tail. I yelled for my son downstairs to bring a screwdriver up QUICK!
He unscrewed the two screws while I held the tail, then we took the grille & mouse outside, and let him go. I couldn't believe he got his whole body through the grille! I'd have to measure, but IIRC, the gaps between the louvers are only a little over 1/4", maybe a tiny bit wider.
 

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A couple years ago I had a squirrel in my garage. I had left the overhead door open when I went in the house for lunch and apparently the squirrel decided it was nicer in the garage than it was outside. When I got back to work in the garage, I heard and then saw the squirrel, so I got my pellet pistol out. After about a ten minute ordeal of chasing him around, I finally cornered him and shot him. The pellet pistol with ten pumps is quite lethal at close range on small animals. So much for having a squirrel as a permanent tenant in the garage.
 

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My dogs love it when the self moving toys try to get in the garage.
 

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Had a rat come into the garage a few years ago. Scared the **** out of me one morning as it was on my bench when I came out to go to work!

Turns out a small population had developed around our composting pile. Got that cleaned up, and used good old fashioned rat-sized snap traps. I set a few in the garage and a few outside, perpendicular to the outer wall as rats like to run along walls and edges and always take the same routes. Nailed that f*cker outdoors on the second night baited with peanut butter.

He had chewed through the weather stripping at my garage door(s). Evidence was plentiful. Haven't had a problem since. Also shot a couple of them around the same time under the bird feeder with my vintage Crosman .22 pellet gun. That was fun!

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Dave
 
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