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indebt

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New 30x32 slab poured in February. I knew this was the best time to seal or coat the floor and I began research. After finding this site, I found a post from Justin at Garageflooringllc.Com stating that, if he weren't in this business, he would use another vendor's products. I found that impressive that he wasn't just pushing his line down people's throats and generally wanted everyone to truly be informed of the best decision to make, even if it wasn't his stuff.

So, now I knew I wanted to use his products, just not which one. I narrowed it down to Rust Bullet or TLPPC. I decided on TLPPC for cheaper costs and ease of installation. Not having a solid light gray floor was okay with me and I knew that a plane slab with a sheen would probably do the trick.

Once I got the TLPPC, I just mopped my floor twice, let dry a day, and then started spraying it on. Couldn't have been any easier. I ordered 8 gallons and thus far have done 3 coats with just 5 gallons. First coat, a gallon covered about 500 sqft or a little less. I let about 3 hours pass for first coat to dry. 2nd coat was done at night and 3rd was done next evening.

Results......well after that first coat I was very surprised at the sheen left. If that's all I got, I would've been satisfied with it. Looked fantastic. 2nd coat got even more. 3rd coat was hard to tell if it got any more. Floor is definitely darker and marble like looking. Got compliments from everyone and someone even asked if it was still wet, even though it had been dry for a day. I highly recommend this option if you are looking for a sealer, and I'm extremely pleased with how it turned out. I mean I just look at it and think, "gosh I LOVE this floor"!!

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Theo911

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that does look fantastic! Any before pics? Curious as to how much it darkened with the TLPPC. Also did you add shark grip or anything? How slick is it wet?
 
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indebt

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that does look fantastic! Any before pics? Curious as to how much it darkened with the TLPPC. Also did you add shark grip or anything? How slick is it wet?

I was excited and forgot to take before pics. It darkened it up quite a bit, more than what I thought. No shark grip or anti skid added. Also haven't been wet. I don't have a drain and don't plan on washing inside, but I imagine it might be a tad slippery. Sure Justin be glad to include some anti skid for ya.

Here's just one coat and it's still a little light.

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I was excited and forgot to take before pics. It darkened it up quite a bit, more than what I thought. No shark grip or anti skid added. Also haven't been wet. I don't have a drain and don't plan on washing inside, but I imagine it might be a tad slippery. Sure Justin be glad to include some anti skid for ya.

Here's just one coat and it's still a little light.

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For those reading and thinking about this or another clear product.... The really important thing to remember when you do a clear floor is it is clear :D There is absolutely no pigment. It won't hide anything. Perhaps most importantly each and every concrete floor react different. Some mixes darken more than others. Some concrete is less smooth and takes more coats to start to gloss. Some concrete has a cool natural look to it and other concrete just looks gray. MOST of the time you will have areas that are different than others based on how the floor cured.

I grew up working in my fathers lumberyard in a home with all natural oak hardwood floors. I love building materials when their natural state has been highlighted like this. I love it when one board looks different from another and every cabinet is unique. If you do too, clear is very cool. If you want everything congruent clear is a risk.
 

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Looks good! I tested TLPPC 3'x3' area on my new slab (Oct. 15) two days ago, just cleaned the area by hand and rinsed with water before applying. It appears to have penetrated well with no flaking. I was a bit concerned because my GC had applied WR Meadows curing agent when the slab was green, so I was worried that it might not accept it but it looks good. I do have one question though, it appears that users are getting a little further with their material than the instructions recommend. For a 2000 sq foot slab, do you think I could get away with only 6 gallons for two coats (sprayed on)?
 

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Looks good! I tested TLPPC 3'x3' area on my new slab (Oct. 15) two days ago, just cleaned the area by hand and rinsed with water before applying. It appears to have penetrated well with no flaking. I was a bit concerned because my GC had applied WR Meadows curing agent when the slab was green, so I was worried that it might not accept it but it looks good. I do have one question though, it appears that users are getting a little further with their material than the instructions recommend. For a 2000 sq foot slab, do you think I could get away with only 6 gallons for two coats (sprayed on)?

NO :D

Order 10. Lets say you get 6 and run short. That's a lot of sanding. Say you get 10 and you have 2 left over... Just package them well and ship them back.
 
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Looks good! I tested TLPPC 3'x3' area on my new slab (Oct. 15) two days ago, just cleaned the area by hand and rinsed with water before applying. It appears to have penetrated well with no flaking. I was a bit concerned because my GC had applied WR Meadows curing agent when the slab was green, so I was worried that it might not accept it but it looks good. I do have one question though, it appears that users are getting a little further with their material than the instructions recommend. For a 2000 sq foot slab, do you think I could get away with only 6 gallons for two coats (sprayed on)?

Justin had told me about 350 sqft or so a gallon for first coat. 2nd coat was 400- 500 probably. Six probably pushing it. Just get extra and what's left sell to your buddies once they see your floor
 

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That looks great!

Justin, I didn't see anything to the contrary on your site, but do you ship the TLPPC to California? Seems some coatings/sealers aren't legal here. I've been planning on doing some sort of clear coating or sealer for an outdoor patio and haven't done much looking yet but when I did some preliminary research people were saying the good stuff can't be bought here in CA.
 

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Question, how will that floor hold up to lots of welding on it. It looks great and I might want to do it too if it will hold up to lots of welding and grinding on it.
 

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You say that you applied it with a garden sprayer. Did you have to back roll any of the coats?
 

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Question, how will that floor hold up to lots of welding on it. It looks great and I might want to do it too if it will hold up to lots of welding and grinding on it.

This stuff is very very tough, but any coating you put on any floor can and will be damaged by weld slag. If you want to do a sealer and you do not want to protect the floor, consider TL37 and Ghostshield 8505 as it leaves no film to damage

You say that you applied it with a garden sprayer. Did you have to back roll any of the coats?

WE suggest that you have a lambswool roller handy for the learning curve and use it if you spray it on to heavy and it puddles. Otherwise no back-rolling.
 
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indebt

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You say that you applied it with a garden sprayer. Did you have to back roll any of the coats?

Yes, like Justin said, I had a roller that I used when it got too thick. It left no roller marks and I even rolled front and back. Easiest application ever.
 

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Justin - is TLPPC compatible with an anti-skid additive? I know its more of a penetrating sealer so is anti-skid even necessary? Just worried about the snow melting off the cars and leaving water puddles. I'd never hear the end of it from the wife if she took a spill on the new floor sealer I just had to have...
 

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How was your floor finished? Am just curious as to what I'm going to need to do.

Mine was power trowled, and is very smooth. I'm going to message Justin as to wether I could get away with just etching it, or if I will have to do a light grind.
 

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How was your floor finished? Am just curious as to what I'm going to need to do.

Mine was power trowled, and is very smooth. I'm going to message Justin as to wether I could get away with just etching it, or if I will have to do a light grind.

I just got off the phone with Justin and he referred me to this thread. My barn was power trowled as well and he recommended just a very very dilute acid etch followed by a neutralizer before spraying on the TLPPC. He mentioned like a 10-1 dilution of the muriatic acid that he gets from his local hardware store.
 
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How was your floor finished? Am just curious as to what I'm going to need to do.

Mine was power trowled, and is very smooth. I'm going to message Justin as to wether I could get away with just etching it, or if I will have to do a light grind.

Power trowled as well. Did nothing but mop it twice.
 

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Floors look great.
After being tagged in a Facebook post about this product and reading this post, I just placed an order for 4 gallons for my new garage.
 

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New 30x32 slab poured in February. I knew this was the best time to seal or coat the floor and I began research. After finding this site, I found a post from Justin at Garageflooringllc.Com stating that, if he weren't in this business, he would use another vendor's products. I found that impressive that he wasn't just pushing his line down people's throats and generally wanted everyone to truly be informed of the best decision to make, even if it wasn't his stuff.

So, now I knew I wanted to use his products, just not which one. I narrowed it down to Rust Bullet or TLPPC. I decided on TLPPC for cheaper costs and ease of installation. Not having a solid light gray floor was okay with me and I knew that a plane slab with a sheen would probably do the trick.

Once I got the TLPPC, I just mopped my floor twice, let dry a day, and then started spraying it on. Couldn't have been any easier. I ordered 8 gallons and thus far have done 3 coats with just 5 gallons. First coat, a gallon covered about 500 sqft or a little less. I let about 3 hours pass for first coat to dry. 2nd coat was done at night and 3rd was done next evening.

Results......well after that first coat I was very surprised at the sheen left. If that's all I got, I would've been satisfied with it. Looked fantastic. 2nd coat got even more. 3rd coat was hard to tell if it got any more. Floor is definitely darker and marble like looking. Got compliments from everyone and someone even asked if it was still wet, even though it had been dry for a day. I highly recommend this option if you are looking for a sealer, and I'm extremely pleased with how it turned out. I mean I just look at it and think, "gosh I LOVE this floor"!!

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Love this look. Our house will be finished sometime in the June time frame and I plan on using this for my garage. I'm also debating whether or not I should do this to the entire driveway/walkway/porch of the house. Anyone have any full pics their house with their driveway finished with this product?
 
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Floors look great.
After being tagged in a Facebook post about this product and reading this post, I just placed an order for 4 gallons for my new garage.

Thanks! I honestly wasn't expecting to be so happy about how it turned out. After building a garage, costs just kept adding up and I knew I still had to put something on the floor. Decided to save a little money and get the TLPPC and just be content with a sheen and protection. Now, there's nothing else out there that I would rather have than this!!!!
 

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I'm still concerned about the 'slickness' of this finish without any type of grip additive. Beautiful floor, but if you bust your **** just because your shoes may be wet?

Also, if it does lose its sheen, can you degrease the floors a decade down the road and apply a couple of fresh coats?

Justin, what's your take?
 

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I'm still concerned about the 'slickness' of this finish without any type of grip additive. Beautiful floor, but if you bust your **** just because your shoes may be wet?

Also, if it does lose its sheen, can you degrease the floors a decade down the road and apply a couple of fresh coats?

Justin, what's your take?

My personal opinion is, no matter what any manufacturer says or tries to tell you, a wet floor can be a slick floor. We have even seen it with Rust Bullet. That said this product penetrates and does not leave a whole lot of film. Obviously more coats = more potential. The official factory answer is it meets the traction requirements :)

Once the floor is sealed (meaning water does not penetrate) and the coating is cured you have to lightly sand and solvent wipe before recoating.
 

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Once the floor is sealed (meaning water does not penetrate) and the coating is cured you have to lightly sand and solvent wipe before recoating.

Doesn't get any easier than that.
 

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Is this any good with salt ? I live in Quebec and looking for either a sealer like this or a full pigmented solution ... Needs to resist salt and abrasion ... Thanks !! Ps: looks awesome !!!
 

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Is this any good with salt ? I live in Quebec and looking for either a sealer like this or a full pigmented solution ... Needs to resist salt and abrasion ... Thanks !! Ps: looks awesome !!!

YES. Just like any sealer the key here is to make sure your floor is completely sealed. No water should be able to penetrate. Depending on the concrete and the applicator, minimum two coats. I really like the look of 3
 

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your floor looks phenomenal. I really do appreciate the look of the raw concrete.
how does this hop up to road salts, and how often should it be reapplied?
 

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How does it resist to gas ans brake fluid ? Do you ship to Canada ? If yes how much for a 26x32 garage ?

We can ship to Canada but we have to quote it out. Give us a call or drop me a PM with your info.

your floor looks phenomenal. I really do appreciate the look of the raw concrete.
how does this hop up to road salts, and how often should it be reapplied?

The product has been tested against all automotive fluids and does very well. The testing is on the site. Brake fluid should always be cleaned up though.
 
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I'll also keep an update on how it is.

So far so good. I cleaned or did my best to clean, all my casters from floor jacks, engine stand, cherry picker and creeper. So far, haven't noticed any marks left. I've had a few thin spots, so need to sand and reapply. After laying down first coat, it actually was tough to see where I was spraying so I'm sure I'll have a few spots to touch up here and there.
 

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I'll also keep an update on how it is.

So far so good. I cleaned or did my best to clean, all my casters from floor jacks, engine stand, cherry picker and creeper. So far, haven't noticed any marks left. I've had a few thin spots, so need to sand and reapply. After laying down first coat, it actually was tough to see where I was spraying so I'm sure I'll have a few spots to touch up here and there.

My floor jack hasn't left any marks but one thing I do have going on is tires are leaving brown spots all over the floor.
Have you had any vehicle traffic on your floor yet and experienced this?
 
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indebt

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My floor jack hasn't left any marks but one thing I do have going on is tires are leaving brown spots all over the floor.
Have you had any vehicle traffic on your floor yet and experienced this?

Yes I have and yes they are. Well, when I wiped them up, my paper towel was black, black!! More like impressions left, although I did just wipe some up, so I wasn't too concerned. Just figured gonna have to mop every now and then. U can see them in just the right light. My floor is dark as well, so lighter one might show up good. Have u tried to wipe them up?
 

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Yes I have and yes they are. Well, when I wiped them up, my paper towel was black, black!! More like impressions left, although I did just wipe some up, so I wasn't too concerned. Just figured gonna have to mop every now and then. U can see them in just the right light. My floor is dark as well, so lighter one might show up good. Have u tried to wipe them up?

I tried to wipe them with a damp towel but no cleaner, no luck. I'll try some cleaner next. My concrete is a lot lighter in Color than yours.
But my piece of sh*t floor jack decided to leak on my floor and I didn't notice for a couple of days. When I wiped up the fluid there was no stain or marks left. I've also spilled rubbing alcohol and dripped brake cleaner on it with no adverse affects. :dunno:
 

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It looks fantastic. I hope it holds up. This may just be the ticket for my new build. The price is right and it covers a lot of area. I'm looking at 925sq. ft of garage. (2-car + RV).

So, can anti-skid be added?
 
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