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After completely wiring my new garage, drywall and paint finished, I discovered that I failed to run a power wire to my ceiling fan outlet!!!:mad: It is set up in the same circuit with my furnace and hose reel outlet. So, basically it's just another daisy chained box. I have 3 options that I am aware of, 1)I try to pull a an additional wire 2)I leave it running full time, or 3)I incorporate a wireless controller. I bought a Westinghouse 56" industrial stainless fan that got rave reviews on multiple sights but it is has a wired control unit and has no light. The wireless controllers I am seeing all have light controls. Any ideas or thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Pull a wire. I pulled out one thru drilled holes the other day and 2 back in. Putting one in can be a challenge but it's a done deal vs adding more gizmo ****.
 

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do they make for it, or do you have a 3 speed control on it? Usually one of the pull settings is off. Some fans come without a speed pull control but the manufacturers make a small kit. You might look on the paperwork that came with it to see what accessories it has.
 

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Easiest ...wireless controller. They work great. But you can loose or misplace it.

Best, pull another wire
 
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My ceiling is 12'. Having a pull is not an option here. I was hoping to find a wireless controller that would mount into a wall switch box so it won't get lost!
 
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If you have attic access, it probably won't be as hard as you think it will to pull a wire.

I'm contemplating doing this. I have a 3/12 pitch roof so there is very little room in the ceiling to move around and I'm worried about cracking my drywall. Ugh.
 

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I say cut open the drywall patching it is better than working in the attic that closes to a wall.
 

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My ceiling is 12'. Having a pull is not an option here. I was hoping to find a wireless controller that would mount into a wall switch box so it won't get lost!
Lutron Caseta makes a wireless fan control that mounts in a switch box and you can buy a pico remote for it. You can wall mount the remote like a switch so you don't loose it.

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Lutron Caseta makes a wireless fan control that mounts in a switch box and you can buy a pico remote for it. You can wall mount the remote like a switch so you don't loose it.

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Time to resurrect this. I attempted to pull a wire to run to the fan box in the ceiling. No luck. 9' up a wall through insulation and 2 two by fours is like threading a needle in the dark with a 50 mph wind. I purchased a wireless power switch:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012H6QZVC/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I can just power it on from this but I still have no control over the speed of the fan. There is no pull chain as it is a Westinghouse Industrial Fan part #7861400. I can get the Westinghouse wireless kit if that is my only option:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WEIJ8O/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I really want a wall switch mount but if I have to use the remote I suppose I'll just have to. If I knew I could just set it to a desired speed and leave it on with the wireless switch I'd be okay with that.

Any other ideas?
 

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Time to resurrect this. I attempted to pull a wire to run to the fan box in the ceiling. No luck. 9' up a wall through insulation and 2 two by fours is like threading a needle in the dark with a 50 mph wind. I purchased a wireless power switch:

Up?

I go down...gravity. Plus it's far easier to find a wire somewhere in the stud bay uding a box opening then trying to nail a one inch hole.

I'm a hardware and patch vote.....
 
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Time to resurrect this. I attempted to pull a wire to run to the fan box in the ceiling. No luck. 9' up a wall through insulation and 2 two by fours is like threading a needle in the dark with a 50 mph wind. I purchased a wireless power switch:



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012H6QZVC/?tag=atomicindus08-20



I can just power it on from this but I still have no control over the speed of the fan. There is no pull chain as it is a Westinghouse Industrial Fan part #7861400. I can get the Westinghouse wireless kit if that is my only option:



https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WEIJ8O/?tag=atomicindus08-20



I really want a wall switch mount but if I have to use the remote I suppose I'll just have to. If I knew I could just set it to a desired speed and leave it on with the wireless switch I'd be okay with that.



Any other ideas?

Here's an idea...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P11NLB4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JZRAFEA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Mount the reciever switch on the ceiling, pair the pico remote to the switch, and mount the pico remote to the wall and install a decora cover plate. Battery is good for 10 years (CR2032 battery). No one will even know it's a remote.

Edit: then you can return that other wireless switch.

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Here's an idea...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P11NLB4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JZRAFEA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Mount the reciever switch on the ceiling, pair the pico remote to the switch, and mount the pico remote to the wall and install a decora cover plate. Battery is good for 10 years (CR2032 battery). No one will even know it's a remote.

Edit: then you can return that other wireless switch.

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Just so I am understanding what you are saying...I connect the wall mounted switch to the fan and the remote to the wall? That's it?
 

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Just so I am understanding what you are saying...I connect the wall mounted switch to the fan and the remote to the wall? That's it?
Yup. Super easy to do.

Pairing the remote to the switch is as easy as pressing the button for 10 seconds on the switch, then pressing the button on the remote for 10 seconds.

There's also a scene/favorite button so if you have a speed you like you can recall it with literally the push of a button.

If you want app control in the future you'll need a hub... but these work without it as long as you don't want app control.

You can also connect up to 10 switches to one remote, in case you wanted more than 1 fan in the future.


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Yup. Super easy to do.

Pairing the remote to the switch is as easy as pressing the button for 10 seconds on the switch, then pressing the button on the remote for 10 seconds.

There's also a scene/favorite button so if you have a speed you like you can recall it with literally the push of a button.

If you want app control in the future you'll need a hub... but these work without it as long as you don't want app control.

You can also connect up to 10 switches to one remote, in case you wanted more than 1 fan in the future.


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That is what I will do! Thank you for the advisement! I hope the switch will fit in the fan housing, if it does, I'll be golden!

I have no need for the fan to be smarter than me and I won't be adding any more fans to this garage.
 

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That is what I will do! Thank you for the advisement! I hope the switch will fit in the fan housing, if it does, I'll be golden!



I have no need for the fan to be smarter than me and I won't be adding any more fans to this garage.

I would advise against mounting the switch inside the housing. I would reccomend either mounting it in the attic (not exactly the first choice) or cutting a box in the ceiling for it and put a box in for it.

If course, it is your garage, not mine, so I can only reccomend not to [emoji14]

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I would advise against mounting the switch inside the housing. I would reccomend either mounting it in the attic (not exactly the first choice) or cutting a box in the ceiling for it and put a box in for it.

If course, it is your garage, not mine, so I can only reccomend not to [emoji14]

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Yeah, a box will suffice. I just blew my insulation in a couple days ago so this should be FUN! lol
 

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Yeah, a box will suffice. I just blew my insulation in a couple days ago so this should be FUN! lol
It won't be as bad as you think. A trick to finding the fan box is to stick a piece of wire (or a fish tape if you have one) up through the insulation beside the fan box.

When you're done up There, use a leaf rake (preferably a plastic one) to fluff up the insulation where you packed It down.

Also, that fan switch requires a neutral so you will need a 3 conductor cable if it's gonna be a "dead end" switch.

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It won't be as bad as you think. A trick to finding the fan box is to stick a piece of wire (or a fish tape if you have one) up through the insulation beside the fan box.

When you're done up There, use a leaf rake (preferably a plastic one) to fluff up the insulation where you packed It down.

Also, that fan switch requires a neutral so you will need a 3 conductor cable if it's gonna be a "dead end" switch.

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When I ran the wire to the fan box, I did exactly as I did when I daisy chained the electrical outlet boxes so I have 12/2 Romex going in and out of that box. If what you mean by a "neutral" is the white wire in that Romex, then yes, I have a neutral. I can pigtail a short piece of romex and run it into a single gang box and mount the switch to it either in the attic or cut a box into the ceiling. Am I thinking about this correctly? Getting to the box in the insulation is easy enough, I just hoped I would never have to go up into the ceiling again, LOL
 

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When I ran the wire to the fan box, I did exactly as I did when I daisy chained the electrical outlet boxes so I have 12/2 Romex going in and out of that box. If what you mean by a "neutral" is the white wire in that Romex, then yes, I have a neutral. I can pigtail a short piece of romex and run it into a single gang box and mount the switch to it either in the attic or cut a box into the ceiling. Am I thinking about this correctly? Getting to the box in the insulation is easy enough, I just hoped I would never have to go up into the ceiling again, LOL
If you have constant power in your ceiling fan box, and are going to add a wire out of it to another box for this switch, you need to use three conductors. One for line (power), one for load (to the fan) and a neutral because the fan control needs a neutral. A piece of 3 conductor plus ground wire is what you will need.

I can draw an image for you if need be.

And yes, it does **** to go into an attic after you think you are done. I've done that more times than I can count.

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If you have constant power in your ceiling fan box, and are going to add a wire out of it to another box for this switch, you need to use three conductors. One for line (power), one for load (to the fan) and a neutral because the fan control needs a neutral. A piece of 3 conductor plus ground wire is what you will need.

I can draw an image for you if need be.

And yes, it does **** to go into an attic after you think you are done. I've done that more times than I can count.

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I'm gonna need the image. I think I know what you are saying but I want to be sure. Thank you.
 
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