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Myles860

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I’m fairly new to the forum but have collected craftsman tools for about work years now. I guess if you leave ratchets in a drawer to long they reproduce. Still missing a couple in some of the sets and there’s a few I’d like to get nicer ones of.

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You’re still taking baby steps at this point.


Hang out long enough and you’ll see.
 
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I don't know why you would buy all those Craftsman ratchets, but I have the same problem with buying cheap ratchets to try out that I don't really need.
 

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Now you need to put each ratchet in its own toolbox drawer. You might need to buy some additional toolboxes. This is how you stop them from reproducing.
 

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I suggest building an addition to the garage.

That's about all you can do at this point.
 
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I just got my first garage in May everything was in a shed before that


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Awesome collection. That's a lot of history represented there. I am partial to the flying V ratchets. That's what my dad used.
 
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I’m fairly new to the forum but have collected craftsman tools for about work years now. I guess if you leave ratchets in a drawer to long they reproduce. Still missing a couple in some of the sets and there’s a few I’d like to get nicer ones of.

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Nice collection. There are so many Craftsman ratchet variants out there. Why nothing pre V series? You seem to have your bases covered in the later Craftsman era.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061
 
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Just haven’t found anything pre v era cheap once I finish out the the sets that are missing ones I might go that direction. Or finish out my socketsIMG_0294.JPG


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Or finish out my sockets

You’ve already questioned the ratchet fixation. You better be damn certain you’re ready to go down the dreaded socket rabbit hole. My advice, buy a snorkel
 

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Why is the thread existent?

Its literally a thread just for the OP to show off...


I like it

I say it all the time the older cman stuff were great tools, alot disagree. The amount of abuse mine have gone thru is insane. It's very unfortunate they went downhill the way they did. Cman could have been like a mac or SO that was available in store. I genuinely believe if sears had kept the quality, raised prices slightly, applied that cash into improving the cman manufacturing infrastructure and technology, the sears and craftsman brand would still be thriving and almost untouchable.
 
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Why is the thread existent?

Its literally a thread just for the OP to show off...


I like it

I say it all the time the older cman stuff were great tools, alot disagree. The amount of abuse mine have gone thru is insane. It's very unfortunate they went downhill the way they did. Cman could have been like a mac or SO that was available in store. I genuinely believe if sears had kept the quality, raised prices slightly, applied that cash into improving the cman manufacturing infrastructure and technology, the sears and craftsman brand would still be thriving and almost untouchable.



I know a lot do disagree I’m a shade tree mechanic I don’t do it for a living but I wanted something that has made in the USA and didn’t have to wait for shipping or deal with a tool truck. I started building my tools in 2000 10 years before they outsourced I was heartbroken at that point. I do hope stanly makes things right as for the thread existent it kinda is to show off we we all like looking and who knows maybe someone will see something and be like hey what is the number on that ratchet I’m missing on
 

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I say it all the time the older cman stuff were great tools, alot disagree. The amount of abuse mine have gone thru is insane. It's very unfortunate they went downhill the way they did. Cman could have been like a mac or SO that was available in store. I genuinely believe if sears had kept the quality, raised prices slightly, applied that cash into improving the cman manufacturing infrastructure and technology, the sears and craftsman brand would still be thriving and almost untouchable.

The average Craftsman user wasn't looking for MAC or Snap on. They were looking for pennies on the piece pricing on sale and that lifetime warranty.:thumbup:
Additionally, everyone blames Sears Corporate for its woes, and I'm sure they own many of the problems but, you have to wonder that with Apex/Bain Capital shuttering the Armstrong factories that used to churn out thousands of Craftsman tools, if they didn't do more to kill US made Craftsman than sears itself. :dunno:
 

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The average Craftsman user wasn't looking for MAC or Snap on. They were looking for pennies on the piece pricing on sale and that lifetime warranty.:thumbup:
Additionally, everyone blames Sears Corporate for its woes, and I'm sure they own many of the problems but, you have to wonder that with Apex/Bain Capital shuttering the Armstrong factories that used to churn out thousands of Craftsman tools, if they didn't do more to kill US made Craftsman than sears itself. :dunno:
Armstrong/Apex was still around when Craftsman/Sears went Asian.. On the contrary, You have to wonder if by Sears moving production to China, that helped kill Armstrong? They were a major supplier for Craftsman tools, with the loss of a huge customer like that, it was probably a matter of time for Armstrong to be scuttled.
Why is the thread existent?

Its literally a thread just for the OP to show off...


I like it

I say it all the time the older cman stuff were great tools, alot disagree. The amount of abuse mine have gone thru is insane. It's very unfortunate they went downhill the way they did. Cman could have been like a mac or SO that was available in store. I genuinely believe if sears had kept the quality, raised prices slightly, applied that cash into improving the cman manufacturing infrastructure and technology, the sears and craftsman brand would still be thriving and almost untouchable.

I agree 100%
 

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The average Craftsman user wasn't looking for MAC or Snap on. They were looking for pennies on the piece pricing on sale and that lifetime warranty.:thumbup:
Additionally, everyone blames Sears Corporate for its woes, and I'm sure they own many of the problems but, you have to wonder that with Apex/Bain Capital shuttering the Armstrong factories that used to churn out thousands of Craftsman tools, if they didn't do more to kill US made Craftsman than sears itself. :dunno:

I agree with you on that, sears very well could have had some type of dispute with suppliers, and had to reposition themselves. Sears being a public company though, I feel as though information like that would have been made public and disclosed:dunno:

I still feel as though sears could have gone the complete opposite direction they did with cman. What I was trying to say is that as cman grew, they could have made the craftsman brand into something that your average snapon or mac tool user would consider reaching for. I for one, would have spent a lot of money at a retailer with the brick and mortar infrastructure that sears had, but offered mac or SO level tools. I would have payed a premium for that, probably still would. They could have even had craftsman tool trucks and used the sears infrastructure as distribution centers and retail centers. Buy from the truck or store, warranty at the truck or store, have most tools in stock or nearby at all times, amazon prime wouldn't even be able to get it in your hands any faster. I'm just saying, itll never happen, not even with stanley or lowes.

Hell, they didnt even need to do that. They could have just dropped their suppliers, launched their own manufacturing plant, improved on their US made craftsman brand, sold it in stores, and just rebranded their tools for matco or something. Even that probably would have kept sears alive.

I feel as though with how cman was back then, they could have easily raised the capital through bonds or loans and would have had everything well established by now. The quality of cman back then was lightyears ahead what we've known for the last 10 years. At one point, cman was taking a step in the right direction and blew it

No use in dreaming though, that ship has sailed and craftsman was on board.
 
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