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bowhuntr311

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Has anyone used this stuff? I have yet to see the stuff in person. Someone on here mentioned it a week ago and thats the first I have heard of the stuff.

I was gonna do steel liner panel but this appears to be worth looking into. Wondering about install practices for it. I see it advertised as hidden fasteners? Im wondering if a guy can just use sheet rock screws or its nailed? I see they have an H trim piece I assume you'd need between each panel?

Let me know if any of you have dealt with this stuff. THANKS.

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K'ledgeBldr

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Abtco panels are used a lot for commercial kitchens- it makes cleaning easier and the health inspector happy.

Easy to use, lots of applications, joinery is with "H" & "J" channel, along with other specialty pieces.

You didn't mention your intended use(?)
 

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Has anyone used this stuff? I have yet to see the stuff in person. Someone on here mentioned it a week ago and thats the first I have heard of the stuff.

I was gonna do steel liner panel but this appears to be worth looking into. Wondering about install practices for it. I see it advertised as hidden fasteners? Im wondering if a guy can just use sheet rock screws or its nailed? I see they have an H trim piece I assume you'd need between each panel?

Let me know if any of you have dealt with this stuff. THANKS.

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Why not read the install instructions, which Menards links for you on all product pages they have the info for? The H trim pieces are between the ends, the top and bottom interlock (like laminate flooring).

Sheet rock screws are for sheet rock, and basically sheet rock alone. You can use screws, you just have to make sure the panels are free to move side-to-side... just like vinyl siding.

Instructions state:

Screw fasteners can be used if the screws do not restrict the normal expansion and contraction
movement of the vinyl I span wall paneling system on the wall. Screws must be centered in the
slot with approximately 1/16” (0.4mm) space between the screw head and the vinyl. Screws
must be able to penetrate not less 1” (24mm) into backing material keeping 1/16” (0.4mm)
space between the head and the vinyl.
• Size #8, truss head or pan head
• Corrosion-resistant, self-tapping sheet metal type
 

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BTW, like most vinyl products it is super easy to work with using only the simplest hand tools... requiring only basic instruction following skills (nailing/screwing and expansion gaps) to ensure it doesn't buckle. Otherwise it's easy and at 16" tall it goes up quickly.
 

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Keep in mind that if a panel is damaged you have to start at the last panel installed and remove them until you get to the damaged one to replace it. We did a job with similar metal panels and will never do one again.
 

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Keep in mind that if a panel is damaged you have to start at the last panel installed and remove them until you get to the damaged one to replace it. We did a job with similar metal panels and will never do one again.

Since they're vinyl, it's pretty easy to cut out a panel and replace with some glue/etc.
 

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And how do you get the screws out? I have been there and it wasn't fun. Tried to be clever and finally removed thirteen panels to get to the bad one, replaced it and reinstalled thirteen panels and trim. Never again.
 

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Well that doesn't sound like fun. Sounds like the old accustical ceiling tiles installed in "rec rooms" in the 60s. they were nailed/stapled to the bottom if the floor joists and noeasywayto replace or remove one. I vote no.
 
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bowhuntr311

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You didn't mention your intended use(?)
Id finish the inside of my 40x40x10 shop with the stuff. 2x6 16oc framed.


Why not read the install instructions, which Menards links for you on all product pages they have the info for?

Totally missed them...I looked 2 times aswell:eek: I see them now.

Thanks for all the input.
 
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bowhuntr311

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Originally I priced just the cost of the panels at about .04 more per sq ft to finish walls and shop but now with the additional price of the trim pieces it makes it significantly more and most likely will be out of the question.
 
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This is great stuff. I have a 24' x 48' structure with 12' high ceiling. I did the walls with drywall and the ceiling with I Span. It is easier to work with because of the weight. Went in easy. Its just like installing vinyl siding.
 

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And how do you get the screws out? I have been there and it wasn't fun. Tried to be clever and finally removed thirteen panels to get to the bad one, replaced it and reinstalled thirteen panels and trim. Never again.
Do they offer a c trim piece for the end of the run? Could you use a pair of c's in place of an h in the middle of long runs to deal with this?
 

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Mike, I haven’t kept up with the product because I don’t have anyone asking for it and I don’t have any interest in installing it.

A major consideration for where I am is freight damage. Anything that comes here on a truck probably gets transferred three or four times. I generally order extra of everything just to hopefully cover any damage. Another reason things cost more to build in beautiful remote places. Imagine what it costs to order some extra panels and trim.
 

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Any thing can be damaged during shipping. For the I Span you can purchase from your local distributor. When you go to pick it up or have them deliver, if it is damaged you just reject it like any thing else and they have to replace the material.
 

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Do they offer a c trim piece for the end of the run? Could you use a pair of c's in place of an h in the middle of long runs to deal with this?
I would ask how will I damage a panel 12' high up. What would be the difference if you damage a drywall ceiling. It would also **** to fix. Have you ever fixed vinyl siding, it's not fun. If you want something good it takes work there are no short cuts.
 

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I would ask how will I damage a panel 12' high up. What would be the difference if you damage a drywall ceiling. It would also **** to fix. Have you ever fixed vinyl siding, it's not fun. If you want something good it takes work there are no short cuts.
You would use a J channel and yes you could put two J Channels back to back.
 

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I would ask how will I damage a panel 12' high up. What would be the difference if you damage a drywall ceiling. It would also **** to fix. Have you ever fixed vinyl siding, it's not fun. If you want something good it takes work there are no short cuts.
Drywall is easy to patch. Ever done it?
 

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Drywall is easy to patch. Ever done it?
I have done alot of drywall infact my structure 24 x48 I did all the walls in drywall. Ever lift drywall to 12' ceiling and cut out for the light sockets by your self. I Span panels are a breeze for the 12' ceiling and it has a Class 1 A fire rating. alot lighter then sheets of drywall.
 

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I have done alot of drywall infact my structure 24 x48 I did all the walls in drywall. Ever lift drywall to 12' ceiling and cut out for the light sockets by your self. I Span panels are a breeze for the 12' ceiling and it has a Class 1 A fire rating. alot lighter then sheets of drywall.
Sounds good
 
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