I went out to my newest property and it's burned out!
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msharley
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Dang!
Old Man Roger
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Assuming this was just weeds?
CombatNinja
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Looks like whatever grew there can come back in a season. It'll buff.
OP
Pump house is gone, my trailer, all the electrical is gone, vintage truck canopy and all the fencing gone, not sure yet.
Forgottonia
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Wow, hard to believe a neighbor (apparently) would start a fire while welding a gate and then just leave. Maybe someone else started the fire later?
OP
Sheriff will call me Thursday so I can get the scoop.
Hobby_Man22
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Weld sparks are hot and easily ignite dead grass. Even if you water it down it still smolders so of he was welding for a while it may have gotten away from him while he was under his welding hood.
rayra
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Yup, OP should expect an invoice for 'land clearing services'.
eta apologies, didn't see there were actual losses, just saw pics of burnt scrub.
I would think the property owner where the welding took place would be on the hook for the material losses.
58Yeoman
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When I saw the pix, I too thought someone had done you a favor...until you stated what was gone. Hmmm...wasn't that a BRAND NEW trailer that you had just hauled in a week or so ago?
OP
Yes, the neighbors to my North gave me all the information and we exchanged contact information. Not sure why someone is welding this entrance as these two cul- de-sac don't connect.
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Oh that's really fd up and I'm sorry to hear that. Looking at the surrounding properties I thought it was barren land.
OP
It's all good!
Old Man Roger
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Sorry about the weeds comment, I hope you have insurance.
nadogail
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If your insurance does not cover you, will the weldors insurance?
Walkers
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If the welder was legit he will have a license, insurance, and a bond. Shouldn’t be any trouble to go after those.
Fortunately it did not turn into something bigger. In California it would likely burn for several months, where it then gains ‘protected’ status and can burn until it no longer feels like it.
Fortunately it did not turn into something bigger. In California it would likely burn for several months, where it then gains ‘protected’ status and can burn until it no longer feels like it.
mike93lx
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Bonds are to ensure a job is completed and wouldnt offer any coverage here
@930dreamer
I had the same initial reaction as others, but am sorry to see you lost stuff. Hope you are make whole.
retDAC
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If the pump house was all wood, okay, but where are the remnants of the other stuff? Did I merely miss seeing them?
Uncle murph
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Maybe the pics are of last years fire?
Damn that *****.
So the guy welding was hired by a property owner or he a property owner himself ?
So the guy welding was hired by a property owner or he a property owner himself ?
HoosierMark
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You say it is your newest property. My first thought is, was it known that you are now the owner? If not, I can understand that they did not contact you. But if your ownership is known that is altogether different. I will be watching for the rest of the story. Hopefully it will have a happy or at least satisfactory ending for you.
glend123
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Are there any before pics?
tez929rr
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We are in extreme drought conditions and have been fighting big brush fires all over the hill country. I have talked to our fire Marshall and the county Judge about trying to recover the expenses (several of these fires have had costs of $20K or more). It's harder than you might think to get the money out of insurers. Welders building fences have been the cause of two of the biggest fires and as long as they aren't breaking the burn ban rules they get off Scott free.
If the judge declares an emergency the rules will change but until then we are limited as to what we can do.
If the judge declares an emergency the rules will change but until then we are limited as to what we can do.
Walkers
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I’m not so sure, because clean up and damage mitigation is part of completing a job. Best to go after all of them and see which one pays.
tez929rr
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This is rural Texas. I’m not even sure where you would get a license. Insurance and a bond are not likely, either.
mike93lx
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Bonds are very rare and very expensive. I would never assume a job has one outside of big, commercial stuff
uratool
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Sorry for your loss 930!
Not telling you anything you don't know but looking at your pics - those fine fuels are explosive in low relative humidity/high wind days. You would hope that the folks living/working there are extra cautious.
Would imagine that your insurance company will be looking at making a claim on your neighbors insurance policy.....
Not telling you anything you don't know but looking at your pics - those fine fuels are explosive in low relative humidity/high wind days. You would hope that the folks living/working there are extra cautious.
Would imagine that your insurance company will be looking at making a claim on your neighbors insurance policy.....
danfromsyr
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right cause you know negligence is an accident
bet a judge would change their tune if it burned something they or their family held dear.
This thread is troubling to me because we have had terrible drought conditions for last 3 years. Last spring, our neighbour's DIY incinerator must have spit some sparks out and lit up the grass on his side of the fence. I got a call from neighbour on other side and came out to find the grass fire had come within a few feet of all of my parked vehicles and stored equipment. The fence was knocked down as obviously neighbour had come over to put out the fire. FAR too close for comfort. Really fell sorry for the OP as I was almost in his shoes - and when in dry rural areas always faced with grass/bush fire risk.
tez929rr
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If someone is welding and they are careless, it really is negligence and then we could try to recover from the property owner’s insurance, but if they are actually violating the law such as burning brush during a ban, insurance won’t pay. We would have to invoice them for the expenses and try to recover. Unfortunately, being stupid or careless isn’t against the law most of the time.right cause you know negligence is an accident
bet a judge would change their tune if it burned something they or their family held dear.
techkelly
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It's Texas, a private land owner can weld where ever he wants as long as there is no burn ban.
Under a burn ban in my county you need some kind of ire suppression near by and somebody on
fire watch.
The mobile welders are pretty good about being safe. It's the big city transplants that
are the problem. They buy a 2 acre lot and they are instant farmer/ranchers, never welded before
or have very little experience. That combined with 100 deg temps, 10% humidity does not end well.
The last big one, newbie welder managed to catch his neighbor's hay barn on fire. About fifty bales.
To those that have never seen a hay fire they burn as about as long as a Tesla fire.
Under a burn ban in my county you need some kind of ire suppression near by and somebody on
fire watch.
The mobile welders are pretty good about being safe. It's the big city transplants that
are the problem. They buy a 2 acre lot and they are instant farmer/ranchers, never welded before
or have very little experience. That combined with 100 deg temps, 10% humidity does not end well.
The last big one, newbie welder managed to catch his neighbor's hay barn on fire. About fifty bales.
To those that have never seen a hay fire they burn as about as long as a Tesla fire.
OP
Yup, we're in a burn ban.
Hooked
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A couple of those fires just west of you were a little to close for comfort for my nephew. His property is about half mile away.
Hope the OP can get some compensation to help with rebuilding things.
OP
Sheriff's office doesn't know anything.
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walta
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Is it just me but I don’t see any trailer axels in the ashes?
Was the trailer and property stolen and the fire set to hide the crime?
Walta
Was the trailer and property stolen and the fire set to hide the crime?
Walta