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protegeV

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That's very middle of the road pricing. I'm gonna have a hard time ever seeing HF as anything but a bargain basement retailer.
 

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This is just getting weird. I wonder if HF is just throwing brands out at random or if the really do have a strategy behind all this.
 

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If I was going to spend $7000 on a toolbox, I would have an incredibly difficult time spending it at Harbor Freight. With a tool truck brand, there's trade in and resale options, among other perks.
 

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ffs :-/
more brand names .
why the couldn't do a US Gen Pro series and just expand pitts pro line to wider range of quality hand tools and speciality tools beats me .
Should of done couple pro range boxes in 25 and 28" depth years ago and same for 56" and 72" hutches, people crying out for it ...
What the warranty on this stuff ! boxes might be fairly decent but cost about same as strictly toolboxes offerings and top end SPG and used truck boxes .
HF always going have stigma and lot of people very label conscious on boxes.
Hand tools be a hard sell as market flooded with midrange usual design/quality and unless do little better design features or price or easy warranty you not going do that well with a new brand with a pretty lame name and retail outlet .
 

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If I was going to spend $7000 on a toolbox, I would have an incredibly difficult time spending it at Harbor Freight. With a tool truck brand, there's trade in and resale options, among other perks.

To be fair $7k gets you a complete stack with s/s top, hutch, locker, overhead storage and side cabinet. And all this before coupons and discounts. I suspect these will be flying off the shelf during festive season and some 30% off.
 

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It's not a new catchy name that matters, it's the quality of the product that counts. They look nice in a flyer though.
I was happy for young auto techs when harbor freight came out with forty something inch cart as it's a great starter cart without plopping down a large investment or going into debt.
I'm not sure how demand they'll have for the icon tool storage walls they'll have though or if the icon items are even compatible with the latest carts they currently sell. I mean $7000 is still a lot of money for a Chinese made box :dunno:
As for the hand tools, I think Tekton has the advantage with their tools.
 

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I noticed that they are changing names on stuff too. I think they are doing that so they don't have to warranty stuff anymore. I took in some pittsburg snap ring pilers I bought years ago and end snapped off. Cost to much to send back for warranty but when store opened up close I took them back. Had Snap ring pilers look just like them different name but wouldn't exchange them because they weren't pittsburg. Guy in the store told me only had a life time warranty while they were still selling them. I think that they know what they are doing they will offer different names with lifetime warranty then change them so many years to get out of warranty.
 

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I noticed that they are changing names on stuff too. I think they are doing that so they don't have to warranty stuff anymore. I took in some pittsburg snap ring pilers I bought years ago and end snapped off. Cost to much to send back for warranty but when store opened up close I took them back. Had Snap ring pilers look just like them different name but wouldn't exchange them because they weren't pittsburg. Guy in the store told me only had a life time warranty while they were still selling them. I think that they know what they are doing they will offer different names with lifetime warranty then change them so many years to get out of warranty.

Sounds similar to what the electronics companies do for retailers as far as price matching. They'll sometimes make the exact same product but the Walmart, target, bestbuy, etc versions all have one different character in the model# so you can't price match. Ran into this a couple times with TVs and computers.
 

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Just retail farce.
I respect companies and products when can stick with a brand name and make effort it brand worth buying into.
Still amazes me they don't keep spare slides locks latches wheels and liners for current US Gen boxes. Minimal effort for the buyer/product and maximum effort on marketing farce .
 

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Not going to sell at Wharf Freight - plus at those prices you can get Made in USA boxes for what they want for some CHINA impostor stuff. Like the torque wrenches, you can get a Made in USA - CDI or similar for the same money.

I hope them tariffs happen as our country is AWASH in CHINESE junk and not even a level playing field.
 

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Looks like a quality box, but for $2,800 including stainless steel top, it's pushing into KRL722 territory (if you're able to time the promos). I'll gladly pay the extra $800 to buy a US made product that provides post sale support (local dealer quoted $3,600, but I decided to save for a 1022).
 
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Looks like a quality box, but for $2,800 including stainless steel top, it's pushing into KRL722 territory (if you're able to time the promos). I'll gladly pay the extra $800 to buy a US made product that provides post sale support (local dealer quoted $3,600, but I decided to save for a 1022).

Is that what the 722's go for new?
 

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I think what some people don’t realise is a) that these are very likely list prices, akin Snap On catalog which nobody in their right mind pays. And b) that GJ with its wealth of information and research is not the target audience. Average Joe the home owner with no access to tool truck or desire to haul second hand Snap On “bargain” from hundreds of miles away, will walk into his local store, see this solid quality toolbox at a discounted promo price and buy it. It’s not that bad to have some choice for a change.
 

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Well it looks nice but I haven't seen anyone pay list price for a truck box ever there is usually some kind of deal. I have a Snap On KRL 1022 (Master series large 2 bay) Hutch with plug and bulk end cabinet(the Half size locker) a Bedliner top and Cover. the box is Storm Grey. I bought it new for 6500 the drawer set up is custom (more deep drawers) They delivered it to my house no charge and put it together also. since I am the original owner it has Warranty. just wait for the right time and you can get a good deal. I do have a 25 year buying relationship with my dealer so that plays also
 

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To be fair $7k gets you a complete stack with s/s top, hutch, locker, overhead storage and side cabinet. And all this before coupons and discounts. I suspect these will be flying off the shelf during festive season and some 30% off.

....and it's only 25" deep,no thanks...:spit:
 
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One thing i notice is that with the new brand names, HF seems to want to exclude these new brand names from their coupon games. I wonder if this is the long term strategy to eliminate the bulk of these coupons as that tends to make HF like a cut rate outfit.

Personally I think HF would do more to their image if they improved upon their warranty policy. 3 months for instance is skimpy when you consider DeWalt may offer a 3 Year warranty on a power tool. Look at hand tools; having lifetime warranty for Pittsburgh pro makes it a lot more credible.
 

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One thing i notice is that with the new brand names, HF seems to want to exclude these new brand names from their coupon games. I wonder if this is the long term strategy to eliminate the bulk of these coupons as that tends to make HF like a cut rate outfit.

Personally I think HF would do more to their image if they improved upon their warranty policy. 3 months for instance is skimpy when you consider DeWalt may offer a 3 Year warranty on a power tool. Look at hand tools; having lifetime warranty for Pittsburgh pro makes it a lot more credible.
+1
but that takes good products, long term manufacture backup and a company who wants a credible quality product image and that simply not HF stratagy .
They simply mainly a wham bam retail farce interested in easy markup and outlandish advertising strategy .
Making most of better brands they already got and warranty improvements and some basic spares stocking would be huge plus but they simply not interested in that business model as more money in pushing new junk under new brands and flip you the middle finger after 90 days .
 

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People put alot of pressure on warranty, when I buy something that is the second to last thing I worry about personally. Things don't usually break until right after the warranty is up.

Regardless I'm sure it will be a quality box considering they have an MSRP similar to truck boxes but we all know they won't sell anywhere near that price. Probably half that
 

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People put alot of pressure on warranty, when I buy something that is the second to last thing I worry about personally. Things don't usually break until right after the warranty is up.

Regardless I'm sure it will be a quality box considering they have an MSRP similar to truck boxes but we all know they won't sell anywhere near that price. Probably half that

A Snap-on tool box has a life time Warranty to the Original purchaser. I have seen them in our shop replace worn casters, drawer slides and a 20 year old box for rusting in a non damaged area. we have several Tech that bought used Snap-on tool boxes and they still replaced the casters on it for free. We move our boxes a lot at work. the cheap boxes casters dont last and some the bottom of the boxes bend from the amount of weight and movement (a harbor freight and a Extreame have done this). Matco and Mac have also replace parts for tech with old boxes. with a investment like a tool box in our shop it is a consideration
 

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A Snap-on tool box has a life time Warranty to the Original purchaser. I have seen them in our shop replace worn casters, drawer slides and a 20 year old box for rusting in a non damaged area. we have several Tech that bought used Snap-on tool boxes and they still replaced the casters on it for free. We move our boxes a lot at work. the cheap boxes casters dont last and some the bottom of the boxes bend from the amount of weight and movement (a harbor freight and a Extreame have done this). Matco and Mac have also replace parts for tech with old boxes. with a investment like a tool box in our shop it is a consideration

Exactly why I always say the HF is great for the homeowner that has a lot of tools. In a pro setting, no way. Even told my son to plan on upgrading his HF if he goes to work in a shop/dealership.

Won't the Snap On dealers move your Snap On box if you change jobs as well, or is that a dealer choice thing for his customers?
 

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I would imagine these are a step above the extreme and HF. I've seen how beef the caster setup is on the HF 72s
 

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Exactly why I always say the HF is great for the homeowner that has a lot of tools. In a pro setting, no way. Even told my son to plan on upgrading his HF if he goes to work in a shop/dealership.

Won't the Snap On dealers move your Snap On box if you change jobs as well, or is that a dealer choice thing for his customers?

Some will move them for you. Mine moved mine to my house when I became a trainer and don't need a box at work. I have been a customer of his for 25 years
 

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these new boxes do look good. and sturdier some settings they will work good for but will they have repair parts for sale? Like I said earlier most people don't pay list for a new box anyway and you usually get full price paid in trade in Value if you go to a larger box with Snap-on. I am not saying the wont be great boxes in most enviorments.
 

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prices about 3rd of truck offerings so can't see it going much lower than advertised without coupon/sale .
Warranty only half the concern, parts support main issue, will you get replacement slides, drawers in 8yrs or at all !
 

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HF has replacement slides, locks etc. I know that for a fact are people just spouting random stuff?
 

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parts on the shelf ?
Nope, lot of faffing on the phone and maybe they turn up in 3 months if you do all the hard work of find part numbers .
Should have basic slides locks and the plastic spring latch on the shelf but haven't for years, they got very little interest in part support .
 

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parts on the shelf ?
Nope, lot of faffing on the phone and maybe they turn up in 3 months if you do all the hard work of find part numbers .
Should have basic slides locks and the plastic spring latch on the shelf but haven't for years, they got very little interest in part support .


Have you ever done it? Do you even own a HF box? I know it was super easy for me to get mine and it arrived in 4 days iirc, I didn't even pay a dime.

Why should they keep em on the shelf when they rarely go bad? I messed mine up on accident and the call was pleasant and took less than 5 mins
 

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My experience with slides and plastic latches for the 56" boxes we used on old airfield site totally different, never seen anyone get box spares in 4 days, months perhaps .
 

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Its a price tag designed to be occasionally discounted and used to bundle with sales and such. Initial sales are to get the public used to a better grade of product at a bigger price point. Start the in store inspections and other brand comparisons.

Moving uptown takes a different strategy than offering budget lines. HF has a mountain to climb to get there. They judt might do well too.
 

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Not gonna lie that looks like a pretty sweet setup.. thicker gauge steel than montezuma for about the same price. If I didnt just buy a new 72" toolbox I might have waited to check these out.
 

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Just retail farce.
I respect companies and products when can stick with a brand name and make effort it brand worth buying into.
Still amazes me they don't keep spare slides locks latches wheels and liners for current US Gen boxes. Minimal effort for the buyer/product and maximum effort on marketing farce .

I tend to agree. I like to see quality stuff competing and driving prices down but all the name changes and other nonsense is exhausting. MIT doesn't put a different trademark on every updated item they sell. HF seems to think their customers don't do any research at all. Maybe most don't?
 
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