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When I called in Snap-On rep said the RXFMS1012A part number has been replaced by RXFMS1012B and he is the one that put that part number in the RMA. He did it for one other item on that list as well. If you look at your old flare nut wrench set all of them end in A and they are all longer in length.


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Sounds legit. I retract and apologize for the defaming characterization.

If you would like a suggestion?

If you have a friend with a snap on account, ask them to warranty it for you.

If you are not able to do that, have a friend or relative send the tool in by mail with a different name and address then your previous contact. do a single tool at a time and you might receive the replacement as desired.
 
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Any update on what specific tools will be released first in May? I'm really interested in that set of SAE long ratcheting combo wrenches...
 

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I was in Harbor Freight today killing some time. They had ICON branded 1/2" breaker bars on display. $49.99...… I don't know how well that is going to go over. They looked better than the $10 ones though...
 

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I need a new 1/2 and 3/8 breaker bar. So I took a look at HF of course. The ICON items were no bargain. And ICON is excluded in the 20% coupons.
 

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I was in Harbor Freight today killing some time. They had ICON branded 1/2" breaker bars on display. $49.99...… I don't know how well that is going to go over. They looked better than the $10 ones though...


The plastic handles leave a LOT to be desired. Plus, their client base is not going to buying them as they cater to the 'Bucket-o-Tools' for 99 cents.



Plus, it will fail as they do NOT sell single individual sockets/wrenches they have to warranty from an entire package (that ain't going to work either). One would think they would have drawers with the INDIVIDUAL sockets/wrenches items if they were really going to market this.



Like most of this it is going to be a hard sell when they can buy a set of wrenches for $9.99 and these are going to be $99.99. Plus, getting into those prices (and who knows how long they will sell them) before they don't and people are stuck with them.


Do not see this being a big hit, just the wrong client/customer base.


 

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I wonder if there is find print, where only the head (ratchet and drive mechanism) is warrantied. I would be extremely surprised if they warranted them for being out of calibration.

In the user manual it states the calibration is only guarenteed for 90 days.
 

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I'm interested in the wrenches specifically ratcheting. I don't have a need just want to see what they're like
 

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The plastic handles leave a LOT to be desired. Plus, their client base is not going to buying them as they cater to the 'Bucket-o-Tools' for 99 cents.



Plus, it will fail as they do NOT sell single individual sockets/wrenches they have to warranty from an entire package (that ain't going to work either). One would think they would have drawers with the INDIVIDUAL sockets/wrenches items if they were really going to market this.



Like most of this it is going to be a hard sell when they can buy a set of wrenches for $9.99 and these are going to be $99.99. Plus, getting into those prices (and who knows how long they will sell them) before they don't and people are stuck with them.


Do not see this being a big hit, just the wrong client/customer base.



Well alrighty then. Tell us how you really feel
 

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I'm kinda excited for ICON. I'm a fan of mid-grade tools, where I believe you get the best bang for your buck. GW, Kobalt (R.I.P.), NAPA, Carlyte, etc...

I would really like to see ICON come out with individual sockets/wrenches in the future. I would definitely replace/fill in my sets with them.
 

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Who said what the pricing would be on these tools? Could be far less then some of the numbers you guys said... What if a set of these wrench's were 49.99 I think they would be a huge hit at that price
 

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Who said what the pricing would be on these tools? Could be far less then some of the numbers you guys said... What if a set of these wrench's were 49.99 I think they would be a huge hit at that price
At $49 for an Icon breaker bar, my guess is those tools are going to be big bucks

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I went to Harbor Freight yesterday to buy an Easy-Sorter funnel tray (made in USA) and look around.

I looked at the Icon breaker bars. They do look nice. Much nicer than the Pittsburgh Pro and the other brands that look similar (Carlyle...). With Coupon, they are $39.99. I do not see myself spending that kind of money on a tool from Harbor Freight. For $20 more, I can have a tool that is stamped USA.

I love the composite ratchets from HF. They are an amazing tool for the money. They have earned a spot in the drawer with my best ratchets. I only buy them when they are on sale and I use a coupon, though.

HF fills a role for me. I buy the best of their offerings on sale and with coupons. If the price starts to encroach on made in USA prices, I will go that direction. I rarely, in my life, use coupons. But when I buy from HF, I want to give them the least amount of money I possibly can.
What coupon did you have that was applicable to discount that Icon? I thought they were excluded on the normal 20% off?

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What coupon did you have that was applicable to discount that Icon? I thought they were excluded on the normal 20% off?

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In the March catalog from harbor freight, on page 12 there are three coupons for Icon breaker bars. You can get the all metal 25 inch model or the 25 inch long comfort grip version for $39.99 or the 18 inch all metal version for $35.99.
 

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In the March catalog from harbor freight, on page 12 there are three coupons for Icon breaker bars. You can get the all metal 25 inch model or the 25 inch long comfort grip version for $39.99 or the 18 inch all metal version for $35.99.
Good to know. I'm very curious on the socket pricing once they hit shelves.

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I looked at the Icon breaker bars. They do look nice. Much nicer than the Pittsburgh Pro and the other brands that look similar (Carlyle...). With Coupon, they are $39.99. I do not see myself spending that kind of money on a tool from Harbor Freight. For $20 more, I can have a tool that is stamped USA.

In one of the threads about the icon (maybe this thread) there is a link to a Proto USA 24" breaker bar for under $30.
 

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Sheesh even the trays look like Snap-On trays.

I really dont see myself shopping at HF as much as I once did. Prices are too close to name brand tools.
 
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Well the breaker bars showed up at our store.

To me they don’t look all that special, or any better than any Taiwanese breaker bar. Frankly they don’t look any better than some Chinese ones I’ve seen.
 

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Well the breaker bars showed up at our store.

To me they don’t look all that special, or any better than any Taiwanese breaker bar. Frankly they don’t look any better than some Chinese ones I’ve seen.

I was just at HF to see them for myself and I concur. Nothing special at all.
 

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I was just at HF to see them for myself and I concur. Nothing special at all.

Thing is they’re really expensive for it at that. I mean what’s the target market? They’re 2 inches longer than the new rounded Chinese craftsman ones at Sears but you can buy the 3 pack for $25 and I’ve seen them for $18. The construction quality doesn’t stand out as being that much better.

They exclude them from the 20% off.

I guess I don’t understand the target market. If I’m going to spend that much I’d just buy something better.

No sign of the other stuff yet. If this is indicative of the quality I can’t see the sockets being better than the Taiwanese Allied Pros I got 10 or so years ago.
 
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Wrong. I suddenly feel a lot better about paying the Snap On premium knowing that the guys in the warranty dept. screen out jokers trying to refresh old/inherited/garagesale tools. It surely helps keep the prices lower. Bravo Snap On Warranty Dept Man, you’re todays American Hero.

"keep prices lower".......Lol.
 

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Saw the ICON breaker bar yesterday, it looks very nice for sure. As mentioned by many the Pittsburgh pro that was next to it is $30 cheaper and looks nice as well. I normally don’t buy to many tools at Harbor Frieght, I use them for other small items. I have a mis match of a lot of tools but a lot of craftsman. Who knows what’s gonna happen with that name anymore these days. I will defiantly be interested in seeing what there ratchet line looks like.
 

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Thing is they’re really expensive for it at that. I mean what’s the target market? They’re 2 inches longer than the new rounded Chinese craftsman ones at Sears but you can buy the 3 pack for $25 and I’ve seen them for $18. The construction quality doesn’t stand out as being that much better.

They exclude them from the 20% off.

I guess I don’t understand the target market. If I’m going to spend that much I’d just buy something better.

No sign of the other stuff yet. If this is indicative of the quality I can’t see the sockets being better than the Taiwanese Allied Pros I got 10 or so years ago.
They're targeting the craftsman crowd that doesn't know that there's anything better but are still looking for something more then the cheap stuff they offer. I'm sure there are plenty of DIYers that like me go there to buy gloves, rags, mats, toolboxes and basics that are wear items you don't want to spend a lot on. But plenty of them might want something better for a tougher project they're trying to tackle. Wright, SK, and the like are not household names by any stretch of the imagination. I would bet you'll find more people who can recognize Husky or Kobalt before most any decent American brand. If what they're selling is craftsman/husky/cobalt quality and you're already there for the disposables there's plenty who will lay down the cash to avoid multiple stops. And if its as good as the brands I named it will be good enough for the average person who buys those brands, they can even do an on the spot price comparison to know they're getting better.
 

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Maybe HF is trying to expand its target market. They are trying to go for the SO market, and in that case, the icon price is a bargain as long as the quality is comparative.
 

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Maybe HF is trying to expand its target market. They are trying to go for the SO market, and in that case, the icon price is a bargain as long as the quality is comparative.

RTR compared the Icon torque wrench to the SO and said that the Icon was more precise and repeatable.
 

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INFAR is one of the manufacturers of the ICON and Carlyle tool lines. (correct??)

INFAR is headquartered in Taiwan, but one of their larger factories is located in Kunshan, China.

I put this bit of information out as a caution for the folks who are lead to believe that Taiwan tools are built to higher standards-------simply because they are made (or claimed to be made) in Taiwan.
So, You can be left wondering which factory Your tool actually came from??????

For Myself, I disfavor their copycat cloning of USA tool brands, and disregard what they claim as coo. I do not expect USA quality tools for the low prices. And the low prices would be the only reason I would buy certain ""cheapo"" tools or equipment in the first place.

I combine China, Taiwan, and India produced tools into ChiTaIwandia. See how simple things can be!!! I can pay USA prices for the tools I use most, and supplement them with less used ""cheapo stuff"" from Chitaiwandia. Life is great..
 
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Have the ICON combination wrenches hit the stores yet?

I'm curious to see how well they were able to copy Snap-on.

I would guess the reverse-engineering department of the manufacturer's company will alter the Snap-on design enough to enable it to snake under the US Customs Crew; thus avoiding the shipping container being seized and hauled to the smelter. :(
 

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I would guess the reverse-engineering department of the manufacturer's company will alter the Snap-on design enough to enable it to snake under the US Customs Crew; thus avoiding the shipping container being seized and hauled to the smelter. :(

I don't think they will ever be able to match a Snap-on combination wrench through and through. It has taken Snap-on a 100 years to perfect the combination wrench and they're not exactly giving away their secrets by holding a public classroom instruction.
 

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I don't think they will ever be able to match a Snap-on combination wrench through and through. It has taken Snap-on a 100 years to perfect the combination wrench and they're not exactly giving away their secrets by holding a public classroom instruction.

Yep; foreign look-a-like and wanna-be stuff.
 
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I don't think they will ever be able to match a Snap-on combination wrench through and through. It has taken Snap-on a 100 years to perfect the combination wrench and they're not exactly giving away their secrets by holding a public classroom instruction.

I don't think Snap on has perfected the combination wrench. They have however perfected the marketing of said wrench though.:wtf:

If i remember from seeing the Icon wrenches at SEMA, they look a lot like Carlyle long pattern wrenches.

You guys are funny. Icon tools are just another option like a selection on a buffet. They aren't going to replace snap on and no one in their right mind thinks they can get a snap on quality tool at harbor freight pricing. :bounce:

However, I believe it is possible to get an Icon fill in the blank tool that may serve you well day & day out just like Techs across the country are buying Carlyle for the same reasons one of which is price. a 10 piece combination wrench set shouldn't cost as much as it does on any tool truck today unless the dealer is turning them for me. :lol:

You guys need to give the endless sky is falling **** a break, let the tools come out and see what's what. Most of you guys are complaining about the tools or where they come from without ever touching one. :wtf:
 

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I don't think Snap on has perfected the combination wrench. They have however perfected the marketing of said wrench though.:wtf:

If i remember from seeing the Icon wrenches at SEMA, they look a lot like Carlyle long pattern wrenches.

You guys are funny. Icon tools are just another option like a selection on a buffet. They aren't going to replace snap on and no one in their right mind thinks they can get a snap on quality tool at harbor freight pricing. :bounce:

However, I believe it is possible to get an Icon fill in the blank tool that may serve you well day & day out just like Techs across the country are buying Carlyle for the same reasons one of which is price. a 10 piece combination wrench set shouldn't cost as much as it does on any tool truck today unless the dealer is turning them for me. :lol:

You guys need to give the endless sky is falling **** a break, let the tools come out and see what's what. Most of you guys are complaining about the tools or where they come from without ever touching one. :wtf:

This^^^
 

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I'm still trying to figure out if were talking about wrenches here or a fusion reactor.

HF already sells a set of polished combination wrenches are actually pretty good quality.

No doubt icon will come out with some that are "better"

if they aren't as good a snap on who cares?


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I don't think Snap on has perfected the combination wrench. They have however perfected the marketing of said wrench though.:wtf:

If i remember from seeing the Icon wrenches at SEMA, they look a lot like Carlyle long pattern wrenches.

You guys are funny. Icon tools are just another option like a selection on a buffet. They aren't going to replace snap on and no one in their right mind thinks they can get a snap on quality tool at harbor freight pricing. :bounce:

However, I believe it is possible to get an Icon fill in the blank tool that may serve you well day & day out just like Techs across the country are buying Carlyle for the same reasons one of which is price. a 10 piece combination wrench set shouldn't cost as much as it does on any tool truck today unless the dealer is turning them for me. :lol:

You guys need to give the endless sky is falling **** a break, let the tools come out and see what's what. Most of you guys are complaining about the tools or where they come from without ever touching one. :wtf:

It gets funnier: One of the local NAPA stores claims their Carlyle wrenches are Made by Snap-on, and Carlyle was making sockets and ratchets for Snap-on.
I heard this and similar claims during three separate conversations with their countermen. I politely informed their red faces all three times that Carlyle is a store brand; and is manufactured under contract by established tool manufacturers. Pair this vs the BS comparison tactics used by Harbor Freight. The upcoming Carlyle vs ICON debates should be a real hoot.... I am going to stock up on peanuts and popcorn; sit back, and enjoy.:beer:
 

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I'm still trying to figure out if were talking about wrenches here or a fusion reactor.

HF already sells a set of polished combination wrenches are actually pretty good quality.

No doubt icon will come out with some that are "better"

if they aren't as good a snap on who cares?


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:beer::beer: All should be well for the people who are satisfied with their budget minded purchases from HF, or any other retailer.. The good, better, and best sales tactics have existed for decades; so ICON would hopefully be a welcome addition to the HF lineup. The pure misfit in the HF advertising and conversations is Snap-on. Snap-on simply does not make or price wrenches or anything that fits the budget tool conversations. Snap-on and Elvis both have their share of impersonators. I enjoyed chatting with an impersonator, and called Him "Elvis" when shaking His hand. There was no cover charge, and the drink prices were reasonable. I knew He was not the real Elvis, and honestly wasn't quite as good;;; but I didn't care.:beer:
 

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Be interesting to see how this plays out. Lowes recently closed 20 stores and it's questionable how well their doing. HF is opening new stores everywhere.
Wonder how Stanley B&D will compete with them?

I'm sure they'll do fine. They're at Walmart, Ace, Fleet Farm, etc.
 

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Looking at those pictures is like looking at Snap On stuff but with an ICON logo. Am I the only one who sees a copycat of SO tools here? Jeez they could have altered the design a bit but no, even the font and marking positions are the same. I like better quality tools as much as the next guy but to model it 1:1 off Snap On? Meh.
If they are that good and are exactly like SO and there is no way they will not be much cheaper, why to you say "meh"? Do you have a vested interest in SO? Who cares if they knock them off. It is not like the shape of a wrench and where the stampings go is cutting edge technology. Another source for good tools at a decent price is a good thing.

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I saw in another thread someone said the Icon ratchets were in a recent ad. Anyone have a picture?
 
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