Icon tools are coming spring/summer 2019

[DSLTRK]

Easy.... Because Snap On’s current market will support that price point. No worries though, I think I read somewhere earlier that Snap On will be out of business sometime in late 2012.

Imagine them knowing I paid $250 bucks for this 1/2" metric deep set. Probably blow a gasket or something.

I find the whole thing hilarious, many people ***** about spending money on tools that will last the rest of your life, but flock to the stores for the next disposeable phone for $1000 bucks.

©FEDWRENCH

I just hope Snap On will survive till 2022, I mean all these Icon tools are just flying off the shelves and Snap On didn't make record profits this year, cough cough..

 

[bubinga]

The letter says the voucher will be emailed to me.

Yeah. I saw that On You tube.
They probably will, I'm sure!

 

[kctyphoon]

Easy.... Because Snap On’s current market will support that price point. No worries though, I think I read somewhere earlier that Snap On will be out of business sometime in late 2012.

And ive read somewhere that theres a sucker born every minute..
Wanna buy a snap on jack?

 

[Hiball]

And ive read somewhere that theres a sucker born every minute..
Wanna buy a snap on jack?

Nope.. And until the FJ series jacks show me something, My opinion will stand that the Daytona PRO is a better buy between the two jacks.

 

[kctyphoon]

Nope.. And until the FJ series jacks show me something, My opinion will stand that the Daytona PRO is a better buy between the two jacks.

The defense rests its case..

 

[Hiball]

The defense rests its case..

Eh.. Snap on never had a real strong presence in the lift world, the Publicity from the lawsuit didn’t do anything to strengthen it.. LOL In regards to there Hardline in house tools, they still have the logistics and marketing to control there market sector and still kill it. My gut tells me that The HF lCON line will do fairly good, regardless of what people think about HF, they are marketing geniuses. The ability to put hands on tools that are marketed to “Pro’s” (ewww.. the warm and fuzzy feeling knowing my tools are PRO) and still use a coupon is a winner. The Daytona (Non Pro) line of jacks is another brilliant marketing move, Take the same hydraulic design from the Old Pittsburg line, wrap it in a New frame, Add some New colors and New Price and people go nuts

In the End Competition is good for everyone.

 

[Mikeske]

Eh.. Snap on never had a real strong presence in the lift world, the Publicity from the lawsuit didn’t do anything to strengthen it.. LOL In regards to there Hardline in house tools, they still have the logistics and marketing to control there market sector and still kill it. My gut tells me that The HF lCON line will do fairly good, regardless of what people think about HF, they are marketing geniuses. The ability to put hands on tools that are marketed to “Pro’s” (ewww.. the warm and fuzzy feeling knowing my tools are PRO) and still use a coupon is a winner. The Daytona (Non Pro) line of jacks is another brilliant marketing move, Take the same hydraulic design from the Old Pittsburg line, wrap it in a New frame, Add some New colors and New Price and people go nuts

In the End Competition is good for everyone.

This is what I have been saying along and I agree with just about everything that you are saying. There is one thing about Snap-on that my gut is telling me is they will have to address the pricing issue that they have. Snap-on hard line tools are and have been way overpriced for my entire career and still is. I have turned wrenches since the 1970's and I never bought into the hype for some reason. I do have the common sized ratchets (all acquired via pawnshops) and yes they do make probably the best ratchets on the market but there is no way I was going to pay more then 25-100% over the priced of the next brand. When I originally bought my professional set of hand tools in 1983 I went with Bonney which even then was 50-60% less costly then Snap-on for basic hand tools. One day in the future Snap-on will have to address the price issue and the sooner the better. Country of origin is not the deal that it used to be as more and more of the general public is more accepting of items being made someplace else and price sensitive.

 

[Hiball]

This is what I have been saying along and I agree with just about everything that you are saying. There is one thing about Snap-on that my gut is telling me is they will have to address the pricing issue that they have. Snap-on hard line tools are and have been way overpriced for my entire career and still is. I have turned wrenches since the 1970's and I never bought into the hype for some reason. I do have the common sized ratchets (all acquired via pawnshops) and yes they do make probably the best ratchets on the market but there is no way I was going to pay more then 25-100% over the priced of the next brand. When I originally bought my professional set of hand tools in 1983 I went with Bonney which even then was 50-60% less costly then Snap-on for basic hand tools. One day in the future Snap-on will have to address the price issue and the sooner the better. Country of origin is not the deal that it used to be as more and more of the general public is more accepting of items being made someplace else and price sensitive.

I’m not going to say there won’t be a time that SO won’t make changes to there pricing, but highly unlikely it will happen when profits are still climbing. I get the whole pricing argument that runs rampant here. Its Borderline crazy... but then again I’m not in there target market pool and I don’t think they really care to capture the entire market. I think they are more than happy carrying that “exclusive” card.

 

[Strouty]

The people that buy snap on tools are very sensitive to where they are made. Snap on offers a decent import line that has the same warranty and dealer support (Blue Point), to me it is all about the warranty as I will inevitably break something. I try and buy the best tool for the money, snap on has some really nice tools, but I have a huge mix of tools, yes, even some harbor freight tools live in my epiq.

 

[DSLTRK]

It's the prestige of owning them. Same reason people buy Rolex watches, Dodge Hellcats, Ford Raptors and Gucci clothes. This is in addition to the other benefits that come with S/O.

"Well I can tell time just as well with my Casio, I can haul a cord of wood just as good with my Ranger and I certainly can be in public with my Costco pants."
If that ^^ is you, then Snap On isn't on the radar.

Until that prestige diminishes, no amount of 'Icon beats Snap-On' ads printed on rice paper is going to work to sway S/O Hardline tool buyers.

I'm pretty direct on my tool reviews. It's either good or ****, or meh, no matter the brand.

IMO I don't think the ICON brand is competitive considering the plethora of other import tools out there. As mentioned before, HF has a better value IMO with the Pittsburgh Pro line literally 5 ft away on the adjacent shelf.

 

[m6z]

Walk into a Sears and a Harbor Freight at approximately the same time on the same day. Harbor freight will have six times as many customers inside and those customers are actually buying goods. Sears is a damn ghost town in comparison and their everyday pricing is still insane when you realize that the COO is the same.

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[CafeTools]

Because harbor freight is actually innovating. They have so much more cutting edge items. It's quite refreshing to witness an excellent retail store.

 

[WittHay]

I think it's been regurgitated at this forum about 500 times, but HFs only claim In "beating" Snap On, is on PRICE against a similar featured SO product and nothing else.

It's fact they are correct 100% of the time.

People that want to pay $150 for an SO will do so, as those who want to pay $50 for the Icon

Whether the former is "better" than the latter would seem to be a moot point.

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The whole point of the HF Icon line is "tool truck" quality. Every Icon tool should be able to replace a US made product from Cornwell, Mac, Matco or Snap-on in a commercial garage

That is if you take this ad from HF's website at face value. The Icon brand couldn't just be about selling more tools to HF customers and not providing new innovative products to mechanics that buy from tool trucks

 

[CafeTools]

Does anyone know what and when more tools are coming to harbor freight? Maybe I should be passing but it's hard. It seems like just 2 weeks ago icon tools first appeared in store.

 

[Mechanical Noise]

I saw the ICON display at the local HF yesterday. A big meh. I can only judge what I could see and feel, of course, but I don't see much of a step up from Pittsburgh Pro. The plastic socket trays were excessively bulky for my taste and I'd much prefer a steel socket tray with a bale handle. The 1/4" drive ratchet felt OK but the larger ones felt a little backdraggy and clattery. Not terrible, but nothing special.

I agree with other posters that HF is missing an opportunity to serve premium customers if they don't offer an open stock of ICON sockets and wrenches. And an easy supply of ICON ratchet kits and toolbox parts.

 

[kctyphoon]

One day snap on guys will figure out their sockets are not made from diamonds.
Personally i like the idea of HF creating a “premium” line. It will tighten the gap of the debate - as SO people always default to HF offerings as the reason to why you MUST spend stupid money on simple items.
On the other side of the debate - if HF doesnt deliver something expected to compete with those items, i think they will immediately damage a brand name they hoped to promote. It really wouldnt take much to compete with a socket - but people would hope their only improvements arent just in appearance and packaging.

Whatever the case may be I’m willing to bet the ratcheting wrenches fly off the shelves. And I’m sure i wasnt the only one happy that hf basically proved how predatory SO was with the pricing on their jack. HF couldn’t have bought better press than SO launching a lawsuit against them.

 

[rijndael]

Whatever the case may be I’m willing to bet the ratcheting wrenches fly off the shelves.

Agreed. I already bought a set and ditched my GW spline wrenches.

 

[kctyphoon]

Agreed. I already bought a set and ditched my GW spline wrenches.

If they run a good sale I might pick up a set. I honestly dont even use my tools a lot at home anymore, and i have a few sets of cheap ratcheting wrenches already - my newest being my reversible dewalts ( $50 on sale). I’d be more comfortable using the ICONs knowing that if one breaks i have an actual store to go back to.

 

[rijndael]

If they run a good sale I might pick up a set.

I used the 10% off anything coupon.

 

[CafeTools]

The ratcheting wrenches are very nice. They are very long though. I got the anti slip feature where ever I could with all my icon wrenches.
I have: regular set of ratcheting wrenches, stubby ratcheting, regular set of wrenches with no skips in sizing, and then JUMBO set of wrenches. All metric of course.

 

[930dreamer]

I picked up the Icon 3/8" drive metric socket set.

 

[bubinga]

One day snap on guys will figure out their sockets are not made from diamonds.

LOL...................Too Funny

 

[wafrederick]

A recall on the 3/8 drive flex head ratchets,locking up.Take it in and get a better replacement

 

[WittHay]

^Except the recall is on their Icon premium line. I suppose HF could order in a Taiwan GearWrench to replace the Icon.

They cant order in or sell a US made replacement, because that would go against everything HF and its owner stands for

 

[bubinga]

I used the 10% off anything coupon.

Yeah, It works online too, I added it to my cart and tried,
I'M TEMPTED!
(attached, in case you don't have it)

 

[unslow1]

I know it's off topic, but here in southern CA resale value on BMW is ridiculously low. The same goes for Audi and Mercedes, too. A quick search of craigslist backs that up.

Same here. They are nearly worthless used for a reason.

 

[Downwindtracker 2]

Icon better than as Snap-On ? I sure hope not, can you imagine all the angsts this would wreck in auto repair business, all the mechanics discovering they have been swindled ! For a dime on the dollar no less. The suicides and marriage breakups ,certainly if the wives found out. The whole industry would collapse.

Joking aside, the bar that Snap-On and others have to be better than keeps getting raised. When I started pulling on wrenches, it wasn't that difficult.

 

[Strouty]

So are they only selling sets of sockets and wrenches or are they selling individuals too?

 

[Mikeske]

So are they only selling sets of sockets and wrenches or are they selling individuals too?

If you have noticed it has been mentioned several times and it is at this time Icon is only being sold in sets

 

[mudflap]

So are they only selling sets of sockets and wrenches or are they selling individuals too?

The 2 stores near me are just selling sets..With the addition of the ICON line, it looks like they are pinched for space. They need to get rid of all the different brand names. Get rid of Quinn..that would make some space. They should just go with Pitts Pro and ICON. They need singles if they want to run with the big dogs.

 

[Fedwrench]

The 2 stores near me are just selling sets..With the addition of the ICON line, it looks like they are pinched for space. They need to get rid of all the different brand names. Get rid of Quinn..that would make some space. They should just go with Pitts Pro and ICON. They need singles if they want to run with the big dogs.

Yes, I feel open stock is essential to the sustainment of the ICON line but, I think harbor freight will trim its offering to Pittsburgh, Quinn, & ICON under the good, better, best tiers.

 

[DSLTRK]

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[Brownsfan]

The Quinn line is a joke. Poor HF bastards probably paid $200000 in tooling costs. Quinn isn't better than Pittsburgh it's identical.

No. It Quinn has th red and blue line at the bottom of the socket . Pittsburgh doesn't. That's worth the 4 dollar price difference

 

[DSLTRK]

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[milwaukeephil]

A recall on the 3/8 drive flex head ratchets,locking up.Take it in and get a better replacement

3/8 flex head is gone from the website!

 

[bubinga]

3/8 flex head is gone from the website!

LOL

 

[1982fxr]

The Quinn line is a joke. Poor HF bastards probably paid $200000 in tooling costs. Quinn isn't better than Pittsburgh it's identical.

They don't make anything, I'd think the tooling costs are put into the price when the factory sells to hf and whoever else the world over.

They probably already know when they'll kill the Icon line, whenever they expect mass returns from regular users. 2 years, 4 years, whatever.

 

[Steve_P]

LOL...................Too Funny

You could've said this every day SO has been in business. But people keep paying their ridiculous prices. Icon won't have any affect on SO. Just like they keep selling Ferraris even though you can get 90% the car for half, or less, the $ from other brands. Logic does not apply

Edit: oops, lost the main part re sockets not made of diamonds in the quote

 

[Bigblue&Goldie]

SnapOn has no reason to lower their prices; they are the benchmark of the industry. There are always people willing to pay a premium for the best. Ferrari's keep going up in price, regardless of how many Honda Civics are sold each year. The same can be said about Rolex, Leer Jets, and every other "high end" brand. There is a reason the lesser brands are always trying to compare themselves to their industry benchmark.

 

[DSLTRK]

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