ID this english vice

[newchris]

I cant make out the manufacturer, any ideas? Value?

 

[Canadian Charlie]

Looks like a Record vice

 

[dazcapri]

looks like a record but not 100% sure

 

[bl00]

Sticker on the front says Handy. I've seen a similar vise with Handy cast into the side, but I don't know if it was the maker or the model name.

 

[bl00]

Here's the pic from this site

 

[Bigplum]

Other English makes are Woden and Paramo but are normally cast into the body
Record was the major manufacturer .
Could you post what letters are visible on the decal ?

 

[Van Steele]

Parkinsons.

Seems to be their lesser known line, compared to their "Perfect Vise" and "Samsonia" lines.

 

[Bigplum]

The decal on the rear of the vice seems to end with " ity" , maybe quality ?

 

[newchris]

I believe it says "Another High Quality Product"

 

[drivesitfar]

it did look like a Record especially with the #3 on it, but the last image you posted does say Parkinson and it looks like "Handy" is their model #.

nice old vise. selling or buying it?

 

[newchris]

selling, trying to get an idea of what its worth

 

[drivesitfar]

where are you located? as is price, or are you planning on any cleaning or a full restoration? it looks like it has all the parts. i'm guessing by the 3 on the side in the cast that it's a 3 inch wide jaw on that vise? does it swivel because hard to tell if it has that option? how many pounds does it weigh?

 

[newchris]

its actually 4", not sure why it says 3 on the side. Probably 30 or so pounds. It swivels and nothing is cracked. The teeth on the jaws arent too badly mangled either. Danbury, CT

 

[drivesitfar]

since i'm on the other side of the US I don't know your market as well as mine, but those European vices are fairly rare over here. i'd say clean it up and see what your competition is and pick a price and put an ad on Craigs and see what a buyer will pay you. what price are you thinking of asking for it?

 

[newchris]

i was hoping to take 100 or so as is

 

[drivesitfar]

use a rag and some simple green to take some of the dirt and grease off and you'll have a better chance. the guys carrying $100 bills in their pockets don't always show up wanting to get their hands or cars dirty.

good luck

 

[PCO6]

its actually 4", not sure why it says 3 on the side. Probably 30 or so pounds. It swivels and nothing is cracked. The teeth on the jaws arent too badly mangled either. Danbury, CT

It's fairly common for English vices to be numbered and for that number to not coincide with the jaw width. My Record No. 3 also has 4" jaws. My No. 4 has 4.5" jaws.

 

[bluebolt]

IMHO $100 is a stretch for that vise. Most guys want a USA vise, a similar #3 Record 4" jaw vise is SELLING for $70-100 on Ebay INCLUDING shipping. Were I local I would go about $60 if I wanted it for my collection. The sticker instead of a raised brand name hurts too.

 

[richfinn]

Joseph Parkinson's In Shipley, Bradford, West Yorkshire did make a line of Vice called the "Handy". Mostly built for machinery repair connected to the textile trade.

I live close to the old factory

 

[Fretters]

Parkinson's are a good quality vice. My personal favourite of the English manufacturers. Does look fairly light weight compared to their main ranges though, so I wouldn't be expecting too much for it, unless English vices command good money over there? £25 to £30 is the absolute maximum I would go to for something like that, (but saying that, I am a tight arsed Yorkshire git ).

This is a Perfect Model F No. 7, for example, with similar jaw size.

Their main ranges were of substantially heavier build. The rotating base may add an extra bit for some, but not something I'd personally ever pay more for.

Also, I'd personally go against the advice to tart it up any. I always go for stuff which hasn't been fiddled with, in any way or form. Don't mind how crappy something looks, as long as it's original crappy. Items with fresh paint jobs, for example, are something I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. I like to know the good and the bad of what I'm buying when I buy something. When something has been tarted up in any way or form, my first thought always tends to be to wonder why.

 

[drivesitfar]

Fretters: you have some mighty nice vises sir. so tell me what you would sell that Parkinson vice for that you just posted a picture of?

 

[tedsters]

Parkinson's are a good quality vice. My personal favourite of the English manufacturers. Does look fairly light weight compared to their main ranges though, so I wouldn't be expecting too much for it, unless English vices command good money over there? £25 to £30 is the absolute maximum I would go to for something like that, (but saying that, I am a tight arsed Yorkshire git ).

This is a Perfect Model F No. 7, for example, with similar jaw size.

Their main ranges were of substantially heavier build. The rotating base may add an extra bit for some, but not something I'd personally ever pay more for.

Also, I'd personally go against the advice to tart it up any. I always go for stuff which hasn't been fiddled with, in any way or form. Don't mind how crappy something looks, as long as it's original crappy. Items with fresh paint jobs, for example, are something I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. I like to know the good and the bad of what I'm buying when I buy something. When something has been tarted up in any way or form, my first thought always tends to be to wonder why.

Fretters Welcome to GJ

thats a very nice vise what would one cost like that where you are located

 

[Fretters]

The prices I tend to see on Ebay vary quite a bit. Sometimes they may go for as little as £30 or so, or up around the £100 mark. Dealers tend to list them closer to the £200 mark. For some reason, the Parkinson's/Samsonia's seem to be less desired by most than say the likes of Record. Quality wise though, I personally rank the Parkinson best.

That one of mine, I had given a few years ago. Went to visit an acquaintance, and he asked if I wanted it before it got skipped. You can obviously guess what my response was. He'd hardly finished the sentence before it was in the truck.

 

[toomanytoyzz]

he asked if I wanted it before it got skipped. D

By "skipped", I'm assuming you mean trashed or recycled? When I hear someone say it got skipped in the US I think it was passed over.

 

[Fretters]

Aye, as in chucked in a waste skip for disposal.

 

[toomanytoyzz]

Aye, as in chucked in a waste skip for disposal.

I like the term waste skip. Gonna use it to annoy my wife from now on.

 

[drivesitfar]

Fretters that was one helluva a save and thanks a ton for the English lesson. so you get all your vices for 30 pounds and sell them for closer to 200. sounds like a decent return even if it was in dollars.

keep posting those cool old vises as you discover them.

Toomany your wife will cut you off of GJ or worse Craigslist so bee careful.

 

[Fretters]

I personally never sell any of my vices. Me parting with any tool I've acquired is a very infrequent occurence, and then only out of absolute necessity, usually space related. If the shed really was a Tardis, space wise, as I occasionally appear to think it is, I'd part with none.

 

[richfinn]

So what do you call a "Skip" in the USA?

I googled "dumpster" but that's just a big "wheelie bin" in England

 

[John Mc]

Skips to you, dumpsters to us are measured in cubic yards, from 10 to 40. Usually steel, from about the size of a Rover up to a substantial lorry, in your parlance.

Most are not on wheels, the smaller ones are emptied into a larger truck, or the larger ones are swapped out with a flatbed loader.

 

[Fretters]

So what do you call a "Skip" in the USA?

I googled "dumpster" but that's just a big "wheelie bin" in England

Glad I'm not the only one who couldn't figure that out. I thought dumpsters were just the equivalent of our commercial/industrial wheelie bins too.

Skips to you, dumpsters to us are measured in cubic yards, from 10 to 40. Usually steel, from about the size of a Rover up to a substantial lorry, in your parlance.

Most are not on wheels, the smaller ones are emptied into a larger truck, or the larger ones are swapped out with a flatbed loader.

So when you use the term "dumpster diving", it actually means the same as our "skip diving/delving", and not just nosing around in someones rubbish, (trash), bin?

 

[toomanytoyzz]

Toomany your wife will cut you off of GJ or worse Craigslist so bee careful.

Bite your tongue!! You'd probably hear my whimpers from your side of the country if that was to happen.

I love the differences in certain words even when saying the same one. Next time you meet a person from England ask him/her to say aluminum. I work with a girl from London and I ask her to say it all the time for a quick laugh. I must have asked her what she said about five times when she first told me where I should put my aluminum can to recycle.

 

[drivesitfar]

I bet the Austrailian and New Zealand and maybe the South African's have the same pleasing accent. don't you love the words that the English speak that we English speaking Americans have no idea what they just said?

I have watched several English movies in the comfort of my home and always have to have the remote close by to rewind and hear what was said or try to understand some of the phrases. Takes me about 3 to 4 hours to watch a 2 hour movie.

Fritters I love reading your posts and looking at that old English steel you own so keep up the good work and keep adding a word now and then that we have no idea what you meant.

NO CRAIGSLIST might cause a real stir in my world too or even worse if Craigs starts charging like Ebay to list and sell little or big things. let's cross our fingers because a lot of old nice tools and machines have been saved from the dump and scrap yards.

No teasing the bride is my rule.

 

[Fretters]

I love the differences in certain words even when saying the same one. Next time you meet a person from England ask him/her to say aluminum. I work with a girl from London and I ask her to say it all the time for a quick laugh. I must have asked her what she said about five times when she first told me where I should put my aluminum can to recycle.

Good job it's a Southern lass you work with. A Northern lass would likely have given you alternative suggestions as to where to place that can after having to say aluminium several times. Btw, it's you chaps who spell it incorrectly.

Fritters I love reading your posts and looking at that old English steel you own so keep up the good work and keep adding a word now and then that we have no idea what you meant.

I think I can manage that.

 

[toomanytoyzz]

Good job it's a Southern lass you work with. A Northern lass would likely have given you alternative suggestions as to where to place that can after having to say aluminium several times. Btw, it's you chaps who spell it incorrectly.