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jeepman1

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hey guys, im looking at new garage doors. ive got a buddy that works at menards, so i looked at the ideal doors. specifically i looked at the premium value stamped steel carraige house doors, with the urethane insulation.
does anybody have any experience with these doors? they say that they are american made so that seems like a plus, but before i spend 3g on two doors, i just want to make sure im getting quality.

thanks in advance for any thoughts or opinions!

jeep
 
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oilslick

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Go 5 stars and expect them to have damage when You arrive at store also figure on a part or two missing! Saving money costs time at menards .
 

84944Redline

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Yes, expect a few scratches and/or dents - but use that as justification to get a discount. I didn't have anything missing, but the mfg. will likely send parts for free. The torsion spring is easy to install and adjust.

I love mine - with an R value of 17.2, they definitely outperform my old doors! And considering the sale price I paid - can't complain at all.
 

The Maxx

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My door was just fine. No dents or dings.

Installed well and works good.
 

Gary S

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I installed an Ideal door on a garage that I built back in 1992. It is still working perfectly today. I built another garage in 2004. I installed 2 Ideal doors on this one. Neither of them has ever had any issues either.
The great thing about Ideal doors is that they now use the torsion springs, and have a gearcase built in to wind them up, so they are totally safe to install and remove. You simply attach your variable speed drill to the gearcase and let it wind and unwind the springs for you.

Until the high priced door manufacturers catch up to Ideal on springs, I'd buy only Ideal doors.
 
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jeepman1

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thanks guys! my bro inlaw used to install garage doors, so ive already got his approval. he also is guiding me through the process... i just wanted to make sure i wasnt making a mistake.

the doors are 15% off this week so i had planned on ordering them.... also i will make sure i open them up to make sure they are not damaged.... thanks in advance for that tip.
 

justin1795

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i got a ideal door from menards and it was fine. i had to order it and went with a trailer to go get it. the lazzy people wouldnt bring it out so i had to back my trailer threw the buildings.
 
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charb48

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Jeepman,

I had an Ideal installed and the contractor got it from Menards also. mine is a 4 Star Select Steel Carriage Door, 9' wide. I was thoroughly happy with the door UNTIL the bottom seal froze to the cement and the 2 spot welds broke at the top of the door behind the opener reinforcing as the opener was trying to open it and created a kink in the top of the door. Menards referred me to Ideal and Ideal considered the freezing an "Act of God" and therefor was not covered by their warranty. If your in a climate where the freezing might happen, I recommend installing the support strut also sold at Menards to prevent the kinking of the door. I also read that silicone spray or original ArmorAll on the seal will prevent the freezing. I tried the ArmorAll and it seems to work.
 

tklockwood

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I am glad that many of you have had good experiences with Ideal Door, but unfortunately my experience is very bad. I recently bought three of their highest R value doors in a 9 by 9 size. They were shipped on a giant pallet with a 16 foot door on the bottom for someone else. This caused Menards to store it outside at the top of their pallet racking to allow for the crazy length. Menards sent me a notification that my doors were there as soon as they came in. I come in and find them up on top of this racking and after it took a couple of people to get them down without dropping/bending them, they basically said, "Go ahead, unpack it and load it in your truck." I started unpacking it and discovered that it was actually three different orders. Lovely. So they send people out to help me and we loaded all that would fit in my truck. One of the guys says "Let's call it a night. You come back tomorrow and we will have it all sorted out." Yeah. I come back the next day and all they have done is stick the pallet back up on the top of the racking. So more forking it down and trying to sort through it. What a mess. Now admittedly, the Menards goofs were not IdealDoor's fault but the packaging was. But I had my doors so I left. Now I had ordered a lot of options. The 9 by 9 size, considered to be a tall door, High lift track, High R value, W1 wind rating, etc. I start assembling the first door and I am confused by the seeming lack of high lift. It looks pretty much like any other door. I compared it to my other 2 garages and the new door's tracks are about 6-8 inches higher than my standard doors. Not exactly the 14" I was supposed to get. So I just keep going and get that first door up against the wall, tracks all installed, etc. I go to install the torsion springs and the cables are hilariously long. They wrap more than four times around the hubs before they even take up the slack. This places the cable right up against the edge of the door so it will be in constant contact with the door, scratching it and making excessive noise. Neither of my other doors are like that either.

These are "High Lift" hubs that are configured differently than normal hubs. The first couple of winds around the hub are a larger diameter than the rest of the hub is. I found an explanation on-line that says that this larger diameter section is used to get the door started and once it is moving and starting to transfer some of it's weight to the horizontal part of the track the cable will now be on the smaller diameter of the hub for the rest of the lift. Well, since my cables literally wrap around the hubs 4 times before taking up the slack, this High Lift hub is effectively a normal hub because that larger diameter space is already used by the extra cable before the door moves.

Ideal Door says this is all as it should be, The lift (or lack of) is normal, the excessively long cable, the multiple wraps on the high lift hub, all of this is as designed and they have nothing they can do for me. There is no offer of advice indicating maybe I have done something wrong, or there is a work around, or... anything. Pretty much too bad for you. They did indicate that I probably want a 21" lift and that this can be ordered from Menards. One thing for sure is I am not giving them any more of my money.

And I still have two more of these doors to install.

I have a local garage door professional coming out to see this mess and help me figure out where to go from here. If he can supply the parts to get these doors installed properly I will pay him to finish this garage door install and sell me the extra parts so I can finish the other two the same way on my own.

I wish my experience was similar to the others on here, but all I can say is buyer beware. These guys have shown no interest whatsoever in helping me get the right parts for these doors.
 
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swaterbenny

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I have 5 ideal doors, had a few damaged panels, but just emailed ideal and sent a few pictures. They delivered to menards and I exchanged.

I have 3 high lift, 2 normal and all 5 are dual spring wound by bar. Be prepared for a workout.

Easy to install of you are mechanical.

I got 5 star doors which are nice because they have steel on the inside, mine are only like 1-3/8" thick.
 

mikegt4

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I installed Ideal insulated doors 8 years ago and I am quite satisfied with them. They arrived in perfect condition and were easy to install. IIRC, I got them around this time of the year during a 15% off sale.
 

Innovate1

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Interesting. I punched in my sizes and other details and it is quite a bit cheaper than the local place even considering the cost of install (included in local bid). 9 x 8 with high lift and 12 x 12. R17. Added one strut for the top of each (wonder if I should do more...). The large door is where there is a big difference.

Cost is 1290 and 2071 compared to 1665 and 3241. Not sure the local bid included insulated glass - need to check.

And I hope to get them on sale - at least the 11% which would make it a better deal and then $99 for delivery.
 

loganb

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No experience with Ideal myself, when I bought my 18' double for my last garage I ended up with an Amarr as that was brand that had the local dealer and service. I happened to know the service guy and asked one night while at a local watering hole what brands he serviced the most and he said without hesitation that it was Ideal and that "fancy" DIY adjustable spring tensioner. Said it sounded good on paper and may work for awhile, but those caused vastly more service work for them then anything else, and when they break they were a pain and generally expensive. Since it was paying work he didn't mind....but the price difference for me to have the local company do it was less than $300
 

scottydosnntkno

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Ideal is the same/owned by clopay.

We bought four of the ideal handcrafted doors from menards, and when we had an issue with the overlay they flew a clopay factory tech out to fix it, and he left us with a corporate clopay manager card if we had any issues in the future
 

Bolson32

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It's probably important to note that this is an 8 year old thread.

With that said, I have stupid expensive steel overlay doors on my house and I'm going to go with the ideal custom design to match. I'll put up with the hassle to save $1500.

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