Ideal layout for 50x60ish garage

[kberjian]

I am going to be building a toy workshop this year and wanted to get some opinions on a few things.

First is the size, I have plenty of space on my acreage (6 acres) so there are no hard limits on length or width. I do want to have storage for at least 6 vehicles in it. I plan on having a 2 post lift installed. I will also be having a second level built up in one part of it to hold my snooker table and a projector area (golf simulator as an option). I am thinking 50x60 based on my first layouts as it has the room I need to get everything in there and will be in the price range I am wanting. I also have a 53' insulated shipping container that I will be placing just behind the shop (opposite wall of overhead door).


Second is layout. Specifically the overhead door, and mezzanine. I can either run it on the back wall or the side wall. The area under it will be all benches and large tools (english wheel, planishing hammer, band saw, bench grinder, welding area, etc). Part storage will be primarily in the shipping container out back.



Third is schedule. Current plan is to have a contractor erect the building non-insulated this fall, I will complete the electrical myself this year to get lights setup. Next spring I would pour all concrete flooring. After the concrete is complete I would build the mezzanine. Sometime in the future I will be insulating it by putting batting in the walls covered by plastic, and then drywalling the lower 8' all around and up top of the mezzanine. Anyone see any major issues with it?

PS: Here are a few of the toys that will be getting a better home. 1929 Willys Whippet with a 400 hp 4 cyl mounted in the trunk. 2004 Dodge Neon SRT-4 with 76mm turbo setup for Bonneville Salt Flats (if it ever doesn't get rained out).

 

[lakeroadster]

Just going to be doing clean work in the new shop? No grinding or hot work?

 

[kberjian]

Most dirty work will be under the mezzanine. I do plan on having an exhaust fan setup in the metal working area underneath which will hopefully contain the dust a fair bit. The mezzanine would just be have railing around it and for dust issues I will probably just cover the pool table and finished vehicles.

Suggestions?

 

[lakeroadster]

In my experience you need a clean area.. and a dirty area, walled off from each other if you plan to have finished vehicles, or finished anything, that you want to keep clean.

Maybe something like this....

 

[kberjian]

Have you guys ever tried hanging industrial curtain dividers like these before? I think they should contain the dust but still be easy to open and close to move things in and out. Also more cost effective than a wall. I would run them floor to ceiling. Also would get a fire resistant material.

 

[kberjian]

In case anyone is wondering here is a quote comparison between the various companies around here. Also some of the budgeting. And a new updated layout.

 

[Bighead38]

We need a thread on that Willys ASAP.

 

[lakeroadster]

As we learned from Neal Young... "Dust Never Sleeps".

Heck even with a wall the grinding dust still gets into the other bays..

 

[ZRX61]

You'll regret the upstairs pool table the first time a ball over over the edge & hits a car...

 

[kberjian]

We need a thread on that Willys ASAP.

I have a build thread at another forum if you want to check it out.

https://forums.finalgear.com/post-your-car/1929-willys-whippet-mid-mount-turbo-56129/

 

[pmiranda]

I would have at least two doors.
Personally I'm leaning toward two 16' wide ones so I can get 4 cars in and out without moving anything else... although the idea of a center aisle you keep clear and use to access parking and working stalls seems really nice... I might have to see if I have enough room to do that in my plans...

 

[kberjian]

You'll regret the upstairs pool table the first time a ball over over the edge & hits a car...

That is a fear.... I have a 4.5x9 table in my house and have only had a few balls go off the table. I am thinking a solid wall around the mezz up to usual handrail height. Would help with errant golf balls as well from the simulator.

First picture shows the yard layout and I drew a blue line that is the 100' offset I need to leave from edge of property. The red rectangle is location of the shop. The second pictures shows the power line relocate first thoughts I am giving to Fortis. Last is google earth of the yard showing the trees existing on the land. PS: the pond isn't usually that green, bad timing on the image!

 

[pmiranda]

We have a pool table upstairs in our house and errant balls haven't made it downstairs yet. The carpet seems to slow them down fast enough, but if somebody fired a trick shot it could go right over the railing... Something we probably need to address soon with a preteen in the house!

 

[kberjian]

I finally have all permitting in place and my building is starting in the next few weeks. I will be having the earthworks starting next week, with the building going up in mid April. I am excited it is finally becoming real!

 

[kberjian]

Question for the site gurus, I am evaluating between using chip board/paint, drywall/paint, or metal. Concerned about the following, light reflecting, sound deadening, appearance, usability (fastening shelving, etc) and fire resistance. I will be doing some welding/grinding, minor wood work, and storage. Thoughts?

 

[rburke65]

Metal for the ceiling....fast and done. Already painted, reflective. Walls? You can use the metal also or just metal in the welding area. Individual choice.