ideals REbranded Channellocks

[jontar]

Hi

I recently purchased a new set of Ideal 35-460 I'm convinced their are rebranded Channellocks


http://www.idealindustries.ca/products/prodSelect.php?prodId=35-460

http://www.channellock.com/460-Straight-Jaw-Plier.aspx

They even re-used the 460 in the product code.

 

[jeffmoss26]

Looks like it to me. Same thing with Cornwell and Blue-point but with orange and red grips, respectively.

 

[TwoInch]

and?

 

[Fedwrench]

Why would ideal use channellock when they own western forge?

Look at the new Ideal owned SK pliers, all from western forge.

 

[jontar]

No idea, I'm just saying they look alike. I'm 99% sure they are re-branded

 

[jeffmoss26]

Looking at the SK site, their tongue and groove also look like Channellock (exposed fastener) vs WF (flush fastener)

 

[sk farmer]

sadly, i don' think a lot of the pictures that mfg's use are accurate. in this day and age of simple digital photo shop you would think it would be real easy to use current items for pics. i beleive sk for one has used a lot of older pics on their website as well as many other mfgs. what you see in the picture may or may not be what you get.

 

[SMKS]

sadly, i don' think a lot of the pictures that mfg's use are accurate. in this day and age of simple digital photo shop you would think it would be real easy to use current items for pics. \

+ one billion

There are tons of incorrect pictures and descriptions on tool websites and in tool catalogs.

For example, the Williams catalog and website still says the round-head ratchets use the old dual-pawl Superratchet mechanism. In reality, they switched to a new single-pawl design years ago.

 

[kc-steve]

sadly, i don' think a lot of the pictures that mfg's use are accurate. in this day and age of simple digital photo shop you would think it would be real easy to use current items for pics. i beleive sk for one has used a lot of older pics on their website as well as many other mfgs. what you see in the picture may or may not be what you get.

I think it is lazy web designers. I'm a designer but not lazy.
The companies probably have no idea, or care.

Steve

 

[Brownsfan]

Did you notice 460 is even in ideals part number. I say it's re branded

 

[stonesfan68]

Looking at the SK site, their tongue and groove also look like Channellock (exposed fastener) vs WF (flush fastener)

The catalog description makes mention of the "knife to anvil" cutting edges as well, just like Channellock. I guess that SK decided that the Ideal pliers were worthy of the SK name.

 

[Joe B.]

Don't forget that Ideal has only owned Western Forge (and SK) for a couple of years. Ideal probably had a multi-year contract with Channellock and even when that runs out they would still need to support their retailers for a few years until they blow through all of the inventory in stores.

 

[Subyroo651]

While sort of on the topic, does anyone know who makes these for Cman?

 

[jzt]

I've seen those branded as channellock and Blue point(PRH57A).

I own the channellock version.

 

[Roots]

Looks like it to me. Same thing with Cornwell and Blue-point but with orange and red grips, respectively.

+1. Channellock has frequently relabeled their products for others.

Why would ideal use channellock when they own western forge?

It's surprisingly common for manufacturers to use other manufacturers-even rivals for part of their production.

 

[Subyroo651]

Yea that's exactly what I was thinking because I was looking at the Channellock set. My buddy just got the Cman which looked Identical.

 

[jeffmoss26]

"IIIIIIIII-clap-DENTICAL"- My Cousin Vinny
The snap ring pliers are made by Imperial/Stride. They used to make some of Klein's strippers as well as Craftsman.

 

[MAD]

The snap ring pliers are made by Imperial/Stride. They used to make some of Klein's strippers as well as Craftsman.

Sorry but that is incorrect. The retaining ring pliers are "Quick Switch" pliers made by A&E. A&E and Stride both make retaining ring pliers for many tool names. Often, major brands offer retaining ring pliers from both of these OEMs.

 

[jeffmoss26]

I have been wrong a few times...is it these guys?
http://www.langtools.com/AdvancedWebPage.aspx?cg=11&cd=2&SBCatPage=

 

[jzt]

They look the same.
http://www.langtools.com/PicturesCategory/1421.jpg?js_imagepath=PicturesCategory/1421.jpg