If you build it, they will come.

[MrAmbitious]

I need a space, to dream of Shelby's, CBF's, and other wheeled delights.

Just Think, I had to haul away almost 60 tri axle loads and then I had to buy ROCKS!

The plan is 24 feet 8 inches by 60 feet, cut short by a few rocks. So it is really only going to be about 56 feet.

BUT IT IS ON BUDGET!!!!!

I've also lost about 12 pounds.

The back 33 feet will be under ground and there will be a lift at the front of the garage.

I couldn't say enough about my wife!

Hopefully the walls will go up on Tuesday.

 

[PurdueSD]

nice!!!

What are the pillasters for that you are pouring in the last pic?

It will be nice to see another junky digging down to build up! Keep the updates coming!

It sure doesnt look 56ft long. Ive notice how pictures really dont give a feel for perspective. Ive got a 30x56 going up that looks tiny in pictures.

 

[Matt2point4]

What's the wall infront of the current garage? are you linking the new and old up and moving the doors out from their current position?

 

[volvo]

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...Looking good..Keep those pictures and updates coming ( I know, that's easy for me to say )...H

 

[GT40_GearHead]

very nice dude !

i vish you a strong back !

 

[bmwpower]

I'll definitely come...

60 TRIAXLES? ****, that's a lot.

Good Luck!!!!

 

[MrAmbitious]

No pictures for now, just a little too tired. Me and family and friends spent the day putting up the ICF's. We have to finish them tomorrow, and then make sure the site is prepared for the electrical on Monday.

The pilasters are for the concrete retaining wall that is going to allow my backyard to be level up to that spot; I don't want to worry about wood rotting out at the back of the work shop.

The wall in front of the current garage is there for two reasons; to support the porch so that it becomes a true wrap around, and to make the garage an addition, I will be able to walk from the house into the garage. The zoning here will only let you build 800 square feet for a detached garage, this will be almost 1400.

It looks a lot smaller with the ICF's in place. I will load more pictures in the next couple of days.

 

[PhantomEB]

FAWK, I love MrAmbitious ideas!!! ***** I couldnt pass it on thru the boss, she says if you can afford a 67 Shelby, you darn well can afford a pool out back for me.....

 

[MrAmbitious]

Forgot to add thanks for the comments, I spent a bit of time thinking about this build, and then I found this place and spent some more time thinking.

This build will be insulated to within $2.00 of my budget.

If anyone has some cheap and clever ways of making solar collectors for the roof, please post them or links to them, thanks. The roof will be almost due south, with a 10/12 pitch for almost perfect winter energy collection.

That's it for now, time for shower and bed.

 

[MrAmbitious]

A few more pictures:
All the ICF's getting ready to set.

It helps to have lots of friends and family to set everything up.

What a difference a day makes, on site and as far as the weather goes. It is supposed to rain off and on for the next week. YUCH

 

[bmwpower]

What is that foam stuff? Is that supposed to hold concrete??

 

[MrAmbitious]

It does hold the concrete, and then you leave it there in place and the walls are already insulated to R22. There are plastic "nailers" imbeded in the foam and you screw sheetrock or plywood directly into them. Here is the link for the company I used.
http://www.eco-block.com/

It is pretty neat to use. You do have to be careful and use a pump truck, but everything is done after the concrete is in place. One of the board members sells this kind of product in Iowa.

I hope this answers your question.

 

[wrigh003]

It does hold the concrete, and then you leave it there in place and the walls are already insulated to R22. There are plastic "nailers" imbeded in the foam and you screw sheetrock or plywood directly into them.

Neeeeeeeat.

Looking forward to the mass of pictures that will come- looks like you're off to a good start.

 

[bmwpower]

It does hold the concrete, and then you leave it there in place and the walls are already insulated to R22. There are plastic "nailers" imbeded in the foam and you screw sheetrock or plywood directly into them. Here is the link for the company I used.
http://www.eco-block.com/

It is pretty neat to use. You do have to be careful and use a pump truck, but everything is done after the concrete is in place. One of the board members sells this kind of product in Iowa.

I hope this answers your question.

Do you coat the outside of the foundation with something? I would think with all those holes in the wall, you'd be bound to get some leakage, especially underground.

 

[bluesman2a]

I have a friend who did his whole house with ICF's... THAT is the way to build!!! Super efficient, super durable... His exterior walls are all 18" thick!

Plus, any construction method tested by the DOD for bomb-shelters is a solid bet in my book! Great looking start!

 

[Woffski]

Looks very nice. Can't wait to see the rest of the work.

 

[Beyond]

That stuffs neat, but be aware that if the insulation catches fire it will spread very quickly. My brother in law built an underground house out of that stuff and when it burnt it really spread due to that insulation. Do yourself a test and shave some of that insulation in a bucket along with something to get it started and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[PAToyota]

That stuffs neat, but be aware that if the insulation catches fire it will spread very quickly.

That is why it is required that it be covered with drywall...

 

[cdrewferd]

Great looking garage. We need mor pics.

 

[curlyws6]

Nice Garage! Let's see more pics .

 

[Diehonda]

A company had a booth next to mine at the home expo here. They looked really cool but he advised that wind is a major issue when first laying them out.

It gets really windy here.



The garage looks awesome. I like how some of it will be underground.

Super jealous.

 

[MrAmbitious]

Remember the part where I said I was under budget. Well, now I want to be . Showed my accountant ie wife the budget, and she was not happy We didn't talk for the rest of the evening. It looks like we might be going 60% over budget, which is pretty bad however, in the grand scheme of things, I am still getting a pretty nice garage. In our case it is still to much. So far we have spent over $27k and I haven't done any stick building yet. We need about 10k more for the rest of the concrete. If I had contracted it out it would be well over $100k.

Anyway, another thing I learned was don't ask your 8 year old to take pictures unless you know for a fact that they can take pictures.

Thirdly, triple check your numbers, your squareness, your plumb, even if a pro does it. Have someone check you, you check others. Anyway, onto the pictures, for what their worth.

The pumper truck was pretty cool. $881 for 4.5 hours. What a horrible day, it was raining off and on all morning, I think we got over an inch of rain.
When you fill to the top of the forms you get sprayed, and I and my brother in law ended up just taking the hose and getting sprayed off. It was cold enough that the hose water felt warm. My boots are not dry, yet.

My brother in law doing a little of the pour. Over to his left a big rock fell into the hole because the rain loosened up the soil and really pushed out the foundation. We had a panic attack, but it wasn't too bad and we shored up the inside, and it held.

Here's me, not dirty, yet. That corner on the right blew out and cost me $105.

There was a crooked wall, that cost me my joists. Now they have to be made longer. More $$$$$$$$

This was the system that was supposed to keep the walls plumb

It is a really neat system and I recommend it to anyone, particularly when it can save you a lot of money from contractors, but read the manual and make sure you follow it religiously.

Some other points. I plan on doing the inside in sheetrock or some other nonflammable material. I would like something waterproof too, so that I can wash in the winter, but I put my mustang in today, the garage doesn't look nearly as big with a car in it.

I opted for $1600 in waterproofing membrane instead of $102 for liquid waterproofing. I don't want it to leak.

 

[John in OH]

I'm impressed that you did the pour yourself. ICFs can be very difficult forms to work with. Blow-outs and irregular walls seem to be quite common even when you're being careful, and I can't imagine how stressful that would be as a DIY project.

 

[ScottC]

MrAmbitious - Let me know if you're still interested in the Vaporblock I have available.

 

[MrAmbitious]

Well you called that one accurately. The wall wobbles like a drunken sailor, and I was freaking out the whole time, worrying about a blowout. The sales rep thought there might have been a weak spot in the form. Its done now.

Now I am second guessing myself in regards to the membrane. That stuff is EXPENSIVE and my budget is really hurting. It is also very difficult to get started, particularly when you don't have a lot of room to maneuver near the walls. The directions could be more clear, too. I'll have to try take some pictures of the tight confines.

One other thing I wasn't ready for was how difficult it was to control the discharge hose. The boom operator didn't keep it at the same height all the time and I thought I was going to get pulled off the scaffolding.

Now, if I could only get about $10k more to pay to finish the it. I'm sure THAT's a common thread.

ScottC, how much of it do you have, I need approximately 26 feet by 62 feet.