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Garage5.9

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I really can't stand it when im working on something and i get shadows near something or i just cant see i really get irritated. So my solution to that is lights and lots of them id say for only a 2 car garage. I already have 2 t8's , 1 4 footer over my tool box in the corner out of view and i have 2 more t8's that have yet to be installed. The other 2 t8's will go parallel with the exsisting one.




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what kind of bulbs are you running in those fixtures? have you ever tried a 5000K bulb? It is a little higher in spectrum than cool white 4100K but not as high as a a daylight bulb 6500K which drives me insane. I run a 5000K bulb in my garage, which is so nice for working because it is a clean light but not annoying if you know what I mean.
 
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what kind of bulbs are you running in those fixtures? have you ever tried a 5000K bulb? It is a little higher in spectrum than cool white 4100K but not as high as a a daylight bulb 6500K which drives me insane. I run a 5000K bulb in my garage, which is so nice for working because it is a clean light but not annoying if you know what I mean.

Im not really sure what K im running i just grabbed what ever was cheapest at Lowes haha. I do know that the small 4 footer has a bluish tint to the light so i guess that is a higher K bulb. Dont really know what you mean by annoying in terms of the color of light ?
 

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I agree about the color temperature, it makes a big difference. I won't let anything other than 5000k in my shop. I tried using some cheap "soft white" CFLs and the yellow color of the light in comparison to the others drove me nuts. It's very obvious when you're running two colors side by side. Usually the 5000k and 6500k bulbs are a bit more expensive in home stores.

You can look up what color you have by putting the numbers on your bulb in google.
 

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6500K has a very distinct bluish cast to it.

I have T5HO that I installed recently and the only available bulbs (without ordering on the internet in quantities of 25) were 4100K which is a cool white (but not daylight) and they are quite OK. 5000K would be ideal as you don't get any "color" out of the light itself.

Every bulb I've looked at the specs on, both fluorescent and metal halide, the 4000K or so version of the bulbs put out slightly more lumens than the 5000K version.

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Flooding a space with lots and lots of light will eliminate shadows but is hard on your eyes. The best way to light a space is to use ceiling lighting to create a general diffuse lighting that lets you find your way around the space. Then use task lighting to light specific work stations. Task lighting should be movable to optimize it. Use 2 or 3 lights to eliminate shadows and reveal surface textures. Use main and fill lights at 45 degree angles from the right and left and use the overhead light to create texture in the 3rd dimension. All 3 lights should be slightly in front of the subject and angled toward it. Main should be strongest and fill second strongest. Too much light will wash out detail. The difference in lighting strengths will show off detail.
 

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There are still shadows under the truck, need more light, lol. Addiction? My father installed four rows of side by side 8' dual bulb fixtures in a garage of your size with the highest output bulb he could find. Everything is painted white - lots of reflectivity, no shadows to be found, day or night.
 

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your getting there..
i've got 10 8ft lithonias with 5000k sylvania bulbs and 2 4footers in my 24x30, i need a couple more 4 footers myself.
 

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I have a 22' x 22', with 8 two bulb fixtures, about 1W/sq ft. I really need to change the old 2800-3200K bulbs to 4100k.
 

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your getting there..
i've got 10 8ft lithonias with 5000k sylvania bulbs and 2 4footers in my 24x30, i need a couple more 4 footers myself.

where the hell did you fit all of that in that small space?!
 

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Every bulb I've looked at the specs on, both fluorescent and metal halide, the 4000K or so version of the bulbs put out slightly more lumens than the 5000K version.

Interesting...I just bought a case of Kumho 5000k T8 tubes rated at 3100 lumens. They are noticeably brighter side by side than my Philips alto 5000k tubes, I think only 2850 lumens.
 

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your getting there..
i've got 10 8ft lithonias with 5000k sylvania bulbs and 2 4footers in my 24x30, i need a couple more 4 footers myself.

I had that in my old shop, which was also 24x30, except all mine were 8' T12HO tubes, 110w each. I won't be happy with less than that much light ever again.....:lol_hitti
 
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As we age our eyes require more light. I just installed 4 5000K bulbs in my garage. I had 2 300 watt "painters" incandescent in 2 fixtures and 2 85 watt (300 watt equivalent) bulbs in the other 2 fixtures. What a difference in light! Eventually will go with t8 or t5 4 footers, hopefully the closest I can get kelvin wise to natural light as I can, but these will do in the interim.
 
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Flooding a space with lots and lots of light will eliminate shadows but is hard on your eyes. The best way to light a space is to use ceiling lighting to create a general diffuse lighting that lets you find your way around the space. Then use task lighting to light specific work stations. Task lighting should be movable to optimize it. Use 2 or 3 lights to eliminate shadows and reveal surface textures. Use main and fill lights at 45 degree angles from the right and left and use the overhead light to create texture in the 3rd dimension. All 3 lights should be slightly in front of the subject and angled toward it. Main should be strongest and fill second strongest. Too much light will wash out detail. The difference in lighting strengths will show off detail.

When i get some extra cash ill put some light on the walls too like how a paint booth has them
There are still shadows under the truck, need more light, lol. Addiction? My father installed four rows of side by side 8' dual bulb fixtures in a garage of your size with the highest output bulb he could find. Everything is painted white - lots of reflectivity, no shadows to be found, day or night.
hahah yeah there are some shadows and yes im addicted to lighting if thats possible.
your getting there..
i've got 10 8ft lithonias with 5000k sylvania bulbs and 2 4footers in my 24x30, i need a couple more 4 footers myself.

Just curious how many circuits all of that is run out as it sounds impressive


any one have light in ground facing up ? like buried fluroscents protected by plexi glass ? sounds crazy but i bet it would make working under vehicles real nice
 

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When i get some extra cash ill put some light on the walls too like how a paint booth has them

hahah yeah there are some shadows and yes im addicted to lighting if thats possible.


Just curious how many circuits all of that is run out as it sounds impressive


any one have light in ground facing up ? like buried fluroscents protected by plexi glass ? sounds crazy but i bet it would make working under vehicles real nice

Now that's funny I just wired up my 30x40 with 25 recepticals in the ceiling for light, there can never be too much light, I'm planning on using 4 foot t8's from home depot.
I split them up into 2 circuits. However it might be a while before I have them all full, if I bought them all now id have 700 just in lights witch I can't afford now. Dam class a chimney pipe it broke me installing a barrel stove in my garage.
 

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I feel like the 6500K daylight deluxe which have a blueish appearance literally give me a headache, something about the light just makes me want to shatter the bulb.
 

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Just curious how many circuits all of that is run out as it sounds impressive

its one 20amp switched circuit, 5 receptacles down the center of the garage, 12-2 wire..
the 4ft lights are on a different circuit.
 
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I have a 40 x 76 foot pole building. White interior. I'm going to run the 8 foot T8s. Probably in end-to-end rows the length of the building. How many feet apart do you think I should space those rows? I was thinking 3 rows which would be about 13 feet apart but my son-in-law thinks they need to be closer. I really have no idea as I've never had a space this large before. Would like to hear your thoughts.
 

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I am building a 40x60 shop with 22 ft. eaves. 20 ft. wide bays with steel I-Beam frames. Two 16 ft. doors on one side, one 16 ft. door on one end. I just installed the general lighting and I am quite happy with it. I used four fixtures hanging at about 16 ft. above the floor. I used SJ cord from the ceiling boxes down to the fixtures and plug in connectors so I can take down a fixture to work on it easily. They are hung from the beams (20 ft. apart) and 10 ft. in from the side walls, making a square 20 ft. on a side centered in the space. Each fixture is switched separately, all on one 20 amp circuit and 12 gauge wire. I used 4 ft. T5 fixtures with 4 bulbs each. The fixtures have a shiny (stainless?) reflector and a clear glass lense. I used Sylvania 6500k HO bulbs and have not had any issues with the color of the light. I believe that this is because the fixtures are installed so high that you don't see them directly.

I have white vinyl covered insulation and am installing white painted 1/2" plywood for 8 feet high around the walls, except for a full height drywall fire wall on one end, which also be painted white when they finish the fire tape.

The shop is for repairing heavy equipment and I will be using task lighting for areas shaded from the general lighting. I like LED's for task lighting because I don't have to worry about heat from the bulbs. Of course, sometimes in the winter it is nice to have a couple of 1000W halogens for radiant heat!

I have two separate circuits for "walk-through" lights. Each includes two double PAR36 fixtures with 40W halogens for instant-on and high cycles so as not to wear out the flourescents when I duck in to grab a tool or something.

By having fewer fixtures I will have less to maintain in the future. One other nice feature is that the location of the fixtures avoids blocking any light when the overhead doors are open. The lights are also lower than the two ceiling fans, so i don't get any strobe effect when they are operating.
 

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Mine are 5.5' apart, and 4 feet off the sidewalls.
Then I added an "L" setup, 2' off the walls in the corner where my workbench goes.

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That's a total of 17 eight-foot, four-bulb T8 fixtures, or 68 tubes.
 
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I agree about the color temperature, it makes a big difference. I won't let anything other than 5000k in my shop. I tried using some cheap "soft white" CFLs and the yellow color of the light in comparison to the others drove me nuts. It's very obvious when you're running two colors side by side. Usually the 5000k and 6500k bulbs are a bit more expensive in home stores.

You can look up what color you have by putting the numbers on your bulb in google.

Well, that's why they make vanilla AND chocolate.
I hate cool white and daylight. Warm white is much nicer for my eyes.
The point is,as StaggerigGoat said, check the color if its something you care about; don't just grab any ol' fluorescent tube.
 

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A normal light lay out for 3 rows would be 80 inches from wall to 1st row,then 160 inches from 1st to 2nd row,then 160 inches from 2nd row to 3rd row,which should be 80 inches from 3rd row to other wall..... 80+160+160+80=480in.x 12=40ft
 

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i wanted ho's, my wallet didnt :)

You don't want to know what I thought when I read that line, but let's just say I thought it was gonna end with "my wife didn't."

I think those pills the doctor gave me are starting to kick in!

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