Imagine not having tools.

[Bubba Fett]

I was hanging an access point, and overheard a kid say to his parents that he wanted to go to a university because he didn't want to be like that guy (pointing at me), having to stand on a ladder working with tools. I thought to myself "I have no college debt, and a good job with a great boss, good pay, and great benefits. Plus I *GET* to work with tools."

I used to have a job where I worked behind a desk all day. I hated it. I should have told him all that, but it kind of ticked me off.

 

[zendriver]

If I could afford to have someone do all my maintenance and repair work. I have them do it

I do the work, pat myself on the back and say “look at all the money I saved like doing it myself”

Whoop Dee Doo!

Need a new roof and I’m stressing on whether I should pay a **** load of money and do it myself, or pay a shitload of money and have somebody else do it


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[CoogarXR]

Funny thing about tools- with just a few you can fix most things. But NO tools? I couldn't deal with none at all.

I mean even if my whole shop burned down and all I had was my little toolbox in the house, I could still make it work. Hell, I had a lot less than the contents of my little house box for the first half of my adult life, and my friends and I built ghetto hotrods... In a wooden carriage house with no door, a dirt floor, and a single lightbulb hanging overhead, lol.

Sometime I think I have bought way too many tools. And I have. But that one time, that one obscure tool saves the day, justifies the whole hoard, lol. That and the confirmation bias that I receive from this forum...

 

[dwasifar]

I was hanging an access point, and overheard a kid say to his parents that he wanted to go to a university because he didn't want to be like that guy (pointing at me), having to stand on a ladder working with tools.

That would be the moment to finish up hanging the access point and let the kid watch you install and configure the UniFi controller on a Linux machine and set up a VLAN.

That kid has a myopic viewpoint. Learning one kind of skill so you can avoid learning another kind is not what a genuine smart person does.

 

[toddmorr]

heck my daughter in her NYC apartment had a basic tool set, and used it. You're really going to call somebody else to hang a picture or take apart an appliance?

 

[engineer2]

Told this story before. My niece and 3 friends on a HS science project had to build a simple display stand. NONE of the other parents owned any tools. Our family had to build it ourselves.

In our area not owning tools is a status symbol. I frequently hear "We hire out for that kind of work!" or "we just buy a new one!" If the car breaks down "call AAA" or "just go trade it in on a new one."

 

[dwasifar]

Told this story before. My niece and 3 friends on a HS science project had to build a simple display stand. NONE of the other parents owned any tools. Our family had to build it ourselves.

In our area not owning tools is a status symbol. I frequently hear "We hire out for that kind of work!" or "we just buy a new one!" If the car breaks down "call AAA" or "just go trade it in on a new one."

I see your location is "Chicago burbs." Guessing somewhere in the Deerfield/Northbrook/Lake Forest/Lake Bluff area?

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

I think most people my age probably don’t own tools. I do and my friends do because we are in a trade. I always grew up around tools so I have always had them around. My neighbor is a lawyer she is in her 30s and called me to change her light switch cover. She doesn’t own a screwdriver. Her parents used to live in that house and they moved out now so she calls people because she was used to her dad doing stuff. Her dad took all his tools with him. My dad has a friend who is in his 40s and drives a truck known him for years and can’t use a screwdriver and he happily admits it he can’t. He said when his kids were small and he had to change batteries in their toys he would take it to Lowe’s or Home Depot and have the guy in the tool department do it.

I do have a separate box it’s a little handheld one for home use only. I don’t want my mechanics tools used in the house plus it voids the warranty if you use it for anything but mechanics stuff is what I was told. It only has screwdrivers and a couple sets of cheap pliers and a screen door tool in it. I got it at a storage auction so I made it the household repair box.


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[Meursault74]

I think most people my age probably don’t own tools. I do and my friends do because we are in a trade. I always grew up around tools so I have always had them around. My neighbor is a lawyer she is in her 30s and called me to change her light switch cover. She doesn’t own a screwdriver. Her parents used to live in that house and they moved out now so she calls people because she was used to her dad doing stuff. Her dad took all his tools with him. My dad has a friend who is in his 40s and drives a truck known him for years and can’t use a screwdriver and he happily admits it he can’t. He said when his kids were small and he had to change batteries in their toys he would take it to Lowe’s or Home Depot and have the guy in the tool department do it.

I do have a separate box it’s a little handheld one for home use only. I don’t want my mechanics tools used in the house plus it voids the warranty if you use it for anything but mechanics stuff is what I was told. It only has screwdrivers and a couple sets of cheap pliers and a screen door tool in it. I got it at a storage auction so I made it the household repair box.


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Did she pay you for your service?

Reading your post, I thought of this scene from the show, "Curb Your Enthusiasm"

 

[Forgottonia]

Hard to say why some guys are into DIY and others aren't. I was raised on a farm, and was very close to my grandfather--a true craftsman. I have a ton of tools and am always working on some home construction project or repair job. My brother who grew up on the same farm doesn't own any power tools at all, and can barely manage to hang a picture. He just has no interest in DIY, repair work or construction projects. He'd rather play board games or on-line poker. Go figure. :shrug:

 

[Ton ton]

I have helped a truck driver tear his boom apart on his trailer. I was surprised how slowly he worked with basic hand tools. I used to think I was the slow guy. You can tell who uses basic hand tools on a regular basis and who doesn't.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

Did she pay you for your service?



Reading your post, I thought of this scene from the show, "Curb Your Enthusiasm"

Haha funny video. No she didn’t pay me. I couldn’t see charging someone to change a light switch cover. I mow her grass and do all her yard work too but she does pay me for that. She had me show her how to start the mower in case she had to do it sometime and she had me show her how to check the oil and add gas.


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[Meursault74]

Haha funny video. No she didn’t pay me. I couldn’t see charging someone to change a light switch cover. I mow her grass and do all her yard work too but she does pay me for that. She had me show her how to start the mower in case she had to do it sometime and she had me show her how to check the oil and add gas.


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I see, since you already work for her, not a big deal.

Telling her to write you up a prenup for free sometime would not be the appropriate response

 

[XxToolAholicxX]

This younger generation kids wouldn’t know how to use them even if they had some tools I have few of them in the family. Now they have fast fingers and can do like millions of things with an iPhone..

 

[gatewaysysop]

I think at this point, I would genuinely be aghast at not having any tools, especially as a home owner.

My dad had his own detached workshop since before I was born, and spent tons of time doing wrought iron work, building trailers, working on our boat, his truck and whatever else came along. Suffice to say I was exposed to tools from an early age, but I didn't get into owning more than the bare essential tools until I moved out of my apartment and got my first house a couple hours away from my folks. Borrowing was no longer an option, so I slowly but steadily built up my tool collection either as the need arose or as good deals presented themselves.

Fast forward more than a few years and while I can now afford to have most things repaired, I still generally enjoy tackling them myself when I have the time and energy. Yes it sometimes saves money, but more than that, I enjoy doing something with my hands besides pounding a keyboard all day long. I'd hate to not have that outlet.

 

[lardy1]

My son in law is a great husband to my daughter and an excellent father to my grandchildren. He owns no tools and I seriously doubt he ever will beyond household screwdrivers, pliers, etc. When I found that out it floored me (pretty funny story about how I figured it out). Once I talked to my daughter about buying him a starter tool kit for a gift. She was adamant that I shouldn't do it. She says he can be sensitive about that so don't use mechanical things as conversation with him.

Over time I've really come to appreciate the guy for what he is. But that is just so alien to me.

 

[Handyandy23]

I don't think owning tools or not has anything to do with age, it all comes down to what people enjoy doing. Everyone on this forum likes to pretend we fix or build things to save money, which is definitely a nice perk, but most people who own a lot of tools and talk all day on a message board about them do it because they enjoy it. It's their hobby. And most people are friends with like-minded people, so the concept of not owning tools seems odd when you're surrounded by people with similar interests.

Most of the older people I know don't own hardly any tools and couldn't fix anything right anyways. My father in law I'm sure has a hammer and some screwdrivers, but he hires people to fix or build everything, and I doubt he could fix much even if he did have the tools. He works in IT / computer programming type fields and I'm sure he knows way more about computer programming than I do, because that's what he enjoys.

My dad always had tools, but just what he needed to get by, and never high quality stuff. He wasn't your typical "loves to tinker with things" kinda guy, but he built our whole log house on his own, just learning how to do things along the way and buying or borrowing what he needed. Funny thing is I never learned a great deal about how to fix or build things from him because he was learning on the fly himself. But he did definitely show me that you can learn how to fix or put anything together, and to not be afraid of trying.

Overall the large majority of people don't really enjoy fixing things or tools, and a large majority also don't have the mechanical inclination to figure out how to fix most things, or how things go together. Whether it's family or neighbors, the majority are lucky to have the basics in tools.

I worked around auto mechanics that drove run-down, beat up cars, who said they spend all day fixing other people's cars so they don't want to have to work on their own on their off days because they're sick and tired of it. Then other guys that spend all weekend polishing every nut and bolt because that's what they love doing. Which to me is just another example of enjoying it versus not enjoying it.

I've got tons of tools and a car lift, but it's all because I just like doing it. I like that it saves me money, but that's just a bonus (and I'm sure my wife would tell you that I waste a lot of money in other ways).

 

[tez929rr]

has a good grasp on common sense, something that highly intelligent people don't normally have.

This statement says more about you than it does about highly intelligent people.

 

[Handyandy23]

If that's true, I wonder how much of it is because modern technology is designed to be unrepairable, or requires specialized knowledge and equipment to repair. When I was 19, I remember lying under my old Plymouth on the side of the road, in a puddle of slush, installing a u-joint in the dark after unexpectedly dropping the driveshaft. Not a lot of fun, but at least it was possible. Field repairs are a lot harder on modern cars. And if your phone breaks, or a small appliance dies, you're supposed to just throw those away and buy new ones. If you don't grow up fixing things because the things around you can't be fixed, maybe you just never think about fixing things at all.

"Modern things can't be fixed" is kind of overblown. Cars and trucks still have u-joints, and 90% of the repairs you're going to have to do on a vehicle are still mechanical wear and tear items like brakes, shocks, exhaust, etc. The only thing different on modern cars are the electronics, and in a lot of cases with a $50 scan tool they make the diagnostic part of it even easier. I haven't found an issue yet that I couldn't root cause from my cheap code reader and a quick Google search.

I've also replaced my own phone screens, control board, and charging port on different phones. They all come apart and you can buy replacement parts on eBay or Amazon easily. Plus there are oodles of YT videos showing you how to take them apart.

Almost everything can be fixed still, it just comes down to knowing how, and also the cost/benefit of fixing it versus just replacing. If my phone cost me $500 a few months ago and even taking it to a phone repair shop costs $100 to fix it, then it makes sense. If my phone is 3+ years old and scratched and beat up then maybe it's not worth the investment anymore.

YT is the great equalizer for "specialized knowledge" because you can find videos on anything. Nobody comes out of the womb knowing how to drop a u-joint on a Plymouth, so fixing modern issues is no different in that it just takes a little learning or trial and error.

 

[dwasifar]

My son in law is a great husband to my daughter and an excellent father to my grandchildren. He owns no tools and I seriously doubt he ever will beyond household screwdrivers, pliers, etc. When I found that out it floored me (pretty funny story about how I figured it out).

Now I want to hear the funny story.

 

[dwasifar]

"Modern things can't be fixed" is kind of overblown. Cars and trucks still have u-joints, and 90% of the repairs you're going to have to do on a vehicle are still mechanical wear and tear items like brakes, shocks, exhaust, etc. The only thing different on modern cars are the electronics, and in a lot of cases with a $50 scan tool they make the diagnostic part of it even easier. I haven't found an issue yet that I couldn't root cause from my cheap code reader and a quick Google search.

I've also replaced my own phone screens, control board, and charging port on different phones. They all come apart and you can buy replacement parts on eBay or Amazon easily. Plus there are oodles of YT videos showing you how to take them apart.

Almost everything can be fixed still, it just comes down to knowing how, and also the cost/benefit of fixing it versus just replacing. If my phone cost me $500 a few months ago and even taking it to a phone repair shop costs $100 to fix it, then it makes sense. If my phone is 3+ years old and scratched and beat up then maybe it's not worth the investment anymore.

YT is the great equalizer for "specialized knowledge" because you can find videos on anything. Nobody comes out of the womb knowing how to drop a u-joint on a Plymouth, so fixing modern issues is no different in that it just takes a little learning or trial and error.

Yeah, I get you. I didn't mean to say that things are literally unrepairable, just that they're not designed to be user-serviceable. My wife is famously rough on phones; once I saw her drop a hair dryer on her phone and shatter the screen, and in 15 minutes I had assembled her a working frankenphone from the pieces of that one and its predecessor of the same model. (This would not be possible with an iPhone, though; they're designed to refuse to work if you swap parts.) And the other day I fixed her coffee grinder. The safety interlock switch for the hopper had failed. I bypassed it (and plastered the area under the hopper with warning labels reading UNPLUG BEFORE CLEANING). But here's the thing about that. It might not have been possible to fix it properly, i.e. replace the failed interlock rather than disable the safety feature. I expect the part would be unavailable, or too costly to be worth it. This is sort of the same thing you were saying about whether it's economical to fix your phone.

Getting back to the iPhone for a moment, maybe there's a correlation there too. Apple is well known to be hostile to repairs; not only user repairs, but pro service too. They want you to bring your broken product back to them so they can try to sell you a new one, and they use various methods to enforce that - special screws, glued-down components, software that makes devices refuse to work or degrades their performance if Apple thinks you should have bought a new one. And although I have no hard data to prove it, it feels to me like there's a negative correlation between Apple customers and DIY toolheads like us. Not a perfect correlation; there are still lots of posts here "from my iPhone with Tapatalk." But Apple right now is the apex of unrepairable consumer products, and it makes sense that people who already think that way would be their happiest customers. I just wonder if that kind of thing is training young consumers to believe it has to be that way.

 

[zendriver]

Yeah, I get you. I didn't mean to say that things are literally unrepairable, just that they're not designed to be user-serviceable. My wife is famously rough on phones; once I saw her drop a hair dryer on her phone and shatter the screen, and in 15 minutes I had assembled her a working frankenphone from the pieces of that one and its predecessor of the same model. (This would not be possible with an iPhone, though; they're designed to refuse to work if you swap parts.) And the other day I fixed her coffee grinder. The safety interlock switch for the hopper had failed. I bypassed it (and plastered the area under the hopper with warning labels reading UNPLUG BEFORE CLEANING). But here's the thing about that. It might not have been possible to fix it properly, i.e. replace the failed interlock rather than disable the safety feature. I expect the part would be unavailable, or too costly to be worth it. This is sort of the same thing you were saying about whether it's economical to fix your phone.



Getting back to the iPhone for a moment, maybe there's a correlation there too. Apple is well known to be hostile to repairs; not only user repairs, but pro service too. They want you to bring your broken product back to them so they can try to sell you a new one, and they use various methods to enforce that - special screws, glued-down components, software that makes devices refuse to work or degrades their performance if Apple thinks you should have bought a new one. And although I have no hard data to prove it, it feels to me like there's a negative correlation between Apple customers and DIY toolheads like us. Not a perfect correlation; there are still lots of posts here "from my iPhone with Tapatalk." But Apple right now is the apex of unrepairable consumer products, and it makes sense that people who already think that way would be their happiest customers. I just wonder if that kind of thing is training young consumers to believe it has to be that way.

On what planet, Are Apple products not repairable By an independent shop?

Not this one.

eBay alone has hundreds of services were one can send iphone in For repair

I got a battery replacement from an independent local shop

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[AA/FC]

{snip}

The majority of tenants have no tools at all, and must rely on the maintenance staff for even the simplest repair or adjustment.

Imagine living like that. How would it make you feel? It would make me feel vulnerable and useless. I need to know I can fix what goes wrong. Otherwise what good am I?

I often wondered where people who live in an apartment keep all their tools (sure, some have garages) because living without tools certainly is not an option. (in my book anyway)

Here is another one to think about..... Could you imagine not knowing (understanding) how cars and trucks produce enough energy under their hoods to propel the vehicle down the road. There are people in this world who have no idea what an internal combustion engine is, or how it works.... or what a transmission is/does.... all they know is how to turn the ignition key and somehow magic happens and the vehicle moves under its own power. I'm sorry, but if I operate ANY machine, I must first understand exactly how it works and what is happening.

 

[zendriver]

My grandfather was a master carpenter but he never did electrical plumbing or auto mechanical work.

That was someone else’s living,The way it was Contrary to the myth that everyone was “DIY”

I could family economics to basically three levels

1. People who are rich
2. People who are poor
3. People who have money because they are thrifty and frugal


I seriously doubt Warren Buffett has ever changed his own oil or dug up his plug sewer line. He does what he does best and hire someone to do that type of work.

Poor people don’t have the money to hire somebody to do work, so either the work doesn’t get done or they try to buy enough tools to muddle on their way through. Since tape off and lack the skills.

I consider myself and the third category. If I would have had to spend the money I had saved by doing work myself over the years, I might very well be in category two.

I am remain frugal by shunning expensive tools luckily the inexpensive ones are more than enough to get any job done.






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[dwasifar]

On what planet, Are Apple products not repairable By an independent shop?

Not this one.

eBay alone has hundreds of services were one can send iphone in For repair

I got a battery replacement from an independent local shop

Yes, this one. Planet Earth. Third rock from the sun.

It depends on what component needs replacement. The front panel on recent iPhones, for example, is keyed to the OS, and if it's replaced by anyone but Apple, iOS may refuse to allow the phone to function. Same thing can happen if replacing the camera; it can refuse to go into certain modes, or just not work at all. That's true even if the replacement is a genuine Apple part, like say from another identical iPhone.

There are workarounds, but they require the tech to either use the official Apple system configuration tool (a cloud app available only to Apple techs), or else hack the replacement parts to flash a new serial number to the EEPROM. And some things, like Touch ID or Face ID in older iPhones, just don't work at all if you replace the relevant parts. Even your battery replacement might have caused your phone to throw a constant Needs Service or Unauthorized Parts warning depending on the model.

Going over into the laptop side of things, Apple has been gluing down batteries, hard drives, and RAM for ages, using giant globs of adhesive that are extremely difficult to remove without destroying the system board. And of course everything is famously hard to open. I have two old Apple computers in my junk closet; one laptop and one G5 Mac Mini, given to me by friends when they got too old. (The computers, not the friends.) Not saying other makers' laptops are always easy to tear down, but nothing like the Macbook; and to open up the Mini you actually have to fabricate a tool by sharpening a thin putty knife. Can it be done? Yes. But it's deliberately made needlessly difficult.

 

[Parrothead]

Imagine living like that. How would it make you feel? It would make me feel vulnerable and useless. I need to know I can fix what goes wrong. Otherwise what good am I?

How would it make me feel? Pretty good actually. It means I am in a position in life where I no longer feel the need to do things like fix a doorknob or replace a leaky P trap. I fix things now because it’s a cost savings, not because I find some joy in doing so or that my value as a human is based on my ability to “do”.

I finally paid for a lawn care company to treat my lawn for the year instead of getting out the spreader, filling the hose end sprayer, and spot treating particularly bad spots, ect. I could not be happier. I’ve decided to pay that same company to edge, mulch and weed the flower beds. I find no joy in such tasks and paying someone else to do them is making me a much happier person.

 

[zendriver]

When I’ve hired work done, which I almost have never done in the past I’ve been happy with the results.

I’ve been dicking around for years trying to figure out “the best way” to run 100A 220v to the detached garage

Said screw it and hired someone else giving them a hand pulling wires.

Best $800 I ever spent.

The biggest part that makes people feel “vulnerable” is hiring someone they can trust.

They need to find “their guy” (or girl)


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[m6z]

Paying rent = not my problem, someone else can fix it.

I've got a nice box filled with tools, but often pay someone to change my oil. Why? It's $20ish dollars labor takes about the same amount of time and I stay clean and don't have to dispose of the used oil.

Brake job or something more labor intensive? If I think I can tackle it on a Saturday I'll probably do it myself, something more involved I'm just going to pay someone to do it.

 

[rk_tek]

I once owned tools because it was cheaper to buy the tool than pay someone else to work on whatever needed it. If the cost to repair is cheaper than the tools required, I will pay someone else for the work.

Now I own tools because the hassle of fixing something myself is less than the hassle of finding someone to do the work.

We recently bought a new car for my wife. Her old one was beginning to have frequent failures and the pressure to quickly repair things so she had a reliable vehicle was more than I wanted to deal with. I told her that I never intend to open the hood on her new car for the next 7 years. It has a 7 year warranty and anything that goes wrong will be the dealer's problem, not mine.

In the meantime, I'm restoring an old Wilton vise and about to start building a playhouse for our daughters. There's not a deadline I have to meet for either project and if I don't feel like working on something, I don't.

 

[Meursault74]

Now I own tools because the hassle of fixing something myself is less than the hassle of finding someone to do the work.

.

 

[Handyandy23]

I often wondered where people who live in an apartment keep all their tools (sure, some have garages) because living without tools certainly is not an option. (in my book anyway)

When I was in university I lived in an apartment, and I actually used most of the linen closet as a tool box. I was just a single guy and I only had 3-4 towels, and the closet by the bathroom was probably about 3 feet by 3 feet with several shelves. So I laid out my tools in there as best as I could and just shoved the few towels on the top shelf haha.

It didn't hold much, but as a broke student it was enough space to put a socket set, hammers, screwdrivers, etc.

 

[The Tool Tyrant]

Bite your tongue! Those are thoughts that bring on nightmares.

 

[Nick Danger]

I like to fix things, so I own tools.

I do not create my own music, cook elaborate meals from basic ingredients, or sew my own clothes. Those were common skills in 1900, but not so common now. Technology has made them unnecessary, except as a hobby.

There's nothing wrong with people having a different hobby than us.

 

[AA/FC]

When I was in university I lived in an apartment, and I actually used most of the linen closet as a tool box. I was just a single guy and I only had 3-4 towels, and the closet by the bathroom was probably about 3 feet by 3 feet with several shelves. So I laid out my tools in there as best as I could and just shoved the few towels on the top shelf haha.

It didn't hold much, but as a broke student it was enough space to put a socket set, hammers, screwdrivers, etc.

So the linen closet was basically your built-in tool box... Love it!

 

[macgee]

I like to fix things, so I own tools.

I do not create my own music, cook elaborate meals from basic ingredients, or sew my own clothes. Those were common skills in 1900, but not so common now. Technology has made them unnecessary, except as a hobby.

There's nothing wrong with people having a different hobby than us.

+1; Totally agree with this.

Having said that, other than enjoying it as a hobby, I also feel some responsibility to save good items from going into the scrap/waste heap when it doesn't have to; just applying a little love to it, it's back up and running. Just having some simple tools and knowledge can really help cut down on waste and improve self reliance (if & when one chooses to be).

This helps avoid the need of buying all those crappy overseas replacements and not participate as much in our disposable society. With the right tools so many things can easily be brought back to a long life and keep the waste down. I'm seeing a lot of people chuck out things because it needs a new battery because they cant figure out how to open the cover to swap them out so they get on Amazon to buy another one.

 

[9eight7]

...

1. People who are rich
2. People who are poor
3. People who have money because they are thrifty and frugal
...

Imagine no tools... that is an expensive life style!

According to this I guess I fall into the 3rd category. I have saved so much money doing my own maintenance and DIY projects it's crazy. Just doing the brakes on 2 of our cars alone saved me at least $1k each.

Ever since I was a little kid, I've been interested in taking things apart or improving them in some way. My GoPed in middle school is where I really got my hands dirty and started my need for speed.

 

[cdods]

I worked for and lived with my Aunt & Uncle during my summers as a university student. They lived in a typical older suburban neighborhood. I had brought a toolbox, but needed pair of vise grips when changing my brakes. Neither they or any of their immediate neighbors had a set. This was my first realization that my rural upbringing where everyone had at least a set of all the basic tools wasn't universal.

 

[P0234]

It takes longer to find someone to fix something than it actually takes to just fix it yourself, at least for most things around the house. There are YouTube videos on how to repair just about anything if you need them and factory service manuals are super easy to find.

 

[ZRX61]

My roomies son is like that, he's 39. One day he actually said "Why would I need to own tools? Rick has everything".. That went over well.

He borrowed my tile saw once, broke part of it.. He didn't mention the broken part, probably didn't even realize he broke something.

He loaned MY ******* step ladder to his sister one time & actually had to move his mom's step ladder to get to mine. I found out when I needed the step ladder & it wasn't here.
Had him help me fix a power steering leak on his car.. found out he doesn't know the difference between loosening a fitting & completely rounding it off.


He's sufficiently educated now to know damn well NOT to touch ANYTHING of mine.

 

[bonneyman]

Some years ago an older gentleman was digging thru tool bins along side me looking for tools. I asked if he was looking for tools to outfit his sons so they had a car box in case of emergencies. He said no - when asked what they would do if they broke down, they replied they didn't need tools as they would just call AAA.