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Just curious what the difference is/are between a non chromed impact socket, and the (what I would call) a regular chromed socket.

Is it just that the chrome would be more likely to crack and fail on the impact socket ?
 
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Oh goodie!!! Another one of these....maybe a moderator should choose a good one and make it a sticky since this comes up about once a week.

Impacts are softer metal intended to absorb the hammer. A chrome is more brittle and can shatter. The impacts also have thicker walls. You should not use a chrome on an impact but an impact socket on a ratchet will be fine. It is slightly softer so will be more likely to round bolts and break In extreme circumstances. I'm talking like 4 foot breaker bar. They also will not fit in some tight spaces like a chrome will. I have used my deep well impacts on a ratchet for years even with a cheater pipe and haven't had any issues.

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This is copied from a Snap-On Facebook post by them. Pretty much sums it up.

Snap-on Technical Reference: Impact vs. Chrome Sockets
January 14, 2010 at 7:35am
Chrome hand sockets and impact sockets have differences that are a lot more than skin deep. Each is designed and manufactured with specific applications in mind, and they are built to handle that job only. The user must be careful not to use a chrome hand socket on an impact gun.

The impact socket has thick walls and is finished in a black phosphate or black oxide finish. The design is also distinct as impact sockets have a cross hole in the handle end for use with a retaining pin and ring or locking pin anvil to allow the socket to be securely attached to the square drive of an impact gun.

Power sockets, designed for use with power nut runners, multi-spindle machines and angle head nut drivers, may cause some confusion since they are offered in a black finish. But, they are stamped “WARNING: NON-IMPACT.” Power sockets are heat treated to a higher hardness than either impact or hand sockets. This high hardness, combined with thick socket walls, produces a strong, wear resistant socket. This socket is ideal for assembly-line work where it is not subjected to high-impact loads.

Hand sockets have a thin wall which allows for clearance in general applications where hand torquing is used. Hand sockets, except for those intended for industrial use, are chrome plated. Although hand sockets and power sockets can fit the impact wrench, they are not the same and must not be used on impact tools.

One difference you can’t see between these two different types of sockets has to do with the way each has been heat treated and/or the composition of the metal used. The impact socket made out of medium carbon alloy steel is heat treated to a low hardness range which has been optimized for impact use. This means that under heavy, continuous use, an impact socket will withstand the impact blows and will wear rather than break.

Hand sockets are made of medium carbon alloy steel heat treated to a hardness range commensurate with their size and configuration. Hand sockets are heat treated to a comparatively higher hardness for high strength and more wear resistance than impact sockets. But, they are made to sustain hand applied torque applications only. In other words, they are not designed for use on impact guns, and should never be used on them.

Using only impact sockets on impact wrenches reduces the risk of injury, delays and damaged work. It’s relatively easy to spot a hand socket that’s been misused on an impact wrench. Check the square drive end for signs of damage and distortion. Cracks and other damage will often appear around the wrench end as well. Breakage due to impact use is considered misuse and not through any fault of the hand socket itself.

If the right socket for the job isn’t available, the job can be delayed and tools can be damaged. Improperly using hand sockets on impact tools may be hazardous as they may crack. By knowing the difference between the various types of sockets and using them appropriately, you will be able to ensure a safer and more efficient work environment.
 

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Perfect, OP got his question answered in 2 posts. Now we can close this thread. Oh wait it needs 5 more pages of useless info to add to this first.
 

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Just curious what the difference is/are between a non chromed impact socket, and the (what I would call) a regular chromed socket.

Is it just that the chrome would be more likely to crack and fail on the impact socket ?

I think the answer is YES, that's why impact sockets don't have chrome finish.

The other differences are already mentioned in the above answers.
Perfect, OP got his question answered in 2 posts. Now we can close this thread. Oh wait it needs 5 more pages of useless info to add to this first.

No, his question is more about "chrome" if I understand correctly.
 
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Chrome is hard but brittle; it will shatter under high torque, but not wear much.

Impact is soft(er); it will deform before it shatters.

Impact is also more expensive and often thicker walled, so it might not fit into some spaces.

And note that this is all relative; different qualities of tools will have different properties; I have shattered cheap impacts and deformed good chrome sockets.
 

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Chrome is hard but brittle; it will shatter under high torque, but not wear much.

Impact is soft(er); it will deform before it shatters.

Impact is also more expensive and often thicker walled, so it might not fit into some spaces.

And note that this is all relative; different qualities of tools will have different properties; I have shattered cheap impacts and deformed good chrome sockets.

My understanding is that OP's "Chrome" doesn't mean "Chrome socket", rather "chrome finish".


It's cheaper, due to the fact that they don't need to chrome plate them. Check Snap-On prices.
 

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My understanding is that OP's "Chrome" doesn't mean "Chrome socket", rather "chrome finish".


It's cheaper, due to the fact that they don't need to chrome plate them. Check Snap-On prices.

I'm not sure that referencing Snap On's prices is a valid comment on anything. :)

I take your point, though; a good chrome socket can be just as expensive as an impact.

In general, though...
 
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Sorry if this was a redundant thread. I had searched the forum before asking maybe I just didn't phrase it correctly.

That said I appreciate all the information, and I now understand the difference.
 
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The HF deep Wells are great. I have never used the pittsburg pro

It seems like you originally thought the only difference was that one was chromed and one was not. As I think we made clear there is a lot more difference than that. And no need to apologise. This one has been tame (so far)...last time it got heated lol.
 
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It amuses me that everyone here agrees that one should never use Impact gun on chrome sockets - because they are so hard and can fracture and are not safe.

At the same time no bells are ringing over cheap impact sockets that seem to hold up well and outlast their much more expensive counterparts. Though as nails so to speak.

Personally I am not worried about it. But it seems obvious to me many cheap impact sockets on the market are way to hard to be considered "safe". And from what I have seen personally they fracture and rip open exactly like decent chrome sockets do after extensive Impact use. The top quality brands impacts don't do that, and they wear out pretty fast!

Seems to me they have to be black and the box has to say "Impact socket". Then everyone is happy. All of a sudden the Chinese can make perfectly safe impact sockets that outlast the best brands in the world by a large margin.

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Chrome sockets are thin, so in order to make up for the lack of strength due to being thinner, the steel is made harder to increase the socket's strength. This hardening of the steel makes it less able to withstand impacts. The term "glass hard" is used to describe chrome sockets.

Impact sockets are made out of softer steel to withstand impacts, so in order for the socket to make up for its lack of strength from being softer, the thickness of the metal is increased to increase strength.
 
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How about the Tekton impact sockets? How do these compare?
Tekton is low grade. I would look for something CR-MO from other makers, even Harbor Freight has them.

I found that OEMTools is of excellent quality and CR-MO, low price.
 

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Every set of sockets i've bought have fit well, my most used sockets are a set i got off ebay for less then £30.

I've never bought any "expensive" sockets and haven't suffered for it, plenty of my impact sets are cr-v and are holding up just fine.

Seen a few chrome sockets crack on an impact gun but nothing too severe, normally just a crack down about half the length.
 

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Sorry if this was a redundant thread. I had searched the forum before asking maybe I just didn't phrase it correctly.

That said I appreciate all the information, and I now understand the difference.

Don't feel bad, man. My first post on this board was "why isn't my Snap-On Dual 80 ratchet stamped Made in U.S.A.?" That didn't go well.
 
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