In Ground Lift?

[robertwhite]

How about it folks, who has an inground set up and what are the pros and cons?

Cost (installed)?

Just floating an idea before I order my 2 post.

 

[Jack Olsen]

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35433

 

[mad57]

Where do you live? ive got a buddy with a shop and hes removing his 3 inground lifts as hes trying to sell his shop and the d.e.p. has found out from a core drill that one lift has leaked and really messed up the soil, so needless to say they will be cheap.

 

[ScaldedDog]

Love my in-ground Rotary. Great service lift.

Mark

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[autoclassicnut]

Where do you live? ive got a buddy with a shop and hes removing his 3 inground lifts as hes trying to sell his shop and the d.e.p. has found out from a core drill that one lift has leaked and really messed up the soil, so needless to say they will be cheap.

Ouch, that will be a costly cleanup....

 

[Milton Shaw]

I have had mine about 20 years, bought used and installed it before I built the garage. I love it. Big advantage, its doesn't take up as much space as a two post or 4 post lift. I wire brushed the entire cylinder and welded up any deep pits, then coated it with underground protective coating, brush on and then tape wrapped. Installed it with river sand as the filler and used schedule 80 pipe also wrapped for corrosion prevention. Should be good for a lot more years. I have seen a lot of lifts being taken out of service for corrosion of the lift safety pole after about 20 -25 years in service. If you can get a new safety pole I would suggest it. I set mine in place with a wrecker after having a backhoe dig the hole and foundations for the shop at the same time.

 

[D.J.]

What about using a food grade product such as mineral oil for contamination free spills or leaks?

 

[sberry]

A lift doesn't really seem to take up as much space as one might think and with the availability of new modern highly engineered economical units the last thing I would want to do is repair an old obsolete hard to install, maintain unit.
While I am not familiar with all of them and there are other options I would be hard pressed to want anything other than a 2 post lift in a common garage for most routine car work.

 

[CARS]

What about using a food grade product such as mineral oil for contamination free spills or leaks?

That is a great idea, but my fore and aft twin post holds 40 gallons of oil.
A quick google shows I can order it for $25.00 a gallon... that's a grand!

Cheaper than an EPA fine though! I need to have the bottom seal replaced, so I am not using it at the moment. Maybe when I order the parts I will run this idea by them to see if it is as good of an idea as we think.

 

[robertwhite]

Never gave the ground contamination any thought. Guess I will cross this idea of my list, because if the inground leaks, it will leach into my cattle pasture, barn area. That would not be a good scenario.

Thanks guys.

 

[c39er]

You would be suprised how much oil is on and in the ground in the city and suburbs. Car leaks, truck leaks and not to mention heavy equipment leakage.
I think in some ares of the country vehicles must have any oil leaks fixed before they can be driven again. Thats the picture of the future. It seems anything with an engine or repair equipment with oils in it must always be absolutely perfect and leak free to legally be operated.
More costs because of cars trucks and machinery that are not new.

 

[camarotoolman]

Ir will be a real problem when you go to sell.

 

[ScaldedDog]

Guys, the new in-ground lifts use way less oil, and are completely self contained. No leaks, no EPA ****, no worries.

Mark

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[robertwhite]

Guys, the new in-ground lifts use way less oil, and are completely self contained. No leaks, no EPA ****, no worries.

Mark

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Link to said lift?

 

[ScaldedDog]

Google Rotary SL210-RA.

Mark

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[robertwhite]

Google Rotary SL210-RA.

Our Price: $6,792.03

That's not gonna happen.

 

[mad57]

Our Price: $6,792.03

That's not gonna happen.

a 2 post is looking good now huh

 

[ScaldedDog]

Our Price: $6,792.03

That's not gonna happen.

Yeah, they are sold at about a 30% premium over an equivalent two post.

Mark

 

[magnusk750]

Makes me think of how I worked on a petrol station in the 80s where there were five or six inground lift. They were all on the same pump. Sundays scheduled routine was to fill the system with 2-3 litres of oil as there was a leak somewhere, must have been into the soil as nothing could be seen of the leak. And like that it continued at least for those three years I worked there. The lifts are still there, interesting if it still goes on like that with thousands of litres of oil in the ground by now

Where do you live? ive got a buddy with a shop and hes removing his 3 inground lifts as hes trying to sell his shop and the d.e.p. has found out from a core drill that one lift has leaked and really messed up the soil, so needless to say they will be cheap.

 

[CARS]

Makes me think of how I worked on a petrol station in the 80s where there were five or six inground lift. They were all on the same pump. Sundays scheduled routine was to fill the system with 2-3 litres of oil as there was a leak somewhere, must have been into the soil as nothing could be seen of the leak. And like that it continued at least for those three years I worked there. The lifts are still there, interesting if it still goes on like that with thousands of litres of oil in the ground by now

Shhhh...... I don't know what you are talking about

 

[sberry]

a 2 post is looking good now huh

Its easy to over complicate things for sure, common 2 post lift is about as cheap and simple as it gets. A guy could get a couple hundred more opinions but it still wont change that fact.

 

[ScaldedDog]

Its easy to over complicate things for sure, common 2 post lift is about as cheap and simple as it gets. A guy could get a couple hundred more opinions but it still wont change that fact.

It doesn't get much simpler than this...

Mark

 

[01ssreda4]

I would so pimp that car!!!

 

[ConCretin]

I've been researching these as a solution to a space conflict with an overhead gantry. I also really like the idea of not having to work around the posts of a standard lift especially when I'm not actually using the lift.

The new ones from Rotary and Challenger come in a self contained 'cartridge' that prevents any ground contamination in the event of a leak. They also offer systems that use air and water rather than oil.

They are pretty pricey and obviously require advance planning but seem to be a good solution in some cases.

 

[buzz4041]

Doesn't an inground lift also block such jobs as pulling a ****** and changing a flywheel. Something to think about. I will stick with my 4 post for now. Especially after seeing that price OUCH.

 

[bigdav160]

Doesn't an inground lift also block such jobs as pulling a ****** and changing a flywheel. Something to think about

No. Look at the picture of the Ferrari. The post are just outside the rocker panels. A four post is much more difficult to work around.

I looked seriously at the in-ground. But I dismissed them because I couldn't park or drive another car between the post.

 

[buzz4041]

No. Look at the picture of the Ferrari. The post are just outside the rocker panels. A four post is much more difficult to work around.

I looked seriously at the in-ground. But I dismissed them because I couldn't park or drive another car between the post.

Sorry I was only visualizing the old single cylinder style not like the one shown by scalded dog.

 

[CARS]

I like that Rotary 2 post better than my Fore/Aft 2 post lift





Air over leaky hydraulics. I need to pull the whole thing out and fix it or pull it and fill the pit

Original owner damn near poured the oil from every trans flush to top it off. Next owner gave up after adding 10 gallons. I put in close to 40 gallons to get it to work right. Then I heard fluid running in the pit when lowering a car and just gave up on it. (yes, I pumped the pit to save my hydraulic oil)

 

[rrangus]

I have three Rotary lifts, an older in ground, side by side post, above ground symmetrical, and above ground asymmetrical. Each has there it's advantages and disadvantages. If money was no object, if I was building a new shop, I would have at least one in ground. The above ground lifts take so much floor space.