In Wall Conduit for wires

[Jsf721]

I have a wall totally open where I plan to install a new TV. I pre ran the Coax and Cat 6 cable to the approximate location and have it sitting all coiled up.

I need to pre install a tube of some type to run the hdmi to the cable box below as well as any other wires.

I would like everything to look finished when completed.

Anyone have any links to a good product ?

Thanks

 

[Innovate1]

Is it an interior wall? Asking because exterior walls may have insulation which makes things harder. If interior just use regular conduit and end slightly short of wall plate. Use a box ring that is open on the back. Then use whatever cover plate you want. For HDMI you should use large enough conduit to allow HDMI connectors. If it has insulation use a full box and bring the conduit into the box - that may be a bit more difficult with large conduit.

 

[Jsf721]

Is it an interior wall? Asking because exterior walls may have insulation which makes things harder. If interior just use regular conduit and end slightly short of wall plate. Use a box ring that is open on the back. Then use whatever cover plate you want. For HDMI you should use large enough conduit to allow HDMI connectors. If it has insulation use a full box and bring the conduit into the box - that may be a bit more difficult with large conduit.

It will be insulated but the plan is to install this at the point of dry walling. Room is ripped to the studs as we speak.

Found this on amazon since posting

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071DY6B6L/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[u2slow]

ENT (cor-line) is made up to 2" size. I have heard of central vacuum pipe being used in a pinch also.

 

[engineer2]

I've used PVC pipe if there is no 120VAC power involved. Lets you pull new cables as technology evolves.

 

[Jsf721]

I've use PVC pipe if there is no 120VAC power involved. Lets you pull new cables as technology evolves.

I am putting a recessed quad behind the TV do I think that will meet all the POWER needs. My though is TV, Sound Bar and 2 for future "streaming" boxes that may become available. I have not purchased the TV yet but I think Apple TV will be built into the unit. If not Ill use one outlet for that.

 

[dcg9381]

I have a wall totally open where I plan to install a new TV. I pre ran the Coax and Cat 6 cable to the approximate location and have it sitting all coiled up.

I need to pre install a tube of some type to run the hdmi to the cable box below as well as any other wires.

I would like everything to look finished when completed.

Anyone have any links to a good product ?

Thanks

You can use "smurf tube" for the low voltage stuff. Blue tube, orange boxes.


I tend to run electrical PVC, definitely at least 1" (maybe 1.25") for HDMI. Put pull string in it. I drop it out (typically) double gang electrical boxes and then plate it with one of the various plates available at monoprice.com. They have "drop out" plates where you can feed the wires through if you don't want to terminate them at the box.

HDMI can be particular and if you have a run over 15' or so, I highly recommend testing it with your components before you button things up. Longer runs need "active" cables and their video resolution ratings differ and if you are using ARC (which is great) - there can be additional compatibility issues between components.

I would expect a recessed quad power to be more than enough at the TV and other boxes. It's audio receivers and high draw devices like Xbox /PS that can really load a circuit.

 

[murd]

I've used this before. I guess it depends on the size of the hdmi ends.

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/carlon-ent-nonmetallic-grey-1-in-conduit-25-ft-/1001087697

You might want to run an extra cat6 while it's easy. I ran two cable and two data when I did mine. I've never used the cable ones.

 

[alfredeneuman]

Make sure the HDMI cable is rated for in wall use. Some aren't.

 

[Jsf721]

I've used this before. I guess it depends on the size of the HDMI ends.

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/carlon-ent-nonmetallic-grey-1-in-conduit-25-ft-/1001087697

You might want to run an extra cat6 while it's easy. I ran two cable and two data when I did mine. I've never used the cable ones.

What's the reason for running 2 data and 2 coax, redundancy?

Funny my My friend suggest not data cables and a straight wireless install but I prefer wired connections whenever possible.

 

[murd]

I ran two coax for the satellite system. It's what it used to use. It's all wireless now.

As for the two data, we have an apple tv under our tv, along with a game system. Like you I like everything on wires.

 

[tarmy]

I just did this in one of my garages. Ran a couple 1” pvc jumpers runs from one side to the other. Put in a couple boxes too just to have handy.

 

[dcg9381]

I ran two coax for the satellite system. It's what it used to use. It's all wireless now.

As for the two data, we have an apple tv under our tv, along with a game system. Like you I like everything on wires.

I also ran a ton of co-ax everywhere.. Totally unnecessary. I use a FireTV box for over the air, so only need one antenna connection. It rebroadcasts to TVs via Cat 5.

Doing it over again, I'd run 2 x Cat 6 drops to every TV. If a pinch, you can do high def HDMI over Cat 6 (dual, I believe).

 

[cgrutt]

I just ran a 2" piece of pvc with two elbows. Strapped pvc to a stud and finished the drywall around ends of the elbows. There was a cabinet in front of the lower section and the TV was in front of upper section never saw it in normal use. I had a standard outlet behind TV but needed to run a separate surge protector for the monitor just mounted it to the wall bracket worked just fine.

 

[Jsf721]

I just ran a 2" piece of pvc with two elbows. Strapped pvc to a stud and finished the drywall around ends of the elbows. There was a cabinet in front of the lower section and the TV was in front of upper section never saw it in normal use. I had a standard outlet behind TV but needed to run a separate surge protector for the monitor just mounted it to the wall bracket worked just fine.

Would a whole house surge protector save the the individual surge protector at the expensive electrical items ?

 

[cgrutt]

Would a whole house surge protector save the the individual surge protector at the expensive electrical items ?

I don't know. I was using a pretty good Monster Cable power conditioner for entertainment center but didn't want to run a separate power line from monitor to my stereo rack so just installed a separate one behind the monitor. I believe the second conditioner was also made by Monster Cable IIRC. This was about 15 years ago I'm sure equipment has changed and improved since then but don't have any experience with it.

ETA the one at rack was something like this.



One at monitor was something like this.

 

[u2slow]

Would a whole house surge protector save the the individual surge protector at the expensive electrical items ?

Check the joules rating of the whole-house vs the individual ones.

Most power splitters today have a very minimal surge protector just to say they have one.

I now run a UPS on my internet and home theater stuff.

 

[sparky 1971]

I screw one side of a mud ring to the studs and run a 1" smurf pipe with a string in it between them. Then a simple low voltage cover with a pass through at the trim out stage.

https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-boxes-covers/extenders-covers-mud-rings/raco-1-gang-galvanized-steel-5-8-raised-4-square-electrical-box-mud-ring/8768/p-1444451774781-c-6427.htm?tid=19d7e55f-c0ef-4601-87e4-3ea1a2496d89&ipos=13&exp=false

https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/conduit-conduit-fittings-raceways/conduit/ent-conduit/bpfect006/p-1642874268672651-c-6423.htm

https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electronics/audio-video-home-networking/home-networking/legrand-reg-on-q-light-almond-low-voltage-brush-strap-with-wall-plate/wp1014lav1/p-1549006193308-c-12560.htm?tid=4833662371171529300&ipos=16

I've also just used the mud rings alone when they are directly above and below each other. Just use a string with a little weight tied to it and drop it from the high to the low ring for the first pull. Every time a cable is pulled in, add a string with it for the next time.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

At the lake on an outside wall I ran 2 3/4” stubs from my crawl space to a square 4” box. I had to shave the HDMI cable sides a bit to facilitate pulling into place. I would go at least 2 1” pipes next time. If it is a matter of a few feet I wouldn’t worry about the HDMI being in a stub conduit.