In Wall Romex Splice Box

[Friartuck]

I recently visited a house renovation where I saw a simple plastic type splice box for a 14/2 romex circuit. This splice box was about 1/2 the size of a pack of cigarettes and used screw terminals. The claim was this is legal and proper for a splice and can be concealed behind a wall. I always thought that ANY splice or junction of any cable (BX, Non-metallic, conduit, etc) had to be at a junction box that was accessible. Can anyone shed some light on this with name brand or part number?? If true, when did this become allowable under NEC??

Chris

 

[gatchel]

Holmes on homes says "No hidden splices"...

Honestly I am not sure.

Is this what you saw:

http://www.ampnetconnect.com/documents/NM_Connector_Presentation_Rev3_Web.pdf

Check out page 16 of the pdf

 

[Norcal]

Holmes on homes says "No hidden splices"...

Honestly I am not sure.

Is this what you saw:

http://www.ampnetconnect.com/documents/NM_Connector_Presentation_Rev3_Web.pdf

Check out page 16 of the pdf

Holmes is a Canadian, & his statements come from a Canadian perspective that do not necessarily apply to areas that follow the NEC (the reverse is also true).


If the Amp connector that I think is in that link, (too lazy to look) they were intended for "manufactured homes" better called a "trailer" & not sure if they are allowed in stick built structures, even if they are allowed it's a poor practice.

 

[venom50svt]

My neighbor had a new kitchen put in and the guy who did it buried a box in the rock ceiling. After all was said and done everything was working great and then there was no lights.. they could not figure out where the problem,,, The problem was that one of the wire nuts in the hidden box had loosened up a tad causing a bad connection.. Now that could be arking and maybe cause a fire. Well they had to dig into the new ceiling, repair the electric and repair the hole.
Yea don't bury a box in the wall, if you find one run new wire to a place you can get at it..

 

[avc8130]

I don't disagree you shouldn't bury a BOX. However, wire nuts CAN come loose. I have never seen this product mentioned above. Maybe it "can't" come loose?

I forget what I was working on or where...but a buried junction box had me scratching my head for quite some time.

ac

 

[Norcal]

My neighbor had a new kitchen put in and the guy who did it buried a box in the rock ceiling. After all was said and done everything was working great and then there was no lights.. they could not figure out where the problem,,, The problem was that one of the wire nuts in the hidden box had loosened up a tad causing a bad connection.. Now that could be arking and maybe cause a fire. Well they had to dig into the new ceiling, repair the electric and repair the hole.
Yea don't bury a box in the wall, if you find one run new wire to a place you can get at it..

He buried a box because he is a hack...

 

[cowboyjosh]

Anyone who HIDES or BURIES a splice in a wall, UL approved device or NOT, is a HACK, HACK, HACK; same goes for the guys who bury boxes in ceilings and rock over it.

If its worth doing, its worth doing right and safe.