Incorrect garage door hinges?

[PT Doc]

Hi all.

So I came across Green Hinges and was thinking about getting them. On their chart for a 4 panel door I would use a #1, 2 and 3 number hinge on each side. I checked my door and mine are numbered 2, 3 and 4 starting from the bottom.

Both 8 foot and 16 ft door is a steel door that has trim around each panel on the exterior to make it look like a carriage door.

Any guess why the hinges would be 2,3,4 and not 1,2,3?

Thanks for the help!

 

[Sumboodie]

The # references the distance from mount to wheel.

 

[kbuhagiar]

Hi all.

So I came across Green Hinges and was thinking about getting them. On their chart for a 4 panel door I would use a #1, 2 and 3 number hinge on each side. I checked my door and mine are numbered 2, 3 and 4 starting from the bottom.

Both 8 foot and 16 ft door is a steel door that has trim around each panel on the exterior to make it look like a carriage door.

Any guess why the hinges would be 2,3,4 and not 1,2,3?

Thanks for the help!

Two things come to mind...either the original installer used the wrong hinges, or perhaps your doors are thicker (due to the decorative carriage trim), which would require the hinges to be sized differently (and thus 2-3-4 instead of 1-2-3).

My first impulse would be to size new hinges in accordance with what is there already (ergo 2-3-4).

Hoping that one of our garage door professionals can chime in to either confirm - or destroy - my theory.

 

[jstroede]

There could be a couple reasons that come to mind, but please show pictures of the inside of the door.

In either case, replace with the same number if everything is working correctly.

John

 

[PT Doc]

There could be a couple reasons that come to mind, but please show pictures of the inside of the door.

In either case, replace with the same number if everything is working correctly.

John

What are you thinking? The track distance from the framing would be directly related to door thickness. So any door thickness should be accomodatable be placing the track at the appropriate distance from the framing.

Still wondering about #2,3,4 hinges.

 

[jstroede]

Put up pictures and I will see what's there. While that is true, there are other factors that play into it. You can use 1-3 hinges for any door thickness.

 

[firebirdparts]

I guess it's just a preference of the manufacturer. As Sumboodie pointed out, 1-2-3 is a straight line. 1-2-3-4 is a straight line. 2-3-4 is a straight line. using a 234 instead of 123 would cause the door to be located in the universe in a slightly different location, but it would be straight.

Honestly, you don't care about any further discussion. If you want the door to be in the same spot, get hinges with the same dimensions. If you feel like 1-2-3, the door will just move toward the opening track a tiny smidgen and you probably won't mind.

 

[jstroede]

It's more than a tiny smidgen. It's 1/4"

 

[firebirdparts]

Plus it's toward the track. I wasn't clear. That could open a gap on your seals if they're old and used to being in a certain spot.

 

[PT Doc]

Here are a few photos.

 

[PT Doc]

The middle of the door could be tighter against the door frame for the 8 and 16 ft door. The top and bottom has a pretty good seal against the door frame.

 

[jstroede]

Ok so most likely they did that to work with the bottom roller carrier due to the fact that it is a covered door. It is not "incorrect". If you are going to replace, replace with the same numbers.

John

 

[PT Doc]

Ok so most likely they did that to work with the bottom roller carrier due to the fact that it is a covered door. It is not "incorrect". If you are going to replace, replace with the same numbers.

John

Thank you for the information and opinion.