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Increased Electrical Load - Summer Grid Load

mobiledynamics

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So for those affected .....

Hemming and hawing I might move our current stay digs to the summer retreat, which has a full blown genset on the property

Anyhow, just thinking outloud. Between the mass internet usage, and the potential this might roll into the summer with the entire -load- at home, is you area's grid up to snuff to sustain the extra electrical peak time loads or will it stain under use.
 
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99LeCouch

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Yes, since there's been a metric boatload of solar and wind going in over the past few years. A/C use tends to occur when solar is up, and wind can help fill in at night. And more interconnections to the regional grid to replace a local nuclear power plant nearing its end of life.
 

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Interesting question. Will the increase in residential cooling and other electrical use exceed the decrease in commercial and industrial electrical consumption?

My gut reaction is yes but that's just a WAG.
 

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Most commercial and residential loads occur at different times. Peak loads typically occur in the afternoon, about the time people are returning from work. This would lead me to believe that normally residential loads are the limiting factor, and that this won't be any different this year.
 
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mobiledynamics

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Load aside though, the demand is different on the lines, depending where one lives I suppose. Sure there is businesses in residential areas, and then there are commercial districts. Man, methinks I need to consider my preps and maybe buy me a fan or two.
 

wanderer

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Load aside though, the demand is different on the lines, depending where one lives I suppose. Sure there is businesses in residential areas, and then there are commercial districts. Man, methinks I need to consider my preps and maybe buy me a fan or two.

I hate to point out the obvious, but a fan won't work any better than the air conditioning when the power is out.
 

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A lot of businesses will still be closed this summer, including large users like steel mills, mines, and manufacturing. We’re in a recession so there’s no demand.

My Excelon stock has tanked.
 

firebirdparts

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So for those affected .....

Hemming and hawing I might move our current stay digs to the summer retreat, which has a full blown genset on the property

Anyhow, just thinking outloud. Between the mass internet usage, and the potential this might roll into the summer with the entire -load- at home, is you area's grid up to snuff to sustain the extra electrical peak time loads or will it stain under use.

it'll easily handle it here.
 
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zendriver

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Oh boy something else to worry about! :rolleyes: :beer:,

Where I live, if they need more electrical power, they make more.
 

wyliesdiesels

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I have a local co-op with 100,000 customers.

We generate some of our power the rest is imported from oregon and washington. Doubt its an issue
 

ROBZ71LM7

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I work for our electric utility at a power plant. Overall load is currently down. The drop in commercial/industrial demand is greater than an increase in residential demand.
 

rlitman

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My solar panels produce more power on sunny days.


The peak summer days where the grid is the most stressed, solar doesn’t help as much due to cloud cover and haze.

As someone who participates in a peak-shaving program, and who watches grid stability and usage across the state, I can say that days during a heat wave, where the possibility of thunderstorms rolling through exists (that changes operator parameters to be more conservative), are the highest peaks. Usually between 2-pm and 4-pm. Just watch the LBMP. That’s the price on the market to bring online just one more MW of capacity. It’s normally pretty stable, but on bad days, that number skyrockets.
 

theoldwizard1

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Lots of industry around here that is shutdown, but should be back up within 30-45 days (?). Summers are never an issue.

DIY solar is for real, especially if you stay small scale. A couple of 72 cell (300+ watt) panels, a couple of micro-inverters (one for each leg of 240VAC) and your in business. Prices keep dropping so payback keeps getting shorter.
 

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But solar is still more expensive than the grid


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jchetty

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This is a very valid question. At least in my area, commercial and residential customers are typically on different transformers. Usually each commercial customer has their own transformer(s) while residential customers are grouped together on a transformer.

In the summer time, you certainly see more outages due to in increased load. This could get very interesting if there is a heat wave and a stay-at-home.
 
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