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Industrial Air Compressor

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Hello, I know air compressors come up a lot, but I need some help since I can't seem to find any reviews on this Industrial Air Compressor:

ww.homedepot.com/p/Industrial-Air-80-Gal-Stationary-Electric-Air-Compressor-IV5048055/202053062#specifications

My old portable died over the weekend and time to upgrade. The local farm store has this compressor for $1250 and wanted your thoughts.

Thanks and sorry if I wasn't able to discover this compressor in the search engine.
 
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scw1991

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http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-2V41C60VC-Air-Compressor/p855.html
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001D5MU86/?tag=atomicindus08-20

type model # into Google and you'll be able to search for reviews. Seems to get pretty good reviews overall. It's got a 3450 RPM motor which I'm not a fan of but I believe Quincy uses Baldor motors which is a good sign. If it doesn't have either a Baldor or Leeson motor on it, I'd pass. The only reason I prefer 1725 RPM motors is that they have twice the torque of a 3450 RPM motors. You get what you pay for and unfortunately, going to a 1725 RPM motor that runs the compressor at a much slower speed will cost you another $500-$1000 easy.

It also looks like you'll need to purchase the Qty-2 maintenance kits in order to receive the 3 year warranty (according to some of the reviews I read).

Not sure if the compressor itself is actually Made in the USA or simply Assembled in the USA (if it matters to you). I'd assume the 60 gallon tank is.

For a home workshop environment, I see nothing wrong with this Quincy and would surely purchase it over anything from a big box store. Just make sure you understand the warranty and follow it to a tee.

Also, don't cram it up against a wall like I see so many folks do. These air compressors must be placed far enough away from the wall to allow proper air flow circulation through the flywheel fan and across the fins of the pump for adequate cooling. Also, make sure you wire this thing correctly. Since this motor draws 24 amps (nameplate rating), you'll want at least 8 gauge Romex wire (for runs less than 50' from your main breaker box). The 240v 2-pole breaker should be rated at 30 amps minimum. Per NEC code, you'll need a 30amp disconnect mounted on the wall next to the air compressor (if you want to follow NEC code....)

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-30-Amp-120-240-Volt-240-Watt-Fused-AC-Disconnect-TF30RCP/100576894
 
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Thank you very much for taking the time to help. Which Quincy or Champion model would you recommend with the slower rpm true 5hp motor with similar 15 cfm or greater flow in either 60 or 80 gallon tank?

Thanks again.
 

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scw1991 speaks the truth.

You may also need a magnetic starter (relay) for a motor of that size.
 

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Quincy QT-5 model 251CP80VCB or 251CS80VCB
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-251CP80VCB-Air-Compressor/p856.html

Champion....not sure.

Some 5HP 3450 RPM motors have a built-in thermal overload protection w/ reset button and the pressure switch is rated for 5HP (thus no need for a mag starter). I've never come across a 5HP 1725 RPM motor with this configuration on an air compressor. The ones I've seen have a dedicated mag starter with thermal overload protection (Square D 8911 series or Siemens are common).
 
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3450 doesn't always mean its bad if the pump was designed for it. But when you see IRs that were designed around 1725 and all of a sudden they run them twice as fast - thats bad.
 

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For champion, a VR5-8 is the standard 2 stage 80 gallon 5 hp. Compressor. If there is no mag starter then it's typically 3450 rpm motor. You can use anywhere from a 3-5 hp motor. I have one with a 3 hp Baldor 1725. At this point in my life I'm not doing a hell of a lot more than airing up tires. BUT I could go to. A 7.5 HP motor, and jump to 26 ish Cfm.
 

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I don't know about that particular unit, but I've been walking by H-D's compressor selection on an almost daily basis since I bought the money pit next door, and other than the tank everything looks tiny compared to my Champion.
 
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Yes, I hate to say this, but it seems Quincy is following in the shadows of Ingersoll- Rand and producing some very low quality compressors to be pushed through the big box stores. Their trying to compete with the cheep foreign garbage as IR has and they too will tarnish their good name and reputation in doing so.
 

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I agree with C96 but it really depends on your usage of this compressor. For home workshop, I'm sure it will work just fine for you. If you want a compressor for an industrial application running 24/7, I'd stick with a unit that has a 1725 RPM motor.

Compressor manufacturers aren't stupid. To get maximum CFM out of a pump, you must have either large cubic inch cylinder bores or speed. Industrial rated pumps have large cubic inch cylinder bores but they turn at a slow speed using a 1725 RPM motor to obtain maximum service life. On the flip side, majority of big box store pumps have smaller cubic inch bores and turn at a faster speed using a more economical 3450 RPM motor.

Also, industrial rated compressors will incorporate a dedicated mag starter on the motor with thermal overload protection. The mag starter coil gets wired into the pressure switch contacts and the amperage draw across the electrical contacts of the pressure switch is less than an amp.

Whereas, big box store compressors incorporate a simple push button type reset thermostat mounted within the motor. In this case, the pressure switch electrical contacts see the full amperage rating of the motor every time the motor starts/stops.

Another topic most folks aren't aware of is that motors are capable of only so many start/stops per hour to achieve maximum service life (otherwise referred to as duty cycle). As you can see, A 4-pole motor (1725 RPM) is capable of twice as many starts per hour as a 2-pole motor (3450 RPM).
http://www.joliettech.com/allowable_starts-intervals.htm

I had a IR 2475-N5 5HP 80 gallon vertical air compressor for 10 years and it was simply overkill for my small weekend warrior workshop projects. Sure....it looked cool sitting in the corner of the garage and every time it fired up, you could feel the exhilarating vibration through the concrete slab. This is an industrial rated compressor with 100% duty cycle meant to run 24/7/365. Unless you are running a tire shop where impact guns are buzzing car parts off all day long or you are using DA sanders and other pneumatic tools in a paint & body shop continuously you are most likely not going to get your money's worth in my opinion spending $2,000+ on an industrial rated compressor.

Prior to owning the IR, my father made an air compressor system for me. He took an industrial rated compressor out of a diesel truck used for the brake system. This compressor mounted off the engine and was driven off the crankshaft pulley. He modified the mounting bracket, mounted it to a simple 125 psi rated 12 gallon tank and installed a 1-1/2HP motor. I used it for 20+ years. The only downside was the tank was too small when I wanted to use an impact gun to buzz off lug nuts, etc. The compressor simply couldn't keep up as it was only rated for 4 or 5 CFM and the tank was simply too small. However, in hindsight, what I should have done is simply purchase a 175 psi rated 30 gallon tank. What you can't make up for in compressor CFM output, you can often make up for in use of a larger tank with higher psi rating. This would have more than satisfied my requirements.
 
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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Industri...Compressor-IV5048055/202053062#specifications

I'd personally pass on a compressor this expensive that uses a 3450 RPM motor.

You'd be much better off spending a few extra hundred dollars to purchase an IR, Quincy, or Champion compressor that uses a "true" 5HP 1725 RPM NEMA 184 frame motor.



This

The slower running compressors last much longer

Depends on how much you use it and what for

If it’s for inflating the occasional flat tire
Any compressor will do

Also what kind of power to you have ?

Any industrial compressor is going to require three phase power

Stay far far away from atlas Copco
 

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Quincy QT-5 model 251CP80VCB or 251CS80VCB
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-251CP80VCB-Air-Compressor/p856.html

Champion....not sure.

Some 5HP 3450 RPM motors have a built-in thermal overload protection w/ reset button and the pressure switch is rated for 5HP (thus no need for a mag starter). I've never come across a 5HP 1725 RPM motor with this configuration on an air compressor. The ones I've seen have a dedicated mag starter with thermal overload protection (Square D 8911 series or Siemens are common).

I have the Quincy 251cp80vcb. I have super happy with added. Added a Quincy silencer to quiet it down more and she puts out plenty of air for me. I added a a Leviton motor rated switch in a Leviton switch enclosure, hour meter, 1/4 turn ball valve with garden hose thread for oil drain and plumbed the tank drain to a bucket. Now it’s great.
 
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