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Larryjones

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I don't think you can improve on the ole Stanley 99. You would just put some useless frillies on it and charge more. If an improvement had to be made it would be the blade release button on top, it can be a nuisance when you have to bear down and your thumb pushes the button.
 

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redesigning utility knife and input would really help me. This is a short 10 question survey. any input would be good.

also any comments on what a utility knife needs or s feature that is really loved would be helpful.

Have you not heard of the statement 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' ?

I don't think any redesign is needed on a product that has nearly 1000s of iterations based on the same blade type.
 

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Buy it and see. It made out of cast Zinc. It has a good amount of weight to it for good control. The blade re-tractor works very smooth. It is easy to grip. I have used and collected a bunch of utility knifes and its the best. The newer china model is not as nice.
 

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I would love to see a utility knife with a laser to guide the cut. Also add an anti vibration feature to it. Maybe a LED light to illuminate the cutting area.

Oh and add some type of blue tooth homing feature so I can find it when I lay it down.
 

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Have you not heard of the statement 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' ?

I don't think any redesign is needed on a product that has nearly 1000s of iterations based on the same blade type.

Hey, they have to choose something. :dunno:
Why fix the sawzall?
*hackzall comes out, people love it*
 

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They are nicer for work that requires fine control and/or a high level of blade pressure. What do you use, a Stanley 199? That's about all I ever see at garage sales in terms of non-retractables.

Yes just a simple Stanley. Not sure on the model number.
 

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The difficulty in answering these questions lies in the name, utility knife. Unless you want to create a specialty tool, it's just a hunk of metal that holds razor blades. Fold-ups, retractables, self-retracting, fixed blade, snap off, etc. all exist. I own all of these types that I've mentioned and each has it's own role. The fold up stays on the tool belt. Retractable in the electrical bag and other bags. Fixed blade for making gaskets. Snap-off for cutting insulation. Self-retracting ***** and I never use it, even when I was box cutting for 4 years. My point is, it's difficult to innovate without narrowing your scope.

A word about box cutting: no one is going to put a utility knife through its paces like someone who works receiving, packing and unpacking boxes all damn day. You drop it, holster and retract it hundreds of times a day, even use it as a door stop (not at the bottom, the corner up top where the torque is). The one knife design that ever made me work significantly faster was a double-sided Husky (C.H. Hanson also had a very similar version, Husky probably rebranded it). Standard blade on one end, hook blade on the other. It's not the same as having a guthook, you get better access with a hook blade. Just flip it in your hand and go. The problem is they never lasted long because of the cheap internals. If someone could make a good one of those I'd buy it again.

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Buy it and see. It made out of cast Zinc. It has a good amount of weight to it for good control. The blade re-tractor works very smooth. It is easy to grip. I have used and collected a bunch of utility knifes and its the best. The newer china model is not as nice.

Meh. I'll pass. My well worn USA Stanley 99 hasn't given me any reason to look elsewhere...
 

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The Lutz 82 is very similar to the Stanley 10-079. I have used both and just like the lutz better. Just like you have a favorite ratchet I have a favorite knife. I might be bias.
The lutz is a little fatter, a little heavier, and shaped a little different. Lutz has a better retractor.

Lutz weights 6.85 oz

Stanley weights 5.45 oz

Gotta love the Garage Journal only place where anyone would care. :beer:

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+1, thanks Brooks. Great pics. If I come across one of the Lutz's I'll keep it in mind...

I notice the tip/nose on the Lutz is quite a bit wider...
 
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I would love to see a utility knife with a laser to guide the cut. Also add an anti vibration feature to it. Maybe a LED light to illuminate the cutting area.

Oh and add some type of blue tooth homing feature so I can find it when I lay it down.


:thumbup: :lol:
 

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Built in LED light.

Bluetooth connectivity and GPS so you can find it.

Blade storage in the handle with a mechanism to eject the old and insert the new without opening the knife. Maybe a magazine full of 10 blades.

Built in measuring tape and removable pencil/scribe.

Built in laser level and leveling bubble.

Extendible screwdriver shank (ratcheting) with bits.

Owners ID plate and contact info.

Attached key fob.

Racing stripes.

Bill
 
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I have well over a dozen different utlilty knives. I carried one everyday until I went to a knife, and then a leatherman.. My absolute favorite, and what I think is the best designed utility knife ever is the Milwaukee Fasback. The original one..
 
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Glad you guys liked the pics. It worth mentioning there is a knife that has all the great quality's of the lutz 82 and also has quick changing blades. The Lutz 88 unfortunately It is made in Taiwan. There is a few US ones out there but they are rare. The knife is nice and the quick change is slick, but I don't use it much. I bought it and it was supose to be a NOS US one and it was not.

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My company has a bunch of morons who can't use knives properly. As a result, I would love to see a good auto retracting knife. The ones we have now require constant thumb pressure, and constant down pressure which makes them difficult to use.

Otherwise, the Stanley 10-788 is my favorite utility knife. Slightly bigger than the 99 and it doesn't require a tool for blade changes.
 
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Best knife - EVER...... ( this is the original fastback)


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Video demo of the Milwaukee Fastback 3 - probably the most engineered utility knife ever. They just keep adding / improving features.. I still prefer the original though. It's so thin, you don't even know it's in your pocket, and just feels great in the hand.

 
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A word about box cutting: no one is going to put a utility knife through its paces like someone who works receiving, packing and unpacking boxes all damn day. You drop it, holster and retract it hundreds of times a day, even use it as a door stop (not at the bottom, the corner up top where the torque is). The one knife design that ever made me work significantly faster was a double-sided Husky (C.H. Hanson also had a very similar version, Husky probably rebranded it). Standard blade on one end, hook blade on the other. It's not the same as having a guthook, you get better access with a hook blade. Just flip it in your hand and go. The problem is they never lasted long because of the cheap internals. If someone could make a good one of those I'd buy it again.

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Nowadays, I can't imagine any receiving dept. (in a company of decent size) being allowed to use a utility knife. You have to use a "safety box cutter".
 

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Are you asking whether the Lutz holds utility blades that have two notches or three notches along the top edge?

An Ace blade is not the same, it is shorter. A Stanley blade doesn't fit in them I don't believe and while the Ace hwd blade fits its not right. They look similar but if you stack them they are not. I have seen other brands the same. They are not exact.
 

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I tried to take the survey but the questions were too vague or didn't have good multiple choice answers.

so, I use a Stanley fixed blade when I don't want the sloppiness of a retractable blade.

cheap retractables ****, they don't stay in position.

plastic or ill fitting handle bodys ****.

the other utility knife I use most often is a folding type that is a no-tool design for changing the blade. that is the only real advancement in the utility knife design I have seen worth a hoot.

as far as gut hook, I have a few with them but find the feature useless for anything I have ever used a knife for. And you cannot gut a deer with one, a real gut hook is much larger/deeper on a hunting knife. I presume it is good for cutting plastic straps or thin wire maybe but not a feature I would ever look for.

hope that helps the OP...
 

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An Ace blade is not the same, it is shorter. A Stanley blade doesn't fit in them I don't believe and while the Ace hwd blade fits its not right. They look similar but if you stack them they are not. I have seen other brands the same. They are not exact.

The Lutz will take either, but I have a snap-on knife that needs the shorter one. You can put a long one(Stanley) in one at a time but you can't store any in the handle.

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I like these old Olfas best.
-snap off blades
-single handed extension and retraction
-not a lot of material around the point is nice especially for fine work
-feels good
-easy to see
-not that expensive

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The Stanley 099 is an old favourite. I have also taken a liking to the Stanley 10-804
 

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I have to ask the OP, since you want us to volunteer information and do market research for you. Are you going to participate in the discussion? If not, I suggest using the search function and gleaning the information through years of discussions that are archived here.
 

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I prefer Olfas or snap off blades personally - yes, they snap off at inopportune times but you can adjust the length of the edge which is a pro over conventional blades.
 

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I think the best improvement would be to make a flat striking surface on the **** end of the knife - to use as a hitting /tapping tool.. Like leatherman designed into one of their multi tools.
 

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My favorite knives are my lenox ones. I have the retractable blade in my tool belt, and the folding one in my back pocket in the weekends!
 

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Sorry, but I don't get these sorts of questions. How does a professor ask a student to redesign a super developed utilitarian item? Yeah, the students will come up with lasers or adding a nut driver or hammer to the **** end, neither of which will be useful and will never be commercially successful. How is that helpful for students? You can't improve products thru market research alone. You have to be infinitely intimately familiar with its manufacturing and use.

One more. As an industrial product designer, I meet a lot of young people with big ideas who seem confused about what industrial design is and is not. 1/10% of industrial designers work on eureka products like iPods. Everybody else develops existing products and makes improvements through problem solving.

If you are interested in utility knives and want a great idea for a boutique product, make new sharper blades. Offer CPM blades, carbide, or scalpel sharp tool steel blades instead of the rubbish bog standard blades. Make the existing product work better.
 
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