#$@&ing Tweakers!

[1967marti]

So a few hours ago and i hear the dogs going crazy on the back porch. I head out there to take a look and i see a truck (with someone in the drivers seat) and some guy next to my garage. By the time i get down there (detached garage about 200 yards away) the truck takes off. Looking around i see the corner of the garage door kicked in, a big spool of 4/16 wire missing and my big drill press dragged into the garage driveway! This is in broad daylight!

I'm almost finished installing an alarm system in the garage (got a kit from homesecuritystore) but now i need to get a new garage door!

The whole reason i was installing the system was because i was worried about the shop/garage while i was at work, i never thought someone would do it while i was at home!

 

[Ray916MN]

Would an invisible fence be possible? Thieves really stay away from dogs.

 

[where2]

They'll swipe stuff while you're home if they are desparate enough. 10+ years ago a neighbor and his son were up on the roof working on something on a 1 story ranch home in an old 1960's neighborhood. Thief walked up and rode off down the street on the son's bicycle that was sitting in the garage. Yes, the garage door was open, but it's always been a neighborhood where you could leave your garage door open on Saturday and didn't have to worry about such things.

NOT ANYMORE!

On two occasions, my father has had his golf cart stolen by punk kids who joy rode it down the street and over 5 blocks. When the adult responsible for that delinquent moved many many neighbors rejoiced!

Then there was the 6 year old who threw a rock or a nut at my car when I drove by one day while trying to impress his friend...

 

[1967marti]

I live in a rocky area of SOCAL so an invisible fence prob wouldn't work. Besides, in this backwards state I'd probably get sued if my dogs took a chunk out of the crack-head metal thieves while they were carting off my property.
I think I'm going to take the day off tomorrow and finish up the alarm install and meet with a few garage door guys for some quotes....

 

[taterdog]

shoot em all.

 

[trbomax]

At only 200 yds that would have been an easy shot.

 

[goodspeed]

Agreed.

 

[Norcal]

At only 200 yds that would have been an easy shot.

He is in California, the sleaze in charge would make a example of him.

But think how much money it would save if the scum did not have to be jailed, & instead was shot but with the new prison "realignment" those who would have got a shorter prison sentence now go to a county jail.

 

[Man of Many Vices]

I had $4,000 worth of chainsaws and other power, welding equipment, etc. stolen from my tool shed, just 50 feet from my front door while we were having dinner inside. The gate was shut just before dinner; my dad noticed it was open just after dinner. Inside job, or friends of worker I ran off a couple weeks earlier.... Damned tweakers.

 

[mustanginky]

this world is becoming a sick place to live. it's frustrating as hell that people would rather invest their time taking from someone else than getting a damn job and working for a living.

 

[Armed Bear]

In this tough economy and with everybody stealing tools I keep all of my expensive tools chained up inside a locked tool shed in the backyard and I also have 2 guard dogs that weigh 95 pounds...I've had a few power tools stolen a few years ago and I just can't afford to replace that stuff, especially with the high gas prices.

 

[Armed Bear]

Those tweakers take one hit of that glass pipe and they're hooked for life!

 

[darkk]

It's **** just like this that made me connect my garage to the house and install steel doors and no windows. I do have two dogs and the neighbors already think I'm crazy.

 

[Bad Jackson]

You never mentioned why you didnt shoot them...
A 180 grain 30.06 bullet will cover that distance a helluva lot faster than you or I would.

Look on the bright side, you still have your drill press.

Sorry about your break-in.

Munsk

 

[chief ben]

It is bad every where now days, we are a little better off than most people around here, we have 5 ft chain link in front and 6 ft in back, and we have so many light up it looks like day light out side at night,
in Arkansas you can not shoot some one for stealing from you,
and when you call the sheriff's office it take them an hour to come out and
then it is to late.






Garland County Sheriff's Department

Entered: 2 days, 20 hours ago

Burglaries are up in all areas of the County. Please remain vigilant in reporting suspicious activity or vehicles. More
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Burglaries are up in all areas of the County. Please remain vigilant in reporting suspicious activity or vehicles.


We have seen an increase in the number of reported burglaries in the county over the recent months, even with the arrest of several involved in recent burglaries and thefts.

The majority of these have involved residences where the doors have been kicked in, during the daytime hours.

We would like to remind everyone to remain alert and be vigilant to suspicious activity, persons and vehicles in your neighborhoods and around your businesses and to call the Sheriff's Department if you spot any activity that is out of the ordinary.

 

[wedge40]

Ya all need get a woodchipper and a backhoe. Gotta have someplace to hide the bodies.
Or if you're lucky enough to live near a mining operation, those air shaft go a long way into the ground.
Sorry to hear about your loss(es). Let us know about the your security system when you get it done.

Wedge

 

[uniballer]

Ya all need get a woodchipper and a backhoe. Gotta have someplace to hide the bodies.
Or if you're lucky enough to live near a mining operation, those air shaft go a long way into the ground.
Sorry to hear about your loss(es). Let us know about the your security system when you get it done.

Wedge

Woodchipper leaves evidence! Simple shovel, man power(one person!), and remote location.

 

[jon.human]

we have a crack head that wanders the town I live in, we were getting our little boy off the school bus and our dog ran around the house... we thought maybe we didn't latch the door or something. We noticed the lady walking up the sidewalk with her bag but didn't think anything about it she's always begging for money.Well whe took my wife's laptop out of our mud room. The local police were worthless. they refused to do anything. they said they didn't have enough evidence. they didn't even fingerprint the room.

 

[Burtonrider10022]

we have a crack head that wanders the town I live in, we were getting our little boy off the school bus and our dog ran around the house... we thought maybe we didn't latch the door or something. We noticed the lady walking up the sidewalk with her bag but didn't think anything about it she's always begging for money.Well whe took my wife's laptop out of our mud room. The local police were worthless. they refused to do anything. they said they didn't have enough evidence. they didn't even fingerprint the room.

Evidence tech + fingerprint materials + crime lab costs probably equal more than the value of the laptop. It still *****, and I'm not making excuses for them, just trying to put into perspective. Not every patrol cop has the training, certification, or equipment for evidence collection.

 

[NWphotog]

Man, you guys need to move.

 

[ra42mario]

Yeah shoot somebody stealing out of your garage/shed.... spend the rest of your life in prison over personal belongings

Install the good alarm system, keep up on your insurance policy, and live life.

 

[ddawg16]

Yeah shoot somebody stealing out of your garage/shed.... spend the rest of your life in prison over personal belongings

Install the good alarm system, keep up on your insurance policy, and live life.

A realist.....thanks for not fueling the trolls......we need more members with this attitude....

 

[trbomax]

Yeah shoot somebody stealing out of your garage/shed.... spend the rest of your life in prison over personal belongings

Install the good alarm system, keep up on your insurance policy, and live life.

Never said to shoot the perp,just put one about 2" above his rt ear. He would probably **** himself or be so scared he would lay there shakeing while you go down and cuff him properly.

 

[KMinAF]

I have always told my boys "never let them see under the hood" this could also apply to garage doors. I figure if they don't see anything of value then they are less tempted to break in.

 

[porschedude996TT]

Ya all need get a woodchipper and a backhoe. Gotta have someplace to hide the bodies.
Or if you're lucky enough to live near a mining operation, those air shaft go a long way into the ground.
Sorry to hear about your loss(es). Let us know about the your security system when you get it done.

Wedge

So how many Tweekers can the average mine shaft vent hold?

Sorry, I just like math problems.

So if two Thieving Tweekers are running/traveling at the same speed, one behind the other, and a 240 grain FMJ 44Mag approaches the opposite direction, how many IQ points will the first tweeker loose compared to the second tweeker?

 

[schmelpboy]

Unfortunately we live in a society where people think that the dredges of society are still worth something, no matter how many crimes they commit or how heinous they are. All they think about is, "it's just an object, not worth your/their life." The question I ask is, "What's a leech's life worth, anyways?" If they contribute nothing, and take from those that do, are they really worth more than the stuff they've stolen? Until people face reality, that not all people are worth anything, the criminals seem to have more rights to your property than you do.

 

[1967marti]

Ya, I always have my glock on standby, but i wasn't about to start shooting down my hill. Luckily my dogs gave me a heads-up and they (the scum) got scared when they saw me coming down the hill. I could of let the dogs out, I'm damn sure they would have gotten the perp before he could have made it to the truck, but last thing i want is to get sued AND have my dogs put-down for doing their job. California sux...

On a good note i got the alarm installed and working, plus I'm having a steel reinforced roll-up door installed first thing next week. Also called my home insurance company (farmers) and had a long talk with my agent to make sure all of my tools are covered in-case of theft. He said to just make sure that i have a list of all tools with pictures and serial numbers so the police report that i submit to him will be as detailed as possible and i will get the max amount of cash (whatever the fair market value is at the time).

I've read tons of post on here about fires and break-ins, and how important it is to have a good list, serial numbers and pictures but I've never done it. Took a twarted-robbery to motivate to finally do it.

Funny thing is, because of a break-in down the street i framed and filled in the man-door and large window in the garage to discourage easy entry into the garage. Never thought they would just kick-in my old wood tilt-up garage door. "crack is a hell of a drug" as Rick James would say.

Called the cops after it happened, they couldn't care less. Can i blame them? Yes... because it is my stuff. But also NO because nothing VERY bad happened and I'm sure someone else needed their help much more than me at the time.

But to everyone who says its not OK to shoot a robber caught in-the-act, i question where is the line where you can say "I did everything I could to make my home/shop/garage safe and hardened against break-ins." ? If i see someone loading up a truck with my welders am i supposed to call the cops and yell insulting things at them until (if and when) the cops have time to show up? Can i use a baseball bat to persuade them to leave? Spray them with a garden hose? Technically, Making any physical contact with them is "assaulting" them as I'm sure any public defender will be more than happy to point out. I don't want to kill anyone... but i also don't want to have to loose the 2k deductible to get the "fare market value" for all my tools that have taken years of saving and searching to amass.

 

[Toomanytools?]

I always thought this would be a good policy:
Yes, this is the law in a lot Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia. In Muslim countries , the Qur'an instructs one to eat with your right hand and to clean yourself after going to the bathroom with your left hand. Never to do one with the other. So, the punishment for stealing is to cut off the right hand so you have to eat your food with your left hand. So its a doubly terrible punishment but of course within reasons. People often see this as barbarous and just cruel yet if you have gone to any Islamic country e.g Saudi for example you will find crime rate is at a lowest and the sense of security is outstanding. Though seen as Barbarous it keeps crime rate extremely low and not a single Islamic country is even in the top 30 highest **** list.
If you are foolish enough to steal a second time? bye bye lefty! However it is effective and most people value their hands more than a brand new watch or a pair of earrings. It has its reasons of course, cruel in a sense but not cruel on innocent people right?
From Shakil Rahman.

 

[Ray-CA]

Yeah shoot somebody stealing out of your garage/shed.... spend the rest of your life in prison over personal belongings

Install the good alarm system, keep up on your insurance policy, and live life.

You could always follow this guys method....

HOW TO CALL THE POLICE
Roger Gresse, an elderly man, from Zanesville, OH, was going up to bed, when his wife told him that he'd left the light on in the garden shed. Roger opened the back door to go turn off the light, but saw that there were people in the shed stealing things.

He phoned the police, who asked, "Is someone in your house?"

He said "No," but some people are breaking into my garden shed and stealing from me."

Then the police dispatcher said. "All patrols are busy. You should lock your doors and an officer will be along when one is available."

Roger said, "Okay."

He hung up the phone and counted to 30.

Then he phoned the police again.

"Hello, I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people stealing things from my shed. Well, you don't have to worry about them now because I just shot them," and he hung up.

Within five minutes, six police cars, a SWAT team, a helicopter, two fire trucks, a paramedic, and an ambulance showed up at the Gresse residence, and caught the burglars red-handed.

One of the policemen said to Roger, "I thought you said that you'd shot them!"

Roger said, "I thought you said there was nobody available!"

 

[O_M_Jeep]

It isnt bad all over, yes, there is meth-heads everywhere, here in Wyoming there are about 400,000 people, we have tons of jobs, everyone who wants to work, works, oh yeah, we also have a little over a million registered firearms and some fairly corrupt police departments.

In 13 years there has been one theft in my neighborhood, my next door neighbor left a 12 pack of beer in the back of his truck while carrying in groceries and got sidetracked putting away the frozen, well, yeah, some kids got his beer. About every 5 or 6 years someone gets shot, but they usualy have the common courtesy to get married first.

We do have a pretty full prison here, and a very nice very large jail for those who cant quite seem to follow the rules. We also know our chief of police by his first name and he knows us, we know where he is and he knows when were not home, we know the kids on the block and their parents, we know their grand-parents sometimes too.

What I dont know is anyone who locks their doors, I do however know a few people who will call 911 first, and a few who wont.

 

[AeroNautiCal]

It really is ridiculous to suggest killing people for damage to a garage door, worse still to consider murdering them and secreting the bodies.

Securing, alarming and insuring one's property is the very basic level to attain.

There have always been thieves, however, the methods to counter them have improved greatly, as has the information available to do so.

Countless millions of people have learned how to protect their property without recourse to killing potential thieves, some of the posters on this thread should consider doing the same.

 

[trbomax]

Unfortunately we live in a society where people think that the dredges of society are still worth something, no matter how many crimes they commit or how heinous they are. All they think about is, "it's just an object, not worth your/their life." The question I ask is, "What's a leech's life worth, anyways?" If they contribute nothing, and take from those that do, are they really worth more than the stuff they've stolen? Until people face reality, that not all people are worth anything, the criminals seem to have more rights to your property than you do.

I personally agreee with this, but I'm not in charge (yet).

 

[Turbo_Prop]

Interesting how the majority of responses favoring non-violence against thieves are coming from posters in California or outside the US. Hmmmm.

 

[Maexle]

Well, i wouldn't shoot somebody for a few wrenches / tools, i WOULD shoot him for threatening my family / breaking into the house. BUT even then if he would take off as soon as he realizes that somebody is in the house and try to run away i would probably fire in the air and not shoot to kill......BUT, if he would break although it is obvious that somebody is at home (cars parked in the drive way, lights on, noise, TV) i would aim good.

 

[camarotoolman]

Keep you dogs in your garage. Around here ya that the body out in the swamp, the gators and hogs do the rest!

 

[O_M_Jeep]

No, the tools / property / items stolen arent worth taking a life, I agree.

I also know if I drive in to a brick wall in a car I'm going to be killed.
I also know if I ignore the high voltage signs and grab that cable, I'm going to be killed.
I also know if I break in to someones house in gun loving America, I'm going to be killed.

It isnt about the value of life vs the value of possesions, in the end it's about the value you place on your own life, and these people have little self-worth evidently to take such risks.

If you break in to houses you must expect the home owner to protect their sanctity, if you handle a snake, you get bit, if you rob a bank, you go to prison, you come in my house, you get shot, maybe if your very unlucky I'm a bad shot and your miserable drug addicted life keeps grinding along, ultimatley it is the choice of the thief to NOT enter / live.

 

[Armed Bear]

I won't shoot somebody for stealing tools, but I will give him an *** kicking he won't forget.....and if the police come I tell them it was self defense, that's what I did when my drunk neighbor picked a fight with me and I beat him down good and told the cops it was self defense, you got the right to defend yourself but it's too bad some politicians are against it, I think they're turning this nation soft.

 

[atwageman]

I gotta friend that has a pair of german shepards that can't bark (it's a military thing). Some meth heads broke into his man cave. Poor tweakers didn't have a chance. They lived (minus some flesh). What really strange is the tweekers were found laying on the side of the road about 10 miles from the crime scene......and for the life them they couldn't ID the two guys that dropped them off there according to the police.

 

[Maexle]

I won't shoot somebody for stealing tools, but I will give him an *** kicking he won't forget...

Well, nothing wrong with that, i'd probably give invite them for the next day again just for the fun of it....

Leave some tools on the drive way and wait till they show up..... (i know, but i could use this kind of "blowing some steam off" sometimes)

 

[wedge40]

It really is ridiculous to suggest killing people for damage to a garage door, worse still to consider murdering them and secreting the bodies.

Securing, alarming and insuring one's property is the very basic level to attain.

There have always been thieves, however, the methods to counter them have improved greatly, as has the information available to do so.

Countless millions of people have learned how to protect their property without recourse to killing potential thieves, some of the posters on this thread should consider doing the same.

We just have a different outlook on thieves. I can guarantee if I kill someone that I catch stealing my stuff, that person will never, EVER be a problem again.