Ingersol Rand T30 2545E 10 Hp Experience?

[SBOhio]

Found used Ingersol Rand T30 2545E 10 Hp locally for sale. Does anyone have experience with these 10 hp compressors. I have older Quincy 325 that run and run but not much experience with the Ingersol Rands. I think it's 7 or 8 years old. I see some bad wraps on some of there smaller stuff.

 

[SBOhio]

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[jdjm]

10 Hp got to be 3 phase. Do you have 3 phase power?

 

[unashamedlaborer]

It will be three phase for sure. They are basically a scaled up 2475 pump. Same BS marketing. The 2475 is truly a 5hp pump but they sell it in both 5hp and 7.5hp. Only difference is they over clock the **** out of it. Same with the 2545 series. It is a decent 10hp pump but doesn't hold up as well in the 15hp config. Also FYI the valve design on these pumps is ok but nothing compared to an older t10 ir pump or any of the others (quincy, Kellogg, champion, etc...) BTW in case you have not heard one of these pumps run they are LOUD.

 

[SBOhio]

I have 3 phase. It is not wired so I didn't hear it run. What do you mean by "clock the **** out of them"? Do you mean they just speed them up? What about parts for Ingersol Rand? Any good sources? I saw a major rebuild kit yesterday on ebay for $500.

 

[unashamedlaborer]

I have 3 phase. It is not wired so I didn't hear it run. What do you mean by "clock the **** out of them"? Do you mean they just speed them up? What about parts for Ingersol Rand? Any good sources? I saw a major rebuild kit yesterday on ebay for $500.

Yeah they spin them fast. Parts are not an issue at all. You can buy every single part of the pump either factory or aftermarket. If you need a hard part let me know. There are probably 10 or so of them in the bone yard at work. What color is the unit? The older ones are grey, they make them cheaper every year it seems.

 

[SBOhio]

This unit is cream. Someone had mentioned on Quincy that the authorized dealers where shipping chinese bearings. Then someone added that the Quincy manual part #'s were the Timken #'s. I was wondering if it was the same for Ingersol or if everything is Chinese? Thanks for the offer on parts. I picked up another older "Grey" unit with double 5 hp on a 120g horizontal tank Sat. Was thinking of the newer one as a spare of future use in my Garage I'm planning. Thanks for the help!

 

[unashamedlaborer]

This unit is cream. Someone had mentioned on Quincy that the authorized dealers where shipping chinese bearings. Then someone added that the Quincy manual part #'s were the Timken #'s. I was wondering if it was the same for Ingersol or if everything is Chinese? Thanks for the offer on parts. I picked up another older "Grey" unit with double 5 hp on a 120g horizontal tank Sat. Was thinking of the newer one as a spare of future use in my Garage I'm planning. Thanks for the help!

Most all of the new units are made in India. We don't end up rebuilding many of them mostly just get bare pumps do to the cost of labor. That being said usually the bearings we do get are Timken or skf ect... I would imagine oem is Chinese or the like however. The new India pumps don't even have rod inserts they are just bare aluminum 1pc on the steel crank. That's why I say older is better with an IR pump.

 

[SBOhio]

That's what I was thinking. $500 for parts. I think I saw the pump for $1200. It wouldn't be worth it.

 

[slowzuki]

I have an older T30, it was rated at 5 hp ran pretty slow. Noticed the same compressor now has a 7.5 hp motor and spins 50% faster. The older ones running slow are quite quiet, not sure about the new high rpm versions.

 

[unashamedlaborer]

I have an older T30, it was rated at 5 hp ran pretty slow. Noticed the same compressor now has a 7.5 hp motor and spins 50% faster. The older ones running slow are quite quiet, not sure about the new high rpm versions.

Yours isn't even quiet compared to a quincy or Kellog American. That being said yeah the 7.5's are horrible. If you ever hear one run for any length of time you will question wether it will last more than a year. That being said those aren't even bad compared to a 2545e15. I won't even get out of my truck without earplugs when I roll up on a customer with one.

 

[unashamedlaborer]

That's what I was thinking. $500 for parts. I think I saw the pump for $1200. It wouldn't be worth it.

Trust me they are not worth rebuilding. If you are going to invest the time and money you are better off re-building a champion than a modern t30 IR pump.

 

[SBOhio]

Yours isn't even quiet compared to a quincy or Kellog American. That being said yeah the 7.5's are horrible. If you ever hear one run for any length of time you will question wether it will last more than a year. That being said those aren't even bad compared to a 2545e15. I won't even get out of my truck without earplugs when I roll up on a customer with one.

I have an older 70's Quincy 325 5hp. Bought it 20 years ago with no motor. I put a low hour 7.5 hp Baldor on it. Setting it up for my Dad in his woodworking shop. Same speed 1750 rpm. Do you see any problems doing this?

 

[unashamedlaborer]

If the motor speed is the same and you have the same size pulley it's no problem at all. All you are really looking for is to keep the pump turning at a reasonable speed. The 325 has a minimum speed and a maximum speed. As long as you stay within those two you are golden. I believe it is something like 400-900.

 

[slowzuki]

I have a little 3 hp Kellog too but the banging of the bad rod bearings is a bit loud over 80 psi.

Also have a 3 hp Brunner that is underdriven at about 1/2 the proper rpm (came that way) that is the quietest compressor I've ever heard.

Yours isn't even quiet compared to a quincy or Kellog American. That being said yeah the 7.5's are horrible. If you ever hear one run for any length of time you will question wether it will last more than a year. That being said those aren't even bad compared to a 2545e15. I won't even get out of my truck without earplugs when I roll up on a customer with one.

 

[finn]

I've been looking for a larger compressor and have found that ALL of the manufacturers offer a basic pump combined with two or three different horsepower electric motors set up with different pulley ratios, so I wouldn't consider running a basic compressor with a higher power motor at a higher driven ratio "overclocking" the pump.

That's just smart engineering.

For example, I picked up an old Champion with a 3 hp motor. That exact same pump is offered with 5 and 7.5 hp motors, which are set up with different pulleys to spin the pump faster.

The 7.5 hp delivers more than double the air my little 3 hp motor does.

Quincy, IR, and probably most of the rest do the same.

 

[unashamedlaborer]

I've been looking for a larger compressor and have found that ALL of the manufacturers offer a basic pump combined with two or three different horsepower electric motors set up with different pulley ratios, so I wouldn't consider running a basic compressor with a higher power motor at a higher driven ratio "overclocking" the pump.



That's just smart engineering.



For example, I picked up an old Champion with a 3 hp motor. That exact same pump is offered with 5 and 7.5 hp motors, which are set up with different pulleys to spin the pump faster.



The 7.5 hp delivers more than double the air my little 3 hp motor does.



Quincy, IR, and probably most of the rest do the same.

It is true that everyone applies the same principle. The difference is that for quincy and many others they turn down a true 7.5hp pump to 5hp and sell it as either. For IR currently they sell a 5hp pump and spin it faster than they should. The same pump models that have been made for many many years are cheaper and cheaper in construction and quality every year. The new 2475 pumps or 2545 pumps for that matter don't Evan have rod inserts (plain bearings) anymore. They simply have a aluminum rod on a steel crank. Ect...