Input on New Garage Plans

[crenth]

Just looking for input and suggestions on my garage plans. It's pretty well laid out like I was wanting. 7' ceiling on left side above the shop and storage room to allow for a lift area for more storage. If the plans are hard to read, it's 50x40.

 

[matt_i]

Thats pretty small (I mean the image size, eh? ) If you can load a larger picture to see some more details then I think you'll get more valuable feedback.

 

[lujon]

If you have room to drive on the back of the shop I would put a rear roll up door in as well.

Also I would add a urinal.


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[crenth]

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[Andy8430]

Nice layout and planning.
Why the cathedral ceilings? Are you gaining height for lift or just like the look?
I’d save the money and use regular trusses. I’d think air from your heater would flow better with a flat ceiling and you’d be able to insulate cheaper.


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[Andy8430]

Another thought, is 40’ deep enough for two lifts?
My garage is 40’ deep and I’m not able to fit two trucks lengthwise. One truck and a short car wouldn’t provide much room to work around.


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[crenth]

Nice layout and planning.
Why the cathedral ceilings? Are you gaining height for lift or just like the look?
I’d save the money and use regular trusses. I’d think air from your heater would flow better with a flat ceiling and you’d be able to insulate cheaper.

I did that for the lift clearance and for loft storage above the shop area and storage room.

The 2 lifts are mainly setup so the back one would be used for a place to store my mustang or locate a long term project vehicle. The one closer to the door would be used momentarily for repairs on regular vehicles. I may do some remeasuring to double check that space though. Thanks for the thoughts.

 

[mrramsey]

Nice size. Here is my .02 cents. I am not a mechanic but it seems to me like the lifts would be better side by side. Then you have ready access to both at any given time. Assuming that the Shop area and Storage are on the same level as the garage, are the stairs going to a loft area or finished office space / storage? I would consider a ducted heat system so you can direct heat into the shop and other areas more effectively. I think you will get tired of a 7' ceiling height pretty quick. Do at least 8'. I would also add a shower not much additional cost to do so.

My assumptions are that your 12' plate height is from the finished floor? If so do 6' walls at the storage and shop areas. Then add your 2x10 floor system on top. Then 8' walls around your second floor area. Standard trusses there flat ceilings. Then step down at the garage with your scissor trusses.

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[crenth]

Nice size. Here is my .02 cents. I am not a mechanic but it seems to me like the lifts would be better side by side. Then you have ready access to both at any given time. Assuming that the Shop area and Storage are on the same level as the garage, are the stairs going to a loft area or finished office space / storage? I would consider a ducted heat system so you can direct heat into the shop and other areas more effectively. I think you will get tired of a 7' ceiling height pretty quick. Do at least 8'. I would also add a shower not much additional cost to do so.

My assumptions are that your 12' plate height is from the finished floor? If so do 6' walls at the storage and shop areas. Then add your 2x10 floor system on top. Then 8' walls around your second floor area. Standard trusses there flat ceilings. Then step down at the garage with your scissor trusses.

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I like that idea and the sketch. However, I run into a couple restrictions.

1) Height restrictions in my subdivision.
2) My bank account and how much I can convince the bank to put in it.
3) I already thought about the shower, but realized it would not get used enough to justify.

I did however talk to the architect and we are changing:

1) lifts side by side
2) staircase is getting turned 90 degrees and going up to the west, using equal space from the storage room and shop area to do so in an effort to allow more space around side by side lifts
3) 12' garage doors being changed to 10' garage doors to give me more wall space

I'm also trying to decide on floor heat....

Thanks for the input!

Clayton

 

[matt_i]

I'm also trying to decide on floor heat....

If you can take the time to update your profile and put in your location, you will get better responses about the radiant in-floor heat. My quick answer is below the mason-dixon line probably not worth it. Above the mason-dixon line, could be worth it but depends on your amount of useage. Its heavy investment up front and pays the dividends back incrementally as its used. Also needs attention to detail in insulating and sealing the building above it to retain the heat.

 

[CraigStu]

Floor heat sure feels great but how much time will you be in the garage? I ask because it's not something you turn on, wait 5 minutes, and it's good to go. It's best if you leave it on all the time but that may not be worth the expense.

 

[bczygan]

How is it placed on the lot?

 

[crenth]

I would leave the floor heat on all the time in the winter. I'll most likely be out there daily working on vehicles or letting my kids play.

The garage doors face south and the garage site in the NE corner on the lot.

 

[Partsguy57]

I like that idea and the sketch. However, I run into a couple restrictions.

1) Height restrictions in my subdivision.
2) My bank account and how much I can convince the bank to put in it.
3) I already thought about the shower, but realized it would not get used enough to justify.

I did however talk to the architect and we are changing:

1) lifts side by side
2) staircase is getting turned 90 degrees and going up to the west, using equal space from the storage room and shop area to do so in an effort to allow more space around side by side lifts
3) 12' garage doors being changed to 10' garage doors to give me more wall space

I'm also trying to decide on floor heat....

Thanks for the input!

Clayton

Hate my 10 foot door on garage, stay with 12 foot as that is what I used on my shop. Much! Better..

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[lakeroadster]

Thats pretty small (I mean the image size, eh? ) If you can load a larger picture to see some more details then I think you'll get more valuable feedback.

I like your original plan better than the lifts side by side.

 

[850xpeps]

I would suggest going higher by a foot and maintaining standard roof truss. Will be cheaper and be able to be insulated better saving money on heat on the long run. If you need storage on the one spot just build it a bit higher like mentioned. It’s not going to cost much more to add another couple feet on the one part.

 

[raffaelli]

I would move the stairs to the storage room, which frees up a bunch of space in the garage; tuck the water heater and compressor under the stair.

 

[crenth]

Hate my 10 foot door on garage, stay with 12 foot as that is what I used on my shop. Much! Better..

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What size are those 3 doors? The 2 on the left look really tall.

 

[Partsguy57]

What size are those 3 doors? The 2 on the left look really tall.

The left doors are 13 tall with a 14 foot inside ceiling height. They are 12 foot wide . 10 foot wide doors are not ideal for pickups and bigger stuff if you deal with that.. good luck on your project. Cheers

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[MT Black Sheep]

.... I would recommend a single 18'-20' door vs two smaller doors. Partitions just drive me nuts in a working shop/garage. Also, by using TGI Joists you can go 24" between them.
Looks good....garages are usually very specific to the user, so make sure you are allowing space for doing the things you do. Also, give thought to your outlets/ lighting. A lot of people don't give them the thought they deserve beforehand. Nice work!

 

[Handyfarmer]

put the bath room in a corner of the building, if you ever want more shop space, the bath room would be in the way, if in an out side corner, it would not be in the center of the "room".

unless you plan on using the stairs on a daily basis, I would hing them and counter weight them and raise them up out of the way when not needed,

 

[crenth]

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