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installing shower in remote cabin w/o a water supply

floridagramps

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I am building a cabin in a remote area of CA this winter that does not have plumbed water and a well is impractical. Looking for suggestions on how to build a system using a water tank that gets filled manually (location is accessible by 4x4). System to incorporate pressure tank(s), pumps , water heater,holding tank etc similar to what is done in RV or large boat
 
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ovilla

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All you need is a propane bottle and a water source to use one of these. In your case I'd get a 12V marine pump (like a BIG bilge pump) to pump water into this unit below.

Eccotemp L5 Portable Tankless Water Heater and Outdoor Shower
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Lippyp

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Why go with pumps etc, gravity has been around for years and is free! Holding tank up high, filled with a gas powered pump on your tanker trailer. Could be on the roof or could be a standalone water tower. You could also look at a solar heating panel for the summer or even just a matt black painted tank on the roof. We stayed at a hotel in Turkey some years ago and all the hot water was supplied from a tank above each room, only downside was no hot water in the morning so an auxiliary way of heating it is advisable but you may as well use the free heat of the sun.
 

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We have a 55 gallon drum and a 12 volt on demand water pump and a water heater like oville posted. It works great for what it is at out hunting cabin. Wa also have a little sink and a hose bib all built into the plumbing cluster. It's slanted down hill so when we leave we can disconnect everything and the water will drain. We also cap the ends to keep bugs out and hopefully to protect against freezing problems

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ckucia

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You're basically looking at a system very much like what recreational vehicles use.

So, from that standpoint, most of the details have been worked out for years.

The downside is, like marine parts, RV parts tend to carry a premium for what they are.

I have, however, found that many of the same parts sold for mobile home use are nearly identical and often cheaper than the RV specific alternatives.

We have a small travel trailer on a remote piece of land in rural WV. I bought a 40 gallon water tank (about $100, on ebay) and put it on my little trailer. The camper has a 30 gallon internal tank. I use a cheap Harbor Freight 12v pump to transfer the water between the two.

The camper has a small hot water heater. About six gallons, IIRC. The one we have runs on either 110VAC or propane. Heats up pretty quick. Tankless, on demand water heaters were pretty new and pricey when I built our camper, but they may be a better option now.

RV shower heads almost always have a shutoff valve. You really have to take "Navy showers" where you wet up, soap up, then rinse off rather than running the water continuously. If you don't, you'll run through all your water in a very short time.

If you want to store/move a lot of water inexpensively, look into IBC tote tanks. They're around 250-300 gallons and can usually be picked up used for $100-150. They're caged and used for bulk storage of industrial liquids, but those liquids include food processing. If you get one used for something like fruit syrups, then it can be used for potable water. They have the footprint of a pallet and are about chest/shoulder high.
 
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offroadsteve

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I'd agree with the gravity tank suggested above. You only need a few feet of elevation to get enough pressure to take a shower / run a sink, etc. where I used to work at Philmont, all the backcountry camps had solar well pumps and a 500-1000 gallon holding tanks up a nearby hill from the staff cabin. A length of poly pipe was run from the tank to the cabin. Easy and effective. Since you wouldn't have a well, i'd recommend a rain catching system as well as some way to refill manually.

A solar collector on the roof would be the most efficent way to get hot water as the others said, since i'm assuming there is no power along with no water. I would think a normal propane powered hot-water heater would work just fine though if solar is impractical.
 

p_mori7

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+1 on the gravity fed system.

At our hunting/fishing camp, we installed a recycled food service tote on the roof. We fill this with lake water using a old electric well piston pump (the lake is 100' away and 30' lower).

This reservoir is then plumbed to the toilet, sink & shower in the camp.

We have a 110v small hot water heater in the attic. Hot water is only for the shower.

There is plenty of pressure for camp use.

We use a generator for our occasional eletrical needs.

 

TN_GARAGE

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You can buy pressure water tanks, water pumps, water heaters, etc.
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I've also heard of folks making their own pressure tanks from salvaged parts (kegs, barrels, water heaters, etc.) and tire pumps.
 

Mike in Ohio

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I saw a setup one time for heating pool water that basically small diameter black plastic pipe run back and forth across the roof. The sun heated the water in the pipes. Need a fairly strong roof though.
 

cburnscrx

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I saw a setup one time for heating pool water that basically small diameter black plastic pipe run back and forth across the roof. The sun heated the water in the pipes. Need a fairly strong roof though.

Did you drive by our house? haha

Actually my father did that years ago, and it worked really well. Not sure why he eventually took it down, but he did.
 
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