Insulated screwdrivers

[Jrboulder]

I figure it's just overall safer to use insulated screwdrivers when doing minor residential electrical work and I like having a low wear set that won't be as likely to strip out the chese grade fasteners used in electrical applications. Plus it gives me a second "household" set in my bag in case I need 2 of one size.

So is there a downside to having 6 red Wera screwdrivers? Everyone who sees them and knows what they are gives me **** about it.

 

[jakemac]

I don't see the problem.
Easily spotted before an idiot tries to use them to open paint cans.
If the guys know what they are, and still give you grief, then they deserve to get sparked when you refuse to lend them out for box work.

 

[gdocktor3]

I don't see the problem.
Easily spotted before an idiot tries to use them to open paint cans.
If the guys know what they are, and still give you grief, then they deserve to get sparked when you refuse to lend them out for box work.

I agree with this.

 

[SRSemenza]

What's wrong with red / yellow Wera screwdrivers? Is it the color or the insulated fact they think is funny? Not to mention Wera isn't the only company that makes insulated in those bright colors.

I have some of those Wera VDE. The tips fit fasteners very well. Solid secure contact.

Seth

 

[rlitman]

No downside I can think of. Enjoy using them.

 

[Finky198]

I have red and yellow insulated wiha's no shame.
Their cool and have a purpose and it's keeping me safer then I already am....

I was on a ladder a few days ago, I had to move a 15amp box that was live 18" a std 2 outlet in metal box screwed to a stud. I took the screws out of the outlet and as I went to remove it for the box it sparked. someone had backed out all the screws to install it, but left two completely out when they touch the metal case Bang. Knowing it was live I had gloves on. I asssumed it was installed properly but I guess not.. Thank goodness for insulated tools and safety glasses.

It could have easily knocked me off the ladder without that gear. I don't condone working on live stuff and try to avoid it, but sometimes the option is just not there... that's when I really appreciate having them...

 

[gdocktor3]

Are there even other colored insulated tools? I thought the reddish/orange was standard. Kind of like hi viz safety vests, caution tape, etc. Specific colors for specific reasons.

 

[rlitman]

Are there even other colored insulated tools? I thought the reddish/orange was standard. Kind of like hi viz safety vests, caution tape, etc. Specific colors for specific reasons.

Any reason other than brand styling? I don't think so.

 

[Finky198]

It might be some knipex stuff I've seen in the past was red dipped and was very clearly labeled 1000v. But I think your correct that its kind of and industry thing maybe a standard many not. But it's definitely evident. Take for instance ESD drivers are usually yellow idk why, but I'm sure theirs a reason behind it.

 

[FlushingDIYer]

So is there a downside to having 6 red Wera screwdrivers? Everyone who sees them and knows what they are gives me **** about it.

How does the saying go, "Haters gon' hate?"

I'd get them. But I like Wera tools.

Another cheaper option would be to just wrap shrink tubing around some Kleins (or Stanleys!). Sure it won't be VDE, but for 99.99% of household use it'll be fine.

 

[dutchgray]

You won't see an electrician use anything but proper insulated screwdrivers here, if you have them, use them, there is no point in taking any extra risk around electricity.

 

[openwheelracing88]

I have a 6 piece set of Wiha. Love them. However, I only use two of the six for electrical work. If I could start over, I would buy just P2, 4mm and whatever they call it slotted with square center, all in slim profile instead.

I am just a typical home owner. Not a professional. I think every household should have some insulated screwdrivers.

 

[openwheelracing88]

Xeno drive is the name.

 

[rlitman]

Xeno drive is the name.

I have the Milwaukee ACX version.

 

[rlitman]

Any reason other than brand styling? I don't think so.

This OLD VDE Wera of mine is a dark green.

 

[derosa]

I have the wera and like them, usually the kind of idiot that would give me **** about the safety factor or its associated colour is not the guy I want helping nor that I listen to.

 

[TheGrooveking]

Please note - wrapping screwdrivers in electrical tale DOES NOT INSULTATE THE USER!!! People get killed with this type of advise. Not all plastic handles are not dielectric!

TheGrooveking

 

[Gmonkee]

I did up a couple with clear plastic hose over the shaft in a pinch.

No time to shop when it took less than ten minutes to whip them up and do five contacts in a live crowded box.
All 110 VAC so the high voltage risk was gone but had to avoid shorting out circuits.

I would not have worked a live 440 box with makeshift tools. Not live, no goofy tools and the insulated gloves just to be paranoid.

Gotta respect the power grid. It doesn't forgive stupid.

 

[jayrush13]

Just so everyone is aware insulated screwdrivers are just part of the requirements of doing hot work. If you want to do it properly. It involves hot gloves, rated clothing, standing mats, face shields, etc. Unless you are working in a health care facility or some other super sensitive facility that you can't shut down there is no reason to do things hot. Get a circuit tracer and head lamp and shut it off.

 

[rlitman]

...Unless you are working in a health care facility or some other super sensitive facility that you can't shut down there is no reason to do things hot. Get a circuit tracer and head lamp and shut it off.

Agreed. However, just because you're not working on a live circuit, does not mean that an insulated screwdriver no longer makes you safer.

No electrician would shut off a main breaker to make a neutral or ground connection in a panel (or even to connect a wire to a breaker that is off). You are not working on anything hot. But an insulated screwdriver not only prevents accidental contact with something live, it also prevents the screwdriver itself from shorting anything, because not enough metal is exposed to be dangerous if dropped (which is why bitholding insulating screwdrivers are anathema to me).

I also occasionally work around batteries and capacitors. They don't just shut off.

 

[Cope]

Klein also offers insulated drivers. http://www.kleintools.com/search/insulated screwdriver

 

[SnapOnAddiction]

Nothing wrong with Wera I just inherited some old orange Kraft forms co-branded "it has both brands" paladin tools from my father.

He has no idea how he got them they are old but he was a linesman and an industrial maintenance man.

Anyways I love them, but for a cheap set I'd recommend the Milwaukee set from HD they are great I have the non coated set but have seen and felt the others they have the same grip.

Falcon and Klein are also good or snap on. GL

 

[DC73]

I picked up a Milwaukee set awhile back at Home Depot. Very light weight. Feel good in my hands. Great reviews. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-Insulated-Screwdriver-Set-3-Piece-48-22-2202/204069720

Pleased with the purchase.

DC