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Hannahranga

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Re insulated tools you should own, mostly just the relevant screwdriver's and pliers. Everything is overkill given you shouldn't be work live.

on a different note I'd consider a insulated/non conductive ratchet or spanner to suit your car's battery terminals more relevant.
 
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Here’s a spinoff question I got

which TYPES of tools should a handyman or residential electrician have in insulated?

i seen videos of electricians reviewing tools and I got the impression they don’t actually want insulation on all there tools like the knipex pliers wrench but due to regulations like OSHA and the European one is worse they have to get it on tools even when it’s stupid

so if you didn’t have any regulations and were doing 220 Volts and less around residential which types of tools would you actually want and need insulated?

and I assume it’s only in case someone accidentally turns the breaker back on since you triple checked it was off

damn maybe I need a lockout lock for when I flip off a breaker so a random neighbor doesn’t mess with it not that they would but it only takes a second and breaker boxes usually outside facing the street
You will know when you need them.
Cross that bridge when/if you get there or anticipate it.
Judging by your questions, I would recommend you not working with electricity at all and get some help or hands on training from someone experienced.
Its common sense to de-energize before working, but depending on the job, location and impact, its not always an available option.
 

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For homeowner/DIY work, I'd honestly not recommend insulated tools as it may create a false sense of security. Get a good meter and testers instead, find the breaker and cut the power.

The only exception is insulated screwdrivers for replacing breakers. Not required, but safer.
 

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Hmmm I have read various comments on this thread being a local and specialist on 2000 amps main switchboards 415 / 240 , My current choice would be knipex if buying new , the channellock 1000 volt rated stuff that’s finished in Melbourne with the local grips different to the USA vde grip are good value for money 3248 is the part number , marvel do a few versions which are fair value tradezone is a reasonable supplier , and the new Klein Australian grip plier is a nice item . Avoid the Chinese crescent pliers they are rubbish compared to the American and Australian made crescent tools . It’s subjective and too your budget .
 

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I can’t speak for other countries, but in the U.K. working on live apparatus is pretty much out of the question for a regular electrician.

Some specialists get involved with it, and also the power distribution sector, but not regular electricians.

The reasons that insulated tools are recommended (which they are) are twofold.

Firstly, you have additional protection should a circuit you think is isolated is actually live. This is a rare occurrence, but it has happened.

The main reason is that with the U.K. being 240 volt, there is a lot more protection than in countries with lower voltages. If you were working on an incorrectly isolated circuit, and if you were say touching a neutral terminal with an uninsulated screwdriver, but brushed against an earthed component, you would trip the Earth Leakage Breaker, together with any Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter.

As a non pro there is no way I would even think of working on a live circuit. The main switch would be off, the breaker for that circuit would be pulled, and if there is anybody else in the building probably removed as well.

And I’ll still use a voltage detector before working on any cable or fitting. One of these should be your first purchase!
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For what it’s worth, my favourite insulated screwdrivers are these Wiha. The insulation is flush with the tip, so you don’t keep catching it when working on terminals. No penalty for using these.
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I'd never trust a wiggy to begin work on a circuit. It's a meter only for me.
 

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Hmmm I have read various comments on this thread being a local and specialist on 2000 amps main switchboards 415 / 240 , My current choice would be knipex if buying new , the channellock 1000 volt rated stuff that’s finished in Melbourne with the local grips different to the USA vde grip are good value for money 3248 is the part number , marvel do a few versions which are fair value tradezone is a reasonable supplier , and the new Klein Australian grip plier is a nice item . Avoid the Chinese crescent pliers they are rubbish compared to the American and Australian made crescent tools . It’s subjective and too your budget .
415/240 is uncommon in the US, but if you find it, it's most likely in a data center.

I got into an argument with an engineer (not an electrical engineer) about it and why there was L-N-G with 240V feeding a bunch of equipment.
 
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I'd never trust a wiggy to begin work on a circuit. It's a meter only for me.

I have a few wiggys I keep around because I'm too cheap to keep a separate LoZ meter, but I agree, they're pretty obsolete nowadays.

I've never heard a NCVT called a wiggy. We call them crickets around here.
This is what I picture when someone says Wiggy:
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I've never heard a NCVT called a wiggy. We call them crickets around here.
This is what I picture when someone says Wiggy:
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Yes, that's a Wiggy. Solenoid Wiggy testers are good up to Cat II, but are questionably safe on Cat III. They're LoZ, which is useful (in some odd cases), and are are pretty reliable, but not something I'd recommend anyone go out and buy.

NCVT is a completely different animal. Being "non contact" in nature, they are badly prone to both false positive and false negative readings (less so if you confirm against a known source before and after testing). Keep these around, but they're worthless for phantom voltages (where I'd want a LoZ meter or a Wiggy).
 

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Yes, that's a Wiggy. Solenoid Wiggy testers are good up to Cat II, but are questionably safe on Cat III. They're LoZ, which is useful (in some odd cases), and are are pretty reliable, but not something I'd recommend anyone go out and buy.

NCVT is a completely different animal. Being "non contact" in nature, they are badly prone to both false positive and false negative readings (less so if you confirm against a known source before and after testing). Keep these around, but they're worthless for phantom voltages (where I'd want a LoZ meter or a Wiggy).
I wish more multimeter leads came with spring loaded retractable tips like my Wiggy has.
 

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I had a wiggy given to me from the square D company I liked it it was stolen after 18 months I use test lamps , multi meter , and my fluke volt stick , but I never trust them! I always check on a known live source then recheck , the lamps are good for tripping out the RCD device which is mandatory on each circuit . All new buildings are 415 volt / 240 volt 4 wire since 81 , our standards and rules are British based . There is no different voltage differences , IE 277/ 480 or 120 /208 . Ps always known as a wiggy here
 

oldpliers1

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I'd never trust a wiggy to begin work on a circuit. It's a meter only for me.
It has only been in the last 12 years that it became illegal to work on alive here , you can test it alive , but it was the normal to work on alive switchboards , we are talking 2000 - 4000 amp twin substation supply on a city high rise because the bank or Amex or hotel did not want a outage and it really is a lack of respect for life of us sparkies , a good change
 
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