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kkosh

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I am building a 40 x 30 garage and we will have about 8 feet of block wall that will be filled and the garage built on top of it. Should i insulate the inside of the block wall before they fill it or just leave as is? Thanks!
 
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are you going to heat the garage? are you installing radiant heat in the slab? installing polystyrene on the outside of the walls is better than nothing, spray foam, although more money, would be best if you plan on insulating the whole garage and heating it.

i installed it on the 3 courses of block on the outside of my garage, then screwing concrete board on to protect it, but i have radiant heat in my garage
 
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kkosh

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i am going to heat the garage using a mini split system. I cant install it on the outside do to I am using the footings as a brick ledge and there isn't enough room.
 

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Have you considered having the wall built using ICFs ( insulated concrete forms)?

It would come out already insulated.
 
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kkosh

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They already started. Using block wall, then they are putting re rod in inside the blocks and filling with cement.
 

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You need to add your location so that people can consider your climate in their responses.

Assuming that you are in a cold climate, the most important (highest heat loss ) area to insulate are the sides of the foundation Wallls - it prevents cold from getting under your floors, and since it is in direct contact with the frozen earth, the ability to transfer heat is very high.
 

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So this block will be mostly buried ? The block foundation is 8 feet deep? Back filled on both sides to the same depth?
 
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I live in Michigan so it can def get cold. The 3/4 of the block foundation will be exposed. It is build on a slope so the right side will be completely exposed and the left side buried. Most of the back will be exposed. Sounds like it is worth doing? Maybe also do the paneling on the top before they pour the concrete floor?
 

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I live in Michigan so it can def get cold. The 3/4 of the block foundation will be exposed. It is build on a slope so the right side will be completely exposed and the left side buried. Most of the back will be exposed. Sounds like it is worth doing? Maybe also do the paneling on the top before they pour the concrete floor?

I am not sure why you cannot insulate on the the outside (I would definitely insulate the inside using either one of the foam basement wall systems or by building a framed wall inside the block).

Your brick ledge should be about at the final grade on the outside (normally face brick is not buried in the ground) - so below the brick ledge and into the ground should be able to be insulated with foam board - this is the highest heat loss area.

Make sure that your contractor is properly sealing, draining, grading the wall where the block is acting as the retaining wall so it stays nice and dry.
 

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People have the same problem with poured concrete walls.

I chose to add 2x4 framing against the walls, then filled the cavities with insulation. Chances are you're going to want to add shelving, etc along those walls. The 2x4 framing not only allows you to insulate, it gives a great surface to attach to as drilling and anchoring in block is a PITA and destructive.

Also, you'll have a ledge at the top of your 2x4 wall which will now do double duty as a perimeter shelf.
 

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you should insulate the block walls down to the footing, this will keep the fill under your garage from freezing.

once it's filled, insulate on top of the fill before you pour
 
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kkosh

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Sounds good. I will insulate the walls and then the top. 2" insulation boards I believe?
 
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