Insulating enclosed pole barn

[D. Patina]

I'm considering a 30 X 36 X 10 enclosed, steel truss pole barn for my garage and workshop. Doors would be 16 X 7 and 10 X 7 roll up with a 36' man door. I like the space and the bang for the buck, but with construction style, seems like I will be doing upgrades for years to come.

My concern is insulation and a sealed structure to keep the critters out. They frame the walls with 2x6 lumber for the studs and 1x4 furring strips as the backing. Painted metal is then screwed on the furring strips. The walls are anchored to the concrete with J- bolts. Shething and wrapping the walls and roof prior to the roof and siding drive the cost up $3k

Builder tells me that it's not required and I could further frame and insulate from the inside.

Any thoughts or experience with this concept?

 

[matt_i]

My concern would be termites...but if there is clearance to the slab on the outside at least you could see them coming. Its when they start up a crack to the inside where you cannot see...

What is the spacing on the studs...16" to 24" on-center, or something else? Fiberglass insulation is available in rolls to fit both widths.

 

[bullnerd]

A pole building with studs?

You mean they frame in between the poles with 2x6 studs to add interior?

That sounds like a lot of wasted money on studs? Defeats the purpose of the poles.

Check out my 30x40 in my sig to see how I did it. I copied Morton buildings.

 

[D. Patina]

To enclose the pole barn, they frame the walls with 2x6 lumber for the studs and 1x4 furring strips as the backing. Painted metal is then screwed on the furring strips. The walls are anchored to the concrete with J- bolts.

I saw your thread and is what I had in mind. The roof will have steel trusses so that will be another challenge to insulate.

At this point I'm gathering estimates and evaluating the various construction methods.

 

[MushCreek]

Depending on what you drive, 7' high doors aren't high enough. My bone-stock 3/4 ton van won't fit under a 7' door; neither would some pick-ups. Not that I would garage my van, but it would be nice to get it inside to work on it.

In FL, I would use pressure treated lumber, if possible.

 

[bandaidmd]

What your describing is not a "pole barn" . A pole barn is 6x6 (usually) poles sunk into the ground that go all the way to the rim joist that the trusses sit on, there are no wall studs. If there pouring a slab and then building up from there its a conventional slab on grade building reguardless of what material is used for the trusses or sheathing. If thats what there doing and code allows 24" OC for the walls insulating will be simple with batts from the home center. If your not installing a ceiling use spray foam directly to the underside of the metal roof.

 

[bandaidmd]

depending on what you drive, 7' high doors aren't high enough. My bone-stock 3/4 ton van won't fit under a 7' door; neither would some pick-ups. Not that i would garage my van, but it would be nice to get it inside to work on it.

In fl, i would use pressure treated lumber, if possible.

^^^^^ditto^^^^^

 

[bullnerd]

Yeah, Im with Bandaid, sounds odd.

 

[Buck41]

I just finished a 64x40 pole barn and insulated it with 5 1/2 inch polystyrene 4x8 panels. Each panel has OSB strip embedded every 24" full length. I did not have to do any wall framing. I just screwed the 4x8 panels up to the horizontal girts. Saved time and don't have to worry about condensation because of the airspace between the girt and insulation panel. ��

 

[brownie088]

Buck 41. Just wondering where you got 5 1/2 panels with osb imbedded in them?

 

[Voi]

Buck 41. Just wondering where you got 5 1/2 panels with osb imbedded in them?

I have the same question. In another thread he calls them SIPs but I don't think of the typical SIP as having a full length OSB strip embedded every 24".

Always interested in hearing what else is out there.

 

[Buck41]

Sorry guys I have been out for awhile. I got the panels from Big Sky insulation so in Belgrade Montana. The panels are 4x8 with OSB 24 oc. I just used long screws to install them to the horizontal girts.

 

[Big Daddy Chop Shop]

Check this out www.kysteel.com
This is what I have, all steel. Insulated.

 

[brownie088]

Are they SIPS or something different. And how much?

 

[cajunfirehawk]

OP: I live close to you in MS and I was going with pole barn but for a few reasons I decided to go with full steel bolt together metal building from Muller, I think I will spray foam mine when I can save up for insulation. Glad I went steel too. Termites was one of my concerns.

 

[csp]

Is an enclosed pole barn a pole barn inside another building?