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Catadj78

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After reading the above thread and not wanting to hijack that above thread I too have some questions. I researched here and the net but no luck for my particular situation.

My shop is roughly 100' from the house. (In build mode now)

we have our house phone service through Verizon as well as our cells.
no landline

I have been with Verizon for many many many years. I got on the unlimited data plan and I am still on it so I use my cell as a hotspot which works great while the wife and I are both in the house

I believe I can add phone line to the verizon box and run it to the shop to have house phone in the shop and the forward phone calls to my cell to the house phone.

but how would I extend the hotspot that far to have internet in both the house and the shop at the same time?

Anyone else using cell as hotspot with this issue?
 
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if it is in Build mode now, you should really consider running a cat 5E cat 6 cables to the shop...
 

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Just dig your electrical trench plenty deep (like 36" or more, depending on your AHJ requirements), then backfill 12" and put in another 1" conduit for low voltage with RG6 and qty 3 CAT5e/6 that will handle all your CATV/internet/security/phone.

You'll have unlimited possibilities by using wired at low cost and fastest speed.

Techie guru's will give you specifics that are Verizon specific right now, but you may switch providers later (ie AT&T U-Verse, DISH, etc) so you'll need to be flexible long-term. Best to spend a little now and get backbone in place.

Oh almost forgot, include a pull string in the low voltage conduit in case you need add yet another wire later. ;)
 

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There is a router http://www.zoomtel.com/products/4504.html which will "tether" to your cell phone allowing it to serve as the Internet source for a network. Seems to cover most phones, but you'll need to look at their compatibility information to be sure. I've never used one, but theoretically this would solve your problem and possibly even allow you to access the Internet wirelessly from your new building if you didn't want to run Cat5 to it.
 
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Just dig your electrical trench plenty deep (like 36" or more, depending on your AHJ requirements), then backfill 12" and put in another 1" conduit for low voltage with RG6 and qty 3 CAT5e/6 that will handle all your CATV/internet/security/phone.

You'll have unlimited possibilities by using wired at low cost and fastest speed.

Techie guru's will give you specifics that are Verizon specific right now, but you may switch providers later (ie AT&T U-Verse, DISH, etc) so you'll need to be flexible long-term. Best to spend a little now and get backbone in place.

Oh almost forgot, include a pull string in the low voltage conduit in case you need add yet another wire later. ;)

there was no plans for electrical trench. Power company already put pole in and has wire rolled up ready to connect to the building. Ill now get 2 power bills though
 
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Catadj78

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There is a router http://www.zoomtel.com/products/4504.html which will "tether" to your cell phone allowing it to serve as the Internet source for a network. Seems to cover most phones, but you'll need to look at their compatibility information to be sure. I've never used one, but theoretically this would solve your problem and possibly even allow you to access the Internet wirelessly from your new building if you didn't want to run Cat5 to it.

this appears to be exactly what I will need. Had no idea something like this existed :bowdown:

im not against running cat 5 to the shop and may do it anyways now as well as a phone wire. And like cng said a pull wire for future needs.
 
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Catadj78

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Just dig your electrical trench plenty deep (like 36" or more, depending on your AHJ requirements), then backfill 12" and put in another 1" conduit for low voltage with RG6 and qty 3 CAT5e/6 that will handle all your CATV/internet/security/phone.

You'll have unlimited possibilities by using wired at low cost and fastest speed.

Techie guru's will give you specifics that are Verizon specific right now, but you may switch providers later (ie AT&T U-Verse, DISH, etc) so you'll need to be flexible long-term. Best to spend a little now and get backbone in place.

Oh almost forgot, include a pull string in the low voltage conduit in case you need add yet another wire later. ;)


Also, if I am not running actual power through a trench and just low voltage stuff how deep and what kind of conduit should I be using?

After power company guy came out and we decided to have seperate meter I never tbought anymore about running wire to the shop
 

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^ ^ ^ A cheap and quick way to get low voltage conduit to your shop (ie since no electrical service trench) would be vibratory plow like the sprinkler installation guys use. Depending on your soil, you could get the conduit down 12" to 18" deep. A subcontractor for your cable company could do it, or a sprinkler installation company. Just use continuous roll of 1" poly pipe as your conduit. Use shop vac & "mouse" method to get your first pull string down the 100 ft conduit.
 

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this appears to be exactly what I will need. Had no idea something like this existed :bowdown: ....

By most carrier use policies the capability this router purports to provide should not exist. This means that if it works that great, but it is not out of the realm of possibility for Verizon to update your phone so it may not work in the future. If it doesn't work, Verizon will do nothing to help you make it work. There are some other devices (CradlePoint CTR35 & ASUS WL-330gE), which people have been able to make do what you are trying to do, but these devices do not purport to support this use so you'll get no help or support from either Verizon or these companies on what you're trying to setup. Basically any router capable of wifi repeating "should work".

Remember, I have not personally used the router I linked to in my original response.
 
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