krusty the clown
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too bad that sentiment doesn't apply to all of thier product line.
Introducing the newest SO hammer!
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too bad that sentiment doesn't apply to all of thier product line.
mrshaun
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well I am glad the customers that want their cars fixed with USA parts are not griping ...they would be out of luck
orange02ss
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Wright doesnt as far as I know, everything that they have in their catalog made by someone else is labeled as so.
Mickey O
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Boy, they couldn't stress Made In USA anymore in that video, I'd like to hear his opinion on the new hammer.
DON'T BUY CHINESE **** FROM SNAP ON.
Rant follows..
Well for me it's first and foremost about 1st world labor, not so much USA, even though I do prefer to see more stuff made here, and made well. I have Fender Guitars, Martin Guitars, etc.. that MUST be US made 100% (wood being from Brazil, etc..) for me to pay their high prices.. But even Fender and Martin both have USA made guitars for under $1K street price.
With that said, on the topic of cars. When I found out that my $88K BMW X5 had Mexico made parts in it (mind you, they were a small handful of cosmetic parts), I threw a fit and contacted BMW AG, as well as BMW USA (And the North Carolina plant) and let them know what I thought of them outsourcing US and German labor to Mexico thru the back door like this! I got letters of apology from the Germans stating that the "give discretion" to the NC plant to source certain parts from outside of Germany and the US, when it makes sense but that the vast majority of the car is German parts. So I then asked them define what "makes sense" is, and have not gotten a response yet!
Frankly, I didn't like the way BMW and others went around their unions and built plants in the South were they are well known for union busting, but at least they do pay a reasonable wage and provide good benefits and work schedules (as with most EU companies). One has to draw a line at some point however.
We need to hold companies accountable that try to sell premium products from premium labor markets. When I go to Walmart to buy an item, I expect **** made by slave labor.. when I go to Cartier I expect French union labor, and when I go to Snap On.. I expect US union labor!
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Sloper0204
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I'm good for a couple
gc427
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If Snap-On wants to make tools in CHINA they need to badge them as "Strap-On!"
Don't cross the line Snap-On! You will lose a lot of business in the long run.
Leave the CHINA made tools to HF and Craftsman.
Oh and Snap-On is not listening or this kind of garbage would never be pulled!
The only thing they are listening to is some group of bean counters!
A_Pmech said:
I'm good for a couple
Anybody else?
If I get enough interest I'll make up a sample.
The hammers would be steel with knurled steel or aluminum handles and interchangeable faces. Face options could be:
Urethane
Nylon
Babbit
Copper
Brass
Steel
Other?
I'm listening.
I"m in, propose a budget for one with USPS delivery... I need a new 16oz.
Expensive.
I'm not going to put my name on some plastic-handled girly playtoy like this:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...&group_ID=1043&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
I'm talking about a man's hammer, made from the same materials that go into an airliner.
It will elicit a "holy ****" from co-workers when you pull it out.
TireTracks
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Expensive.
I'm not going to put my name on some plastic-handled girly playtoy like this:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...&group_ID=1043&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
I'm talking about a man's hammer, made from the same materials that go into an airliner.
It will elicit a "holy ****" from co-workers when you pull it out.
I could never afford a tool were the price states "if you have to ask you can't afford it"
But if you have any pictures of your hammers i wouldent mind seeing them.
sstruckguy
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I watched the video 3 times and listened "closely" twice:
.."our finished product, built from global suppliers"..doesn't leave much room for assumption
KNS Autosport
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Im an Estwing fan for hammers
I spend the extra money for Snap On 'USA" tools, if they are going to outsource more and more to china, then I for one will just as soon spend a lot less at HF for china tools. I can't beleive that a company will ruin their brand loyalty like this.
arkangel06
Banned
Any tool sold off a snap on truck made in chain will never get the chance to rest in my box.
They say all good things come to an end and some day even the biggest will fall.....
They say all good things come to an end and some day even the biggest will fall.....
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Expensive.
I'm not going to put my name on some plastic-handled girly playtoy like this:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...&group_ID=1043&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
I'm talking about a man's hammer, made from the same materials that go into an airliner.
It will elicit a "holy ****" from co-workers when you pull it out.
I'm in for as much as a Buck Twenty Five if it's good... Post up some pics or PM me info.
It is not exec driven but share holder driven.
Merkava_4
Banned
Let me tell all you guys this, and listen carefully:
If the Chinese infection ever spreads to Snap-on hard line tools such as they're non-ratcheting wrenches, their square drive tools, their pliers, or their screwdrivers, (not talking about Blue-Point) we might as well take the American flag down at the nation's capital and hang a Chinese flag in its place. Yes I'm being serious.
If the Chinese infection ever spreads to Snap-on hard line tools such as they're non-ratcheting wrenches, their square drive tools, their pliers, or their screwdrivers, (not talking about Blue-Point) we might as well take the American flag down at the nation's capital and hang a Chinese flag in its place. Yes I'm being serious.
Merkava_4
Banned
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...7&group_ID=521&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
If Snap-on ever makes this set of wrenches in China, that's it, take the American flag down and hang a Chinese flag in its place.
If Snap-on ever makes this set of wrenches in China, that's it, take the American flag down and hang a Chinese flag in its place.
econoaddict
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Kinda figured it was just a matter of time before the China seeped into the trucks.
Qoute from Reuters:
"On March 5, 2008, Snap-on acquired a 60% interest in Zhejiang Wanda Tools Co., Ltd. (Wanda Snap-on), a tool manufacturer in China."
Qoute from Reuters:
"On March 5, 2008, Snap-on acquired a 60% interest in Zhejiang Wanda Tools Co., Ltd. (Wanda Snap-on), a tool manufacturer in China."
Makes it sort of sound like you and me... but if you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.. Shareholders are 1 step ahead of workers/employees on the food chain. No.. wana see the money decision tree?.. just look no further than at the CEO's, CFO's and the top fund managers on wall street.
gc427
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Merkava_4
Banned
Snap-on figures we'll whine around for awhile but eventually give in and buy their Chinese made hammer.
Exactly! I give Cornwell a hard time. I say hmm. Cornwell torx bit sockets 72 bucks, made in China or Taiwan, they don't say. I say people should just go buy Gearwrench torx sockets at Advanced Auto for 19.98 on sale; since they are an apples to apples comparison. When Cornwell makes some real USA hardline bit sockets I'll upgrade, until then no thanks.
I just ordered three sets of Gearwrench ratcheting wrench sets. The long gear box set, the stubby flex head set, and the double box regular set. I passed on the Cornwell gear wrenches, they didn't have a good selection, missed sizes, and hey, they are just off brand ratcheting wrenches with a Cornwell logo, so why bother?
Give the tool companies **** back to them, if everyone wants to be like Gearwrench, then just buy GW, until the damn companies make what we want.
I buy USA hardline tools from the big 4, if they don't offer a USA high quality tool I am looking for, I would rather just buy a known import brand to tide me over, instead of endorsing the high priced imports on the tool trucks.
In my opinion, companies don't need to offer stuff like the Matco silvereagle, SO Blue point, and Cornwell re-labeled sell outs................the tools may be aok, but when I purchase from a truck tool brand, I EXPECT TO UPGRADE, AND PAY A HANDSOME PRICE FOR A SUPERB, ULTIMATE, HIGH END TOOL, not another watered down replica of a common brand.
If my "logic" does not make sense, let me know. I will keep buying cornwell tools until I run out of USA hardline to buy, the rest can be kept.
Merkava_4
Banned
That's exactly right. I can't figure out why these truck brand companies are being so price conscience all of a sudden anyway; their customers have always traditionally been the "money is no object, give me extreme high quality tools" mechanics and technicians in the past.
WVU Tuba Dale
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Fist a hammer, now a socket? I'm glad I bought my Snap-on stuff when I did, they won't be seeing much business from me with Chinese tools priced the way they are. $42.05 for a Chinese impact socket?
TireTracks
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^ you could buy a whole set of Chinese HF impacts for less.
Not I. I can tell you this year alone I dropped more than 20K into SO's coffers and went out of my way to insure every item was not made in China. IF I get to where I have no choice, I will buy German or Japanese tools. And if those bastards ship production to China, well then I'll just buy my Chinese made **** directly from Walmart and save the middle man markup at SO.
Joe69
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WVU Tuba Dale
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Count me in for the hammer deal as well A_P. =]
JakeD
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Expensive.
I'm not going to put my name on some plastic-handled girly playtoy like this:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...&group_ID=1043&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
I'm talking about a man's hammer, made from the same materials that go into an airliner.
It will elicit a "holy ****" from co-workers when you pull it out.
I love it.
Count me in.
truckdriver
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What happens when you warranty an american made top quality socket or wrench and you get a Taiwan/china/malaysia replacement because there are no USA made tools left? Damn, I just depressed my self saying that.
JeepsAreBuilt
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My answer to the $40 SO china hammer....
A Garland Split head hammer that has copper, polyurethane, nitride and rawhide inserts when a ball peen is too abusive to the work. The Garland is made in Saco, Maine (proudly marked on the side) with hickory handle. I expect to give this one to my son.
Oh, its also $30 (heads extra) from Mcmaster.com: http://www.mcmaster.com/#replaceable-face-hammers/=4itlw5
A Garland Split head hammer that has copper, polyurethane, nitride and rawhide inserts when a ball peen is too abusive to the work. The Garland is made in Saco, Maine (proudly marked on the side) with hickory handle. I expect to give this one to my son.
Oh, its also $30 (heads extra) from Mcmaster.com: http://www.mcmaster.com/#replaceable-face-hammers/=4itlw5
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fatfillup
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I sent in my opinion to Snap ON. I suggest you all do the same. Got a reply back that it was recieved and forwarded to the proper folks. If enough people complain, something might happen. If no one complains, expect more Chicrap to say Snap On.
Mickey O
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Send them this:
And tell them if China makes such great quality products why not proudly display the country of origin.