IR 2135 and 2235 seem "weak"

[sld961]

Hi. My dad has had a Craftsman Professional (rebranded IR) impact wrench for many years and it's been a great gun. I bought an IR2135 a while ago and I've only used it once or twice. When I used it, it "sounded weak" and didn't work "as fast" as I expected. I didn't think much of it because it was only once.

Fast forward. We got my dad an IR2235 for Christmas. He used it today and it's like deja vu. It "sounds weak" and it wasn't "as fast" as the old one. Is this a normal thing for IR? Are they both defective? I got them both off of eBay from sellers with good feedback.

 

[MrGiggles]

New or used guns?

If used, check the inlet screens for debris.

This is kind of obvious, but make sure the power setting is turned up all the way, and the forward/reverse buttons are fully engaged in their intended position.

Otherwise, look into your air supply. I don't think it would be out of the ordinary if the new guns use more air than the one they replaced.

 

[WhiskeyRanger]

What size air lines and fittings are you using?

 

[abvw]

Quiet models? Insufficient air supply? Restrictive air fittings and hoses? Moisture in the tank? Direction buttons are pushed in all the way?

 

[sld961]

New guns, not quiet model. I made sure the direction buttons were pushed in all the way and the power dial was all the way up.

Hose is 3/8 with 1/4 fittings. There is a 50ish foot hose, then a 50ft reel.

So these new guns "require" more air than the old one would have. The old one works fine, but the new ones don't work 100% with the restricted air flow? That makes sense to me? How much hose is too much? If we replace the 50ft before the hose with 3/4" pvc, would that likely be enough?

 

[dudutzu905]

while insufficient air would cause your concern another thing to consider is the fact that the newer guns are built with a "bigger capacity"(air volume, lack of a better term) and rpms are lower, and that would make it sound weak, yet they're stronger than ever. Just like a loud gun sounds more powerful same way a faster gun sounds more powerful.

 

[softailgarage]

Since IR went overrseas their product has gone to **** along with the customer service.

 

[MrGiggles]

Since IR went overrseas their product has gone to **** along with the customer service.

Newer impacts are a lot more refined too.

My aircat sounds like a child's toy until you put it work.

 

[WhiffySpark]

New guns, not quiet model. I made sure the direction buttons were pushed in all the way and the power dial was all the way up.

Hose is 3/8 with 1/4 fittings. There is a 50ish foot hose, then a 50ft reel.

So these new guns "require" more air than the old one would have. The old one works fine, but the new ones don't work 100% with the restricted air flow? That makes sense to me? How much hose is too much? If we replace the 50ft before the hose with 3/4" pvc, would that likely be enough?

What size compressor do you. And don't mention pvc on here. That's grounds to be ripped apart

 

[GTA Matt]

How much air pressure? I have 125 psi while the gun is in use and my 2235 is an animal. Also on a 50 foot 3/8 hose reel with about 20 feet of 3/8 hose feeding it, 1/4" fittings. Under 110 psi or so and its a little soggy to use.

 

[abvw]

Hose is 3/8 with 1/4 fittings. There is a 50ish foot hose, then a 50ft reel.

There's your problem, you have 100+ feet of hoses and a 1/4" fitting. I'd say anything over 40 feet from the tank will have noticeable performance drop.

 

[sld961]

What size compressor do you. And don't mention pvc on here. That's grounds to be ripped apart

It's a 60 gallon "6.5hp", don't know the cfm. I don't think my dad would do anything other than pvc. Sch 40 is rated for 600psi, I don't think he'll see the need for black iron with the cost and hassle.

 

[sld961]

There's your problem, you have 100+ feet of hoses and a 1/4" fitting. I'd say anything over 40 feet from the tank will have noticeable performance drop.

I'll have him hook it right up to the compressor with an average length hose and see if it gets better. If that's the case, we'll start with replacing the 3/8 hose up to the reel with something bigger.

 

[Skin]

Since IR went overrseas their product has gone to **** along with the customer service.

2135 and 2235 are largely made in the USA except for components which have become commonly imported (such as small bearings).

Noise does not equal power. Chances are your old impact was just a big noise maker and the hammer housing was probably blown out to boot from years of use. The only reason they even sell unmuffled versions of the gun is because too many people are caught up by the fact that loud is power. Fairly certain Marlin said the difference in torque was negligible.

Also keep in mind new impacts come greased and have a bit of a break in period.

 

[areyouanywhere]

Like someone else mentioned check your air pressure, you want at least 90psi while the gun is in use. The 2235's in my experience like a lot of oil, I would put a few teaspoons in and run it holding a rag over the exhaust...

You can send it to a service center for warranty also, they will test it on a skidmore to make sure it puts out the power it should and fix if needed.

 

[sld961]

I had my dad hook it up to the compressor with a short hose and he said it was much better. Now we need to get some plumbing done on the air lines.

 

[fury9]

Make sure you oil it

 

[FriendOfYours]

PVC is a big no no. When we moved into this building there was PVC that had shattered from a stray socket. The previous tenant showed me the 4inch scar across his arm where the shrapnel had torn through half an inch deep of flesh

He will be very very sad if something ever happens like that to him. PVC that is exposed to UV will become brittle very quickly and can explode with no notice

I have several older guns that are noisy and fast, but not half as powerful as my 2135. Milton V are your friend. Skip the lines and go to high flow fittings with as few of couplers as possible. You want a hard connector to your hose from your tank, and a coupler only where your tools meet the line

 

[liam.fenemore]

Also keep in mind new impacts come greased and have a bit of a break in period.

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I bought the 2235QTiMax and the impacting sounding kinda soft out of the box, but as I used it and it started spitting some of the grease out, it sounded and felt better.

 

[sld961]

Update on this in case anyone searched this in the future. The problem has been solved by removing two quick connects between the tank and the reel, moving the reel closer to the tank, and using a 1/2" hose from the tank to the reel.

 

[bcradio]

Thank you for updating this. I plan to get a 2235 soon.

 

[mark.dziamski]

I use the 2115, 2135 and 2145. I wouldn't choose any other gun, very powerful and durable. I'm a heavy truck mechanic so they get used pretty close to daily and I have had then for 4 years now.

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