IR Compressors

[Djstorm100]

The future wife and I just bought our first house and while I have a shop at my Dad's it is time for me to build my own. We have a kobalt that has lasted me since 07 and only need a pressure switch. I'm curious if IR air compressor are still built with quality in mind. I'm thinking of getting a 60, which is what I'm use to. Don't need more but I don't want to go smaller in case I either build a new garage with more room or get media blast cabinet.

 

[Davefr]

The future wife and I just bought our first house and while I have a shop at my Dad's it is time for me to build my own. We have a kobalt that has lasted me since 07 and only need a pressure switch. I'm curious if IR air compressor are still built with quality in mind. I'm thinking of getting a 60, which is what I'm use to. Don't need more but I don't want to go smaller in case I either build a new garage with more room or get media blast cabinet.

I'd stay away from IR unless you get one of their high end industrial units. Their consumer grade units are junk IMHO.

...and if I were going high end I'd go Champion or Quincy.

P.S. my compressor is an IR

 

[AP514]

I just got a HD 60Gal Husky....still not hooked up yet....

 

[Djstorm100]

I'd stay away from IR unless you get one of their high end industrial units. Their consumer grade units are junk IMHO.

...and if I were going high end I'd go Champion or Quincy.

P.S. my compressor is an IR

what makes you think or feel that they are a POS?

What are you looking for to determine it's quality? Motor and pump is really what you are buying.

 

[C96]

Try a search here on GJ and you will find many members not very happy with IR. I think it’s mostly the lower end machines that Davefr mentioned.

I think you’re going to have to up the ante over and above what you’re looking at to get anything of good quality.

Something with an all cast iron pump, 2stage, disc valves and preferably made in the USA, but then I’m biased, so……

 

[Bob C]

What are you looking for to determine it's quality? Motor and pump is really what you are buying.

AGREED, however, the less expensive IRs have a very cheap imported pump on them which IR only partially supports. I've had it apart and as stated, it is less than the quality people have come to know IR for.

 

[Handoogies]

Piston compressors don't really matter much, many of the components are all manufactured in China regardless of brand. Screw compressors you would need to buy from one of the top guys (UR, Atlas Copco, Kaiser, etc) There are only about half dozen manufacturing facilities in the world that can produce a screw head on a 5 axis mill.

 

[sparky7]

Dont listen to this guy ^^^^ lol

 

[C96]

Piston compressors don't really matter much, many of the components are all manufactured in China regardless of brand.

Again, your talking about the lower end machines. Step it up in quality and you’ll find the high dollar compressors are 100% USA made. Saylor-Beall is a good example of this, superior quality and all American.

 

[seagravedriver]

I bought a higher end IR for my house, and it has gone very well. Bought a lower end one for work, (a fire station, light duty), and if *****. Switches going bad, service not interested in the fact that it went out days after warranty was up. OK, I understand, warranty was up, so that means the next few compressors will not be IR. My big problem with them was their attitude on the phone. I have been very embarrassed I recommended it to the fire dept. I work for. Spend the money now!

 

[c39er]

Home owner grade IR's= no good Chinese junk.

 

[Durka]

Never a problem with IR's here. I've had two since 01. First was a Garage Mate SS2 or something or other. Very nice machine for a smaller single stage unit. The guy who bought my last hose wanted that included with the deal. I don't usually sell any tools, but he wanted it pretty bad lol. I bought another after that. This time I went with their 80 gallon two stage for around a grand. It's been solid, definitely got my moneys worth....It's really been a great machine.My uncle has an 80 gallon IR as well, cousin has a VERY nice Champion. Beautiful machine. Yea, they are definitely built better, push more CFM's and will last a life time if taken care of. But, that Champion is an 80 gallon as well and cost more than twice what the IR costs. That's not a bad thing, -you get what you pay for.
I'm not sure what's going on here, -this is the only site that has bad mouthed the IR's. Funny thing is, there isn't one post that I've seen where the complainer actually new the model number of his machine. I would like to know which ones are bad... So uknow, take it with a grain of salt. I've seen posts mention Chinese junk (really??) referring to IR's, but again, no model numbers. So where's the evidence?
Anyway, my first IR had an Emerson motor, the one I have now has a USA motors motor. Both had Cast Iron pumps, made in India. Yea, I'm not sure what the deal is here, but I've always heard praise about the IR's and to date, I can't honestly say a bad thing about them, with my experiences.

The compressors that I have had personal experience with are the Garage Mate, -

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/to..._sku=1592073&gclid=CMbSjtySnr4CFepAMgod_FkALQ

(My GM had a vertical pump like the TS4N5... - Purchased it shortly after the IR Garage Mates were first introduced.)

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Compressor I have now is the IR TS4N5 2 stage 80 gallon unit, -

http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/am-en/products/air/small-reciprocating-air-compressors/ts4n5

IMO , - you get what you pay with compressors.

 

[Bob C]

Never a problem with IR's here. I've had two since 01. First was a Garage Mate SS2 or something or other. Very nice machine for a smaller single stage unit. The guy who bought my last hose wanted that included with the deal. I don't usually sell any tools, but he wanted it pretty bad lol. I bought another after that. This time I went with their 80 gallon two stage for around a grand. It's been solid, definitely got my moneys worth....It's really been a great machine.My uncle has an 80 gallon IR as well, cousin has a VERY nice Champion. Beautiful machine. Yea, they are definitely built better, push more CFM's and will last a life time if taken care of. But, that Champion is an 80 gallon as well and cost more than twice what the IR costs. That's not a bad thing, -you get what you pay for.
I'm not sure what's going on here, -this is the only site that has bad mouthed the IR's. Funny thing is, there isn't one post that I've seen where the complainer actually new the model number of his machine. I would like to know which ones are bad... So uknow, take it with a grain of salt. I've seen posts mention Chinese junk (really??) referring to IR's, but again, no model numbers. So where's the evidence?
Anyway, my first IR had an Emerson motor, the one I have now has a USA motors motor. Both had Cast Iron pumps, made in India. Yea, I'm not sure what the deal is here, but I've always heard praise about the IR's and to date, I can't honestly say a bad thing about them, with my experiences.

The compressors that I have had personal experience with are the Garage Mate, -

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/to..._sku=1592073&gclid=CMbSjtySnr4CFepAMgod_FkALQ

(My GM had a vertical pump like the TS4N5... - Purchased it shortly after the IR Garage Mates were first introduced.)

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Compressor I have now is the IR TS4N5 2 stage 80 gallon unit, -

http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/am-en/products/air/small-reciprocating-air-compressors/ts4n5

IMO , - you get what you pay with compressors.

Model number ? Go look at any tractor supply that sells I/R for around a grand or under. IF you buy the 242,253 or 2420,2430,2520,2530,2475 pumps, and a couple other numbers in this range, then you have an I/R.

 

[Bob C]

Piston compressors don't really matter much, many of the components are all manufactured in China regardless of brand. Screw compressors you would need to buy from one of the top guys (UR, Atlas Copco, Kaiser, etc) There are only about half dozen manufacturing facilities in the world that can produce a screw head on a 5 axis mill.

Kaeser. lol.

I agree with C96, You have to rise from the retail store quality to get to superior craftsmanship.

 

[Durka]

Model number ? Go look at any tractor supply that sells I/R for around a grand or under. IF you buy the 242,253 or 2420,2430,2520,2530,2475 pumps, and a couple other numbers in this range, then you have an I/R.

Not sure what your getting at ? You must not of read my post lol.

That's alright, - anyway, been there done that and it's in my garage, never had a problem. First one came from Home Depot. Great compressor! Never had a problem and that was 13 years ago. Second one and most recent came from TSC for a about a grand. If your going to bad mouth a manufacturer, at least be factual about it.

Seriously, all these complaints about IR's seem phoney and bias, - for other reasons...Some call them Chinese Junk Like I said, I ONLY see this at this site. Reviews say otherwise.

The link I posted above is a perfect example. So prove me wrong...at least give me some kind of reliable data.

 

[seagravedriver]

If I was not detailed enough with our troubles with IR, my apologies. The link to the model we have at the fire station and was problem plagued is here. http://www.grainger.com/product/INGERSOLL-RAND-Electric-Air-Compressor-4YW10?functionCode=P2IDP2PCP It has gone through two pressure switches and one motor, all at full cost, all in the 3months after warranty was over.

My compressor is this one which has been problem free over the last 7 years of light shop use. Both were wired by electricians. http://www.grainger.com/product/INGERSOLL-RAND-Electric-Air-Compressor-4L976

 

[Durka]

Thanks for your reply. Man, Grainger has some incredibly high prices on some of their stuff don't they lol. For instance, first thing I noticed that seemed out of whack was their IR start up kits at $131.00

Zoro charges 11.99 per quart of the same Select pump oil and $9.95 for a box of 5 of the SAME filters. Both the same IR products except the oil is sold by the quart over there. Free shipping, IF your order is $50 +.

Anyway, a little confused about the origins of the two compressors in the links you provided. The unit you had at the fire station came from the USA. The unit you use for light duty came from China ? That's what it says. That said, I'd rather have my 1000 dollar TSC IR vs any of those models. It's a better compressor IMO. There's nothing special with either one that would warrant them that expensive IMO. Somethings wrong there.
I mean $1560.00 for a IR 135 psi 60 gal single stage, developing 15.4 cfm max ? Then $2170 for a two stage 60 gal 175 psi developing 14.3 cfm max. Hell, you could get a T30 series for that price.
The IR for $987 at TSC is a two stage 80 gallon 175 psi developing 15.9 CFM. It's a solid unit. Personally I'd rather have the vertical pump vs the V.

Anyway, I'm not familiar with the models you linked to..which is definitely interesting. I am going to go back and look into those models further, -out of curiosity. Perhaps find others that have had experience with those models as well. Thanks again for posting.

Before I purchased my second IR, the models I was considering were the cheaper TS4N5 models or T30 series. It came down to either the IR TS4N5 (India pumps/USA Motors motor) or the Champion (pure USA, -which I favored the most) compressor vs the IR T30 series.

If I had an excuse to get rid of this IR, I would, no problem. - Then fork it over for Champion model compressor or perhaps a Saylor-Beall as a needed upgrade. Just don't have an excuse yet...dangit!

 

[Davefr]

what makes you think or feel that they are a POS?

Experience.

The short answer is:
- Crappy pumps
- Lack of ongoing parts availability
- Poor support from IR
- Poor value. Illusion of high quality/brand name but in reality low end.
- Very underwhelming consumer reviews. (bad motors, recalls, problems, etc)

 

[Bob C]

Experience.

The short answer is:
- Crappy pumps
- Lack of ongoing parts availability
- Poor support from IR
- Poor value. Illusion of high quality/brand name but in reality low end.
- Very underwhelming consumer reviews. (bad motors, recalls, problems, etc)

Got to second this! ^^^

 

[Durka]

If I was not detailed enough with our troubles with IR, my apologies.

Well, I can't believe I haven't stumbled across this before. -Anyway, apparently there was a problem with the Emerson motors in the past. From what I gather so far, this wasn't Emersons problem. This was due to IR installing these motors on units that would very likely over-tax these motors.

I'll research further about other issues spoken off here, - with hopes that I won't have to eat ALL my words.

 

[seagravedriver]

My IR home unit is old enough that I am unable to find a link to it. I bought it at a IR store. They sold NOTHING but IR items, and were friendly and helpful. They gave me a good deal on the "extras", such as additional filters, oil and such. If I remember right, they did not even charge me for them. They just made it "worth it" to buy there. I left there THRILLED with my purchase. It may be the last compressor I buy. The one at the fire dept I wanted to get was out of our budget. The department kept buying Craftsman and DeWalt oilless units that were so loud they would wake us up at night, and then would snap a connecting rod after a year and a half or so. Literally, it was a broken rod. My hope was the IR salesman would steer me in the right direction, as he said he would. He did not. He was gone a few months after the purchase, (not from overpriced Granger, we bought from the factory store as I did), and his replacement was a gold plated ***). My career plan is, after a few more years as a firefighter paramedic, when I can no longer lift 400 pound complaining people, is to get into logistics. To get the best item that will last the longest. IR did nothing to help themselves out. We have 5 more career stations to equip,and 5 volunteer stations to do in the next 5 to 10 years. Maybe it is not much, but I am a taxpayer in the district, as are many friends and relatives who deserve a lot of bang for their buck.

 

[Djstorm100]

Thoughts on this one?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200350475_200350475

 

[sublimate]

If you've got another $500, stepping up to this one would make a big difference:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200451863_200451863

It's got a much heavier duty pump that spins at a lower rpm (942 vs 1310) so it's a lot quieter. More CFM, bigger tank, and longer life to boot.

 

[seagravedriver]

Step up if you can! Quincy would be a great choice!!

 

[Durka]

My IR home unit is old enough that I am unable to find a link to it. I bought it at a IR store. They sold NOTHING but IR items, and were friendly and helpful. They gave me a good deal on the "extras", such as additional filters, oil and such. If I remember right, they did not even charge me for them. They just made it "worth it" to buy there. I left there THRILLED with my purchase. It may be the last compressor I buy. The one at the fire dept I wanted to get was out of our budget. The department kept buying Craftsman and DeWalt oilless units that were so loud they would wake us up at night, and then would snap a connecting rod after a year and a half or so. Literally, it was a broken rod. My hope was the IR salesman would steer me in the right direction, as he said he would. He did not. He was gone a few months after the purchase, (not from overpriced Granger, we bought from the factory store as I did), and his replacement was a gold plated ***). My career plan is, after a few more years as a firefighter paramedic, when I can no longer lift 400 pound complaining people, is to get into logistics. To get the best item that will last the longest. IR did nothing to help themselves out. We have 5 more career stations to equip,and 5 volunteer stations to do in the next 5 to 10 years. Maybe it is not much, but I am a taxpayer in the district, as are many friends and relatives who deserve a lot of bang for their buck.

I hear yuh haha. Yea those oil-less compressors get old real quick. Haven't experienced a broken a rod though. Personally, I had an obnoxious Porter Cable pancake that just wore out; -well, blew the head gasket anyway and wouldn't shut up after that.
Yea I figured you purchased your IR was from elsewhere. Grainger seems to be alright,- IF your purchasing high volume, but their individual retail is for the birds. Huh, a genuine IR store; never seen one. We have an IR Plant here in Michigan, but no stores to my knowledge. Sounds like you got a GREAT deal on that IR at home.
Read a little more about the Emerson motor problem and things are beginning to make sense. My first IR was purchased in 01. That was the Garage mate and it came with an Emerson motor. Great little compressor, but it was purchased BEFORE IR began to have problems from what I gather. The newer compressor I purchased in 2012 was the TS4N5 Model, tank plate....well I'll just post some pics, tank decal,-

View media item 40329
Motor Decal, -

View media item 39107
That's a USmotors motor...assembled in Mexico.

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Other info:

Tank Plate, - IR23686900 ~ Serial- MI78558...Year 2011

Pump, = TS-5 ~ Serial- BO85888, made in India.

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Switch, - Made in USA (Hubbel Archdale NC)

Model - 1-R23474653-A 230/1/60 Single Phase

Volts -120/240
FLA ---34/26
LRA ---144/130

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So the new home compressor I purchased was apparently AFTER the Emerson motor problem was dealt with (right after!). Different Motor, Different Switch. My first home unit was purchased before the problem (2001). That said, I did do quite a bit of research before purchasing the newer IR (2011 model) and didn't come across the motor Emerson motor problem then. Like I said before, I don't know how I missed it.
I will search further about the other IR problems mentioned in this thread. I definitely don't want to be responsible for misinformation and won't if I can help it.

BTW, sounds like you have a respectable career,- and future plans are right on. Might want to get about 3 more guys helping you with those complaining 400 lb'ers though...you know, -one at each corner. Perhaps a set of muffs would do you well.

 

[Durka]

Thoughts on this one?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200350475_200350475

Looks good. Bothers me about those specs Northern has. They don't have the CFM's on them. That's a fairly important factor when purchasing a compressor.

Also, be aware that Quincy has just recently entered into the home user market. They are manufacturing lessor units now,- in order to be competitive in this market. Since this is fact, check them out well and ask lots of questions.

With Quincy and most compressors alike, you really do get what you pay for. In a sense that,- the more that you pay, the better the machine. At that price (cheap for a Quincy), -I'd be a little curious..worth looking into anyway.

 

[Djstorm100]

That's the thing have 1k to worth with aka what I would like to spend. I don't know if the motor/pump is good or not. Sure you can look at the motor life hours but doesn't tell you anything about the pump.


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[Durka]

That's the thing have 1k to worth with aka what I would like to spend. I don't know if the motor/pump is good or not. Sure you can look at the motor life hours but doesn't tell you anything about the pump.


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I didn't catch your first comment ? But, it's usually just the pump life that's rated in hours.

If your interested in Quincy, -you would think the best thing to do would be to go to there sight. Not always, but they do have a great site. I went there and learned the best possible pipe/filter set up for my systems output. Formulas used to make sense of things. -Info that can be hard to find...for instance, here,-

http://www.quincycompressor.com/resources-1/knowledge-center.html

I believe the model your looking at has been discontinued ? Regardless, - if your looking for better info about a particular units specs, -type the model # into google search or which ever provider you use to search with.

And of course, ask questions like you doing. Someone here may have one, or can give you more info, if they have it.

 

[Djstorm100]

I didn't catch your first comment ? But, it's usually just the pump life that's rated in hours.

If your interested in Quincy, -you would think the best thing to do would be to go to there sight. Not always, but they do have a great site. I went there and learned the best possible pipe/filter set up for my systems output. Formulas used to make sense of things. -Info that can be hard to find...for instance, here,-

http://www.quincycompressor.com/resources-1/knowledge-center.html

I believe the model your looking at has been discontinued ? Regardless, - if your looking for better info about a particular units specs, -type the model # into google search or which ever provider you use to search with.

And of course, ask questions like you doing. Someone here may have one, or can give you more info, if they have it.

That's precisely what I'm doing. I think this is a off brand that is branded quincy that NT sales. As it is quite common sadly. But looking at the Borchue online it is the QT model (QT Motor)

 

[Durka]

Yea, I'd have to go look at that Qunicy compressor in person, - since even the manufacturer seems to be hiding the specifications lol.. That's screwed up! I haven't seen that before.... -Hell IR doesn't even do that. Here's what they're letting you know, - by hints given, -

First, they say in the description that's a "low" rpm unit. Most Quincy's are, - like 700-900 rpms. NOT that one. They give you the pump speed, it's @ 1310 rpms. So that means the motor speed has to be around 3450 rpms (yea, they don't say) That right there is a long way off of what the basic Quincy's use to be.

Quincy does have more faith in their pump even at that rpm vs IR. 30,000 hrs or 3 years. IR's are 15,000 hrs. You might think Quincy's pump on that model has to better.. It might be, but, -being the pumps of a new breed for the manufacturer, that could be a time will tell deal and btw, - who the hell puts 30,000 hrs on their pump in 3 years? - Or even half that.

They don't give you the CFM's of that unit. Red flag, since you can't find that , even at their site. I'd guess it's around 15 CFM. Right, you have to guess, they aren't releasing that info right up front. I'd pass on it because of that. Why would you they hide that ?

I'd be careful about those consumer grade Quincy's. Something doesn't add up.

 

[willsterman]

30,000 pump hours in 3 years on a Quincy??? Interesting because 24 hours a day times 365 days is 8760 hours a year x 3 years = 26,280 hours in 3 years if the motor and pump ran continuously . I guess the marketing guy at Quincy didn't do very well in math.

I bought a 60 gallon 5 hp 135 psi, 230v unit on sale from Menards for $500 3 years ago which I have in the garage. Nothing special but works fine to run my air tools such as 1/2" impact wrench. I plan to get an 80 gallon for my shop.

Here is a $1100 unit at Farm & Fleet (stores in the midwest) and equal to many others that have pumps made oversees and motors made outside the USA, and yet I think they are labeled "Built in the USA" because the company mounted the components on the tank in the USA.

http://www.farmandfleet.com/product...e-industrial-air-compressor.html#.U3BZ7_ldWHY

Don't know much about Schrader compressors, but Menard's is starting to carry them. Here is a nice looking unit at $2250 on sale:

http://www.menards.com/main/tools-h...tm_medium=flyer_hosted&utm_campaign=weekly_ad

Per the Federal Trade Commission (FTC):
For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S.

A product that includes foreign components may be called "Assembled in USA" without qualification when its principal assembly takes place in the U.S. and the assembly is substantial. For the "assembly" claim to be valid, the product’s last "substantial transformation" also should have occurred in the U.S.

I believe some companies are trying to trick consumers by using "Built in USA" or "Manufactured in the USA" and/or sometimes putting the country of origin in a place that is very hard to find.

My intuition is that the big name compressor companies are selling compressors in many stores for about $900 to $1500 figuring that 98% of buyers will have the motor/pump running for a few hours a week doing projects in their garage which only adds up to 100 to 300 hours a year of run time. If they can build it for $500 then sell to retailer for $900 and the retailer sells for $1500 to you or me everyone is happy - until we are one of the 2% buyers that use the compressor way more than expected or we get the frequent occurence of a lemon pump or motor since the quality isn't there.

A body-shop business isn't going to buy a $1500 compressor with a china pump/motor. Instead they may have a $10,000 compressor with higher quality components that can take the hours and put out the quality air. That is the kind of compressor I would buy if I was Bill Gates or was a president that could have someone write a book for me and sell it for millions, even though it would mostly sit idle in my garage.

Me on the other hand, I'm trying to decide if I should get the $1100 Farm and Fleet or a $2000 Schrader, Quincy, or IR. Anybody know about Schrader? Menards doesn't have one yet to look at.

Good luck to us!

 

[C96]

Anybody know about Schrader?

Lol, The Schrader pump looks to be a Saylor- Beall 707 knock-off!
Many companies have copied Saylor- Beall with the Chinese clone pumps. Saylor-Beall is the original and has been since 1915.

The Schrader

The Saylor-Beall




The Saylor-Beall is also 100% made in the USA

 

[Bob C]

Exactly! ^^^

 

[jpearson]

For what it's worth I have a 60 gal, 5hp, 2 stage IR that I bought around 4 years ago. I have used it mostly for HVLP painting and blast cabinet work. I use it lightly - once or twice a week for an hour or two. I have never had a single problem. Works great and has run all my tools without issue.

 

[Durka]

30,000 pump hours in 3 years on a Quincy??? Interesting because 24 hours a day times 365 days is 8760 hours a year x 3 years = 26,280 hours in 3 years if the motor and pump ran continuously . I guess the marketing guy at Quincy didn't do very well in math.

I know right

Some one at Quincy must of done did the ole 2 minute cut and paste method.. right quick.

Me on the other hand, I'm trying to decide if I should get the $1100 Farm and Fleet or a $2000 Schrader, Quincy, or IR. Anybody know about Schrader? Menards doesn't have one yet to look at.

Good luck to us!

I like the the Saylor-Beall, always have, -even the older units are nice and worth restoring, if you find one. There's a few of those on this site that were restored beautifully! I put them in the same category as Champions (can't forget about Champions). Perhaps a little above since the SB's have that cool inter-cooling system.. factory. Those two that C96 posted above are a perfect example. - Low rpms, v-pump w/that inter-cooling system....bet it runs cool. Those units would probably last many generations if maintained. Definitely no need for after cooler, -that's if you run the correct plumbing. Can't leave out all those CFM's...Fine machines. The difference between 15 and 25 cfms can be anywhere between 1000 -2000 bucks.

Good Luck for sure! Attempting to choose lol.

 

[Durka]

For what it's worth I have a 60 gal, 5hp, 2 stage IR that I bought around 4 years ago. I have used it mostly for HVLP painting and blast cabinet work. I use it lightly - once or twice a week for an hour or two. I have never had a single problem. Works great and has run all my tools without issue.

Same here, except I went with the 80 gallon 5hp, 2 stage IR. NOTHING Chinese on this one. I don't have a cabinet, but I blast and HVLP as well. It's been a good unit!

 

[sublimate]

30,000 pump hours in 3 years on a Quincy??? Interesting because 24 hours a day times 365 days is 8760 hours a year x 3 years = 26,280 hours in 3 years if the motor and pump ran continuously . I guess the marketing guy at Quincy didn't do very well in math.

I think you're conflating "warranty" with "design life".

They have a 3-year warranty on the pump (if you buy their oil change kit - if you don't it's only 1 year). There's no hour meter and there' no limit on the hours, it's just 3 years from the date on the receipt.

The pump is designed for 30,000 hours (this is their "cheap" ~$1300 model, their ~$2000 models have a 50,000 hour design life).

 

[Durka]

Thoughts on this one?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200350475_200350475

Just found that one again in a TP tools ad I get in the mail. More info this time, -

Maybe they have it online ?? Yep, it's online as well,-

http://www.tptools.com/Quincy-5HP-2-Stage-60-Gal-Air-Compressor,8112.html?b=s*compressors

15.2 cfm @175 psi.
5 horse 22 amp motor

Oh and this time the ad says 50,000 hour pump life.

It doesn't beat the $1000 IR compressor, but it's alright.

 

[willsterman]

Yes, the pump does look like a company in China copied the pump of S.B., and of course the casting doesn't appear to have the quality of the USA made in Michigan S.B. pump.

A 30,000 "expected" pump life separate from 3 year warranty makes sense.

I heard Quincy is now using a WEG rather than Baldor motor. Where is WEG made? I suppose even the lower end Baldor motors are not made in the USA???

If we ever get in a war with China, we will have to ask for a truce after one month so we can import products and parts to keep our country and military going. Sheesh!

Maybe you guys can save me some time in my search - I want an all (or mostly) made in USA compressor, 80 gal, 7.5 hp, 230V, single phase without spending the money on a Saylor-Beall. I will never use the compressor enough to justify a SB price so should I be looking at a Quincy for $2400 such as this:

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200350477_200350477

Any other suggestions in the $1500 to $2500 range that is currently all (or mostly) USA made?

Thanks!

 

[b-body-bob]

I suppose even the lower end Baldor motors are not made in the USA???

When I was looking for a 5hp motor I found a product sheet on the Baldor site that lists the country of origin for each of their motors. I didn't save a copy though, but with a little time you could find it.

Any other suggestions in the $1500 to $2500 range that is currently all (or mostly) USA made?

Look at Champion. 7-1/2hp is a little out of your budget but you never know what you can find if you shop around.