Irked @ Friends" borrowing the dumbest things....

[Automatic Slim]

A garden rake. Really?


I would not have known if my wife was not off work today, is this the don't ask don't tell age we now live?

The not ask REALLY bothers me, I don't care if it's a screwdriver, or screw for that matter. if ANYTHING leaves my shop, I have stated to ask first regardless.

I do have several friends who have access to my shop and borrow things on occassion, and hell I borrow things to from time to time if the rare need arises. But really more pissed about the not asking, and secondly he brings his girlfriends kid over who is a 19 yr old dope smoking dropout w/ no job that I have never met.

So now I'm mad x2, because you also need f*cking permission to enter my shop, and if I don't know you - it's not going to happen until I do. The more tools I have the more distrust I have - they go hand in hand; esp. some 19 year old punk who was rumored to be selling dope as well.


Go buy your own garden rake, maybe?? Unless it's your neighbor, there is no reason to borrow a man's garden rake, but then not even ask. Uh oh!! Looks like some security changes are in order.

Rant Over

 

[toolaholic]

My neighbor borrows **** all the time. But he asks.They have a emergency key to our house but never enter unless they ask or tell us. He even jokes that between his dad and I he never had to buy anything. He even borrows basic things he should own such as a six foot step ladder and a adjustable wrench.

 

[koditten]

Exactly!!

I don't know you, my friend does=no admittance for both.

KO

 

[Automatic Slim]

I have plans to use said garden rake this week, and if I went to my "chalk outline" and saw it was not there; I probably would politely blame my wife - which is never a good thing; but she is hap hazard and when I find a witte screwdriver in the garden area after a two day rain, my blood pressure starts to rise. Then after combing the common area for the damn rake, my day would be wrecked. Sure the hoe would be fine for moving 18 yds of soil to fill and level, but it just wouldn't be the same, not to mention the mental damage............. LOL

 

[Harrison2]

hes your "friend", you choose to keep his company

 

[Automatic Slim]

"this too shall pass?"


He's 50 years old, these basic lessons are usually taught at a very early age and later recounted in therapy sessions as a near death experience.

 

[Crusty Nut]

You seem to be a bit of a control freak. Don't worry, it's not a bad thing. You work hard for your stuff and expect to find it where you left it. I'm the same way. SO, why does your friends have access when you aren't around? If they have to see you to borrow stuff, it makes it much easier to keep track of your stuff.

I have several good friends who can borrow pretty much whatever I own...but they have to do it in person.

 

[tommudd]

One place I lived had a neighbor that borrowed EVERYTHING, from tools to light bulbs etc. Most times I got the tools back, but the best time was when one of his kids came over asking for three cups of sugar.
OK we lived a ways out of town so loan it to them. Next thing I know the kids are selling lemonade out at the road and came to ask me if I wanted to buy a glass.
WTH its my sugar in there, next day they came back for more, sadly I was all out ............of everything!
I sold that place and moved soon after and never did I miss them

 

[shooting4life]

General rule about borrowing things. If someone needs something more than one time they should go buy it.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Lock the door.

 

[G_P]

I had free acess to a friends shop to borrow whatever I needed. But I would leave a note on the door saying what I borrowed and when it would be returned.
This was only if I couldn't get my friend on the phone.
Borrowing something without telling the owner is just rude and disrespectful. Especially a dang rake! Its a commonly used tool and is cheap. Just go buy one.

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[Daniel Dudley]

Lock the door.

Well, YES.

 

[DCarr]

I have 2 very good friends that have keys to my shop, I have the keys to one of theirs ( other lives across the street from me ). Tools are used and borrowed often. I put up a dry erase board so whenever anyone ( whether I loan it or they borrow it ) they put their name and the tool on it.

I also write down the things I borrow ( I have a huge forged vise that I borrowed ).

 

[Automatic Slim]

Of course the door to shop is locked. But have hide a key that 10 peeps know. Don't have room in shop for garden tools and such. (I am a gj member) &store in big carport on doweled peg.

So it was like giving the kid a tour of my shop that has 50k worth of pawn able goods.

Need da. Rake, fine, just ask so I'm not looking for that dude.

 

[Automatic Slim]

Good idea dcarr, consider implemented before I go code orange

 

[OHMS LAW]

One of my friends just asked to borrow my new cordless impact. That was a good laugh.

 

[TOOL_MONGER]

A garden rake. Really?


I would not have known if my wife was not off work today, is this the don't ask don't tell age we now live?

The not ask REALLY bothers me, I don't care if it's a screwdriver, or screw for that matter. if ANYTHING leaves my shop, I have stated to ask first regardless.

I do have several friends who have access to my shop and borrow things on occassion, and hell I borrow things to from time to time if the rare need arises. But really more pissed about the not asking, and secondly he brings his girlfriends kid over who is a 19 yr old dope smoking dropout w/ no job that I have never met.

So now I'm mad x2, because you also need f*cking permission to enter my shop, and if I don't know you - it's not going to happen until I do. The more tools I have the more distrust I have - they go hand in hand; esp. some 19 year old punk who was rumored to be selling dope as well.


Go buy your own garden rake, maybe?? Unless it's your neighbor, there is no reason to borrow a man's garden rake, but then not even ask. Uh oh!! Looks like some security changes are in order.

Rant Over

I feel your... pain... anger.. I feel uncomfortable having people I don't know in my shop. All it takes is them or someone they talk to, to break in an ruin my day.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Get rid of that so called hide a key. If that many people know about it, that's a bad thing.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Get an electronic lock. I didn't want to carry another key on my key ring, so I had a hide a key for several years. Finally got tired of digging out the hide a key, so I installed a Schlage electronic pushbutton lock. Liked it so much I put one on the house. Programmed codes in it for people I know that might need access. I can lock any one out by deleting their code. Only hassle is replacing the 9v battery once a year. I don't need my keys to get in either.

Couple of years ago when I posted about this, I got all the stupid remarks, "well someone could FIGURE out the code", "someone could hide in the bushes and watch you punch in the code", "buttons will discolor and show which ones you use all the time",yada yada.

Buttons are something like teflon coated, never seem to hold dirt or discolor, ain't no one going to hide in the bushes or watch with a telescope from across the street just in the hope to figure out the code, and after three tries the lock makes you wait 30 seconds before trying again. I love this thing, has made life immensely easier.

Only issue is that sometimes it requires you punch a bunch of buttons to "wake" it up. Then it works OK. Seems to do this more in cold weather, but it happens only infrequently, once every month or two.

Charles

 

[HTGTS350]

I have no one who I call friend and like the X files I trust no none, enter my property and you risk leaving in a bag, I borrow from no one and lend to no one.

 

[Crusty Nut]

I have no one who I call friend and like the X files I trust no none, enter my property and you risk leaving in a bag, I borrow from no one and lend to no one.

Gee, you sound like a fun guy to hang out with.

 

[HTGTS350]

That would be why I hang alone.

 

[Herb]

Borrow his wife for a while without asking him first. He doesn't sound like the type of guy that would care if he got sloppy seconds.

 

[Clubber]

I use the same combo lock Charlies does and keep my lawn tools in a locked shed. I have a few close friends I have known for years who could walk in my shop anytime. I never worry about anything they use or borrow because they make sure I get it back or let me know they have whatever. We've been through a lot together so (except the wife) they can have whatever they need. I wish I could same the same for my brother who I love but has lost my tools, broke my tools wrecked my trailer and has only made excuses and never offered to fix or replace anything. I wouldn't make him pay it back but the offer would be nice.

 

[the gypsy]

An old Italian saying " If lending out your stuff was a good thing, Men would lend out their wives." Stop and think about that one. I do not like to lend out my tools, there are few people that take care of their tools as I do. Often they abuse them because the tools are not their own.

 

[Kevin54]

To the OP.......Man you are just too damn trusting. Way too trusting.

The guys I worked with at work I considered friends. Most of them I trained to be a machinist. When I brought my box home, I found out that there was about 30-50 things missing. I made a list and have it around somewhere. Someone picked the lock and removed the items. I have a good idea who did it and who has the tools. But to prove it, I'd have to have access to the shop, which once you are out of there, there is no going back in.

I have a lockbox mounted on the outside of my garage that has a key to the garage, house, and shed. It's heavy duty and has pushbutton code to get into it. So if we are locked out of the house, or if per chance we would happen to be gone and needed someone to check on something, we can make a phone call and give them the code.

But as far as someone coming in and borrowing something without telling me, that ain't happenin'. I would never ever consider going into someones garage without talking to them in person. And if I did go into the garage WITH their permission, I sure as hell wouldn't be taking someone else in with me. Like I said above, even the ones you consider friends will be the first ones to **** you over.

And to borrow a rake? Tell them to get in the car and buy their own damn rake!!!! I;d be embarrassed to even ask someone to borrow a rake. The days of Herb Woodley and Dagwood Bumstead don't work today.

This is the type I have (Supra). And it is fairly heavy built.

 

[gpalmer77]

My in-laws have "borrowed" three of my rakes now, none of which have come back. Plastic leaf rakes, which I prefer over the old wire ones..... the kicker is, they harp on about how they prefer the metal ones over my new-fangled plastic ones...... yet they come over, take my rake, use it, then lose it. (How do you lose a rake?)

I used to get pi$$ed about it, now I just buy a new rake.

As far as my shop and my tools though..... hands off. If you go in there without my permission, you'll know about it. Maybe only two exceptions to that rule.

 

[Carbine]

I don't borrow tools.

I quit loaning tools a long time ago after they came back abused. (if they came back at all)

I had a neighbor who was a whiz at carpentry. When I needed advice or suggestions I would go to him and also find out what tools he recommended for the best results. Over the years I've built up a nice set of tools based on knowledgeable folks experiences.

Last year I had the roof replaced. The crew left a trailer behind 'cause it had a flat. The supervisor came over and asked to borrow a jack. Even though it was parked in front of my house and I was ready to see it leave, I told the guy sorry, no can do. He knew it had a flat and he didn't bring a jack?
Right....

 

[Dan in Pasadena]

I have a relative that I TRULY like, but frankly, he's a moocher.

The "kid" is 44 years old ("kid", just cause he's in the 2nd generation of my wife's family. One of the "kids" from the 8 original siblings). He's into flipping cars and he's good at it - so why not have YOUR OWN FRIGGIN SET OF TOOLS?!

Yes, I occasionally loan him something; like a battery charger. C'mon, you flip cars for a big part of your living and you DON'T have a battery charger? I even told him this...goes in one ear and accelerates going out the other....though I noticed he hasn't asked to borrow THAT tool again.

 

[Old Moparz]

Of the few times I lent out a tool it truly never came back. Fortunately it wasn't anything expensive, but I learned from that mistake & won't ever do it again. The one positive thing though, my next door neighbor & I share part of an unpaved road leading to our driveways. He is one of the people I lent a shovel & rake to that have not been returned. He has been filling potholes in the gravel with my shovel & rake so I haven't done it in ages.

I never ask to borrow any tools from anyone but a couple of years ago I did borrow a gravity fed sand blasting gun. I was telling a coworker what I was doing & he offered it to me to use so I accepted it. I gave it back as well.

 

[JimVonBaden]

Exactly!!

I don't know you, my friend does=no admittance for both.

KO

Yikes:

Jim

 

[Jay Sco]

I found my rake and other garden tools outside the other day and got pissed. And that was my wife and mother-in-law! And they are also the reason I have to lock my toolbox in my garage. Maybe I should just flip the locks on the garage door, so they lock from the inside.

 

[Frank N. Stein]

I'm quickly learning that my new neighbor is a complete moocher... so far I've lent him my cordless drill, step ladder, jig saw, and my truck! He asked me if I had a hammer drill the other day, I told him I just bought it, haven't even taken it out of the box yet... can't believe he still asked to borrow it. At that point I just had to say no. I see him going to other neighbors for stuff too...

I don't have a problem lending tools, but at least reciprocate or bring me a beer or two.

 

[the gypsy]

I'm quickly learning that my new neighbor is a complete moocher... so far I've lent him my cordless drill, step ladder, jig saw, and my truck! He asked me if I had a hammer drill the other day, I told him I just bought it, haven't even taken it out of the box yet... can't believe he still asked to borrow it. At that point I just had to say no. I see him going to other neighbors for stuff too...

I don't have a problem lending tools, but at least reciprocate or bring me a beer or two.

If at least he would pay you back with a hot dog (frank) and a german beer in a stein, it might go over better. lol

 

[Clubber]

I used to get blamed for my brother using my dads tools as well. I started buying my own as a teenager and have been ever since. My parents came to live with us for a bit after selling their house and looking into retirement homes. When he left he took about a small tool box full of my tools with his. I didn't say anything, I just replaced them. The price of those tools is nothing compared to having a good relationship with my dad. Does make me laugh though.

 

[66dave]

I completely agree with you! Last year I got so pissed about the same lady asking to use my 12' a-frame ladder, so I decided to sell it in a yard sale. She came by and I kindly pointed out. Then get this she says "why would I buy anything like that when I just borrow it all the time", lets just say she nor will any member of her family borrow anything again. So pissed!

 

[6t7gto]

I let my neighbor use my lift to work on his car. The car was there for a few days. I went to the garage fridge to get a beer and they were all gone. He drank them.
During this same time, I came home in the afternoon and he had his car outside my garage. It was all masked off and he was spray painting the roof on his car. My garage doors were open and my two 67 GTO's were right inside the door. I went ballistic on him.
Told to get the eff out and don't come back.

 

[Tarheelgarage]

I bet that neighbor that borrowed the rake has all of the latest TVs, computers, apple phones, etc in their house but doesn't have the gumption to buy himself at damn rake????

Bang his wife for use of your rake...

 

[mpraddict]

To the OP, maybe you need to find new friends.

 

[AZ Pete]

My in-laws have "borrowed" three of my rakes now, none of which have come back. Plastic leaf rakes, which I prefer over the old wire ones..... the kicker is, they harp on about how they prefer the metal ones over my new-fangled plastic ones...... yet they come over, take my rake, use it, then lose it. (How do you lose a rake?)

I used to get pi$$ed about it, now I just buy a new rake.

As far as my shop and my tools though..... hands off. If you go in there without my permission, you'll know about it. Maybe only two exceptions to that rule.

Maybe you should wrap up a metal rake and give it to them on the next "special occasion" like Christmas or a birthday.....