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Is brushless worth it? Dewalt drills.

Unruh

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These are the two sets I’m wondering about. I have had Dewalt for a long time and have never had a problem with them. I already have other Dewalt 20v items and won’t change. I currently have this set. It does everything I ask of it and more.


https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-...ries-1-3Ah-Charger-and-Bag-DCK240C2/204373168

I have some some money I’ve been putting aside for this set.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-...teries-2Ah-Charger-and-Bag-DCK283D2/206524075

I’m wondering if it’s worth the jump. The brushless are said to “run 57% longer”. Looks like the chucks are better...I’m sure other things too, but is it worth it? Anyone have both and have some feedback for me?
 
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I would keep the original brushed impact driver and instead of buying a new set, just upgrade to a brushless hammerdrill. That’s what I did. I bought the dcd996 and it is a beast. Yes, the chucks are better. They’re metal. I also have the brushless impact wrench, reciprocating saw and brushless circular saw. They are leaps and bounds ahead of the brushed stuff.
 
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I had a dcd796 (hammer-drill version of the dcd791) briefly but ended up returning it because they couldn't give me one where the chuck was aligned properly with the body, even after swapping it twice. The chuck itselft was just a no-name jacobs style chuck that tended to come loose when using the drill, which was really anoying. I ended up with a more expensive Makita brushless that was great for about 2 months, but now the electronic brake has stopped working, so I'm not sure I'd recommend them either.

Honestly if you like the drill you have now I wouldn't switch to brushless unless you have a specific use in mind that your older drill can't handle. If you want your drill to last longer on a single charge, just buy a bigger (like 5Ah) battery, the difference in efficiency between brushless and brushed isn't that big unless the brushes are worn out completely, so I'm curious how they even came to a 57% difference.
 
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If yours are adequate I wouldn't bother. Brushless is better, but if yours are doing the job you need em for, I can't see an advantage. I used to burn up drills every year or year and a half, going on 2 years on my Ridgid brushless kit and no problems.
When yours die, that's a good time to upgrade.
 

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I agree with the others in here in that you should keep your old one and use it unless there is a specific reason you want to upgrade to the new drill. I would then use that extra money to expand my cordless tool setup rather than upgrade my drill. You could get some nice tool that you didn't have before in a cordless version.
 
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So the feedback I’m getting is matching what I was thinking. I was thinking of just buying some extra batteries and calling it good. I think I’ll do that and keep my eyes open on Craigslist and offerup for someone selling a brushless one.
 
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I just got the dewalt 20v brushless set and really like it. it does take some getting used to, though I've only used regular drills, so the soft start of a brushless motor definitely feels different, and I have to use a slightly different technique.

I also bought an extra non-brushless dewalt to add to the set, so depending on which one I pick up, I always seem to be surprised when it does something different than what I expect when I pull the trigger...

agree with the others, I'd just invest in batteries...
 

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not so fast. i would have to check with my exact models but i have both brushed and brushless drills and impact drivers so i can give you some insight.

the brushless drill will have more power, a better chuck, and a better light. not sure if it has a side handle

the impact driver will have a better light, 3 speeds and is slightly smaller.

those features alone are worth the extra price. the extra run time is a bonus on top of that.
 
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Definitely not worth getting brushless Dewalt Drills....

Go M18 FUEL :evil:

the guy is already invested in dewalt. what is with the third grade answer?

i get real tired of somebody asking a real question and someone else pops in with a ******* response that adds nothing. if you are so proud of your stuff, why don't you at least give one reason why you like it or chose it rather than brand bash.

to the op, it looks like neither drill has a side handle but the brushless set has a belt clip on both items. home depot has a similar brushless in a case with a bigger 3 speed drill, one large and one small battery and a tough case for slightly more as another option.
 

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I just got the dewalt 20v brushless set and really like it. it does take some getting used to, though I've only used regular drills, so the soft start of a brushless motor definitely feels different, and I have to use a slightly different technique.

I also bought an extra non-brushless dewalt to add to the set, so depending on which one I pick up, I always seem to be surprised when it does something different than what I expect when I pull the trigger...

agree with the others, I'd just invest in batteries...

I have the same experience with Makita brushed/brushless.

The trigger feels a little different. Overall I prefer the brushless trigger feel, but it is different. Kind of like driving a different car and getting used to the pedals.

Overall the brushless tools are nicer, but they're not on a different level, just incrementally better in most areas. I would run the balls off the older brushed tools 'till they wear out.
 

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I’m wondering if it’s worth the jump. The brushless are said to “run 57% longer”. Looks like the chucks are better...I’m sure other things too, but is it worth it? Anyone have both and have some feedback for me?

I have both a brushed and brushless impact drivers and drills (not Dewalt but I have used their brushed 20V offerings) and I'm not sure it's really worth it when it comes to the impact driver unless it makes a significant difference in how compact the tool is or if the multi speed control has a specific benefit to how you use it. Like it if has a self-tapping mode, small screw mode or whatever.

The reality is that a lot of these new impact drivers are already strong enough to snap socket adapters, strip out screws, etc. From a power perspective I think they're reaching their useful limits. I recently had to go back to my old brushed impact driver when running 6" x 3/8" T40 lags and both ran the them fine. Yes my new Makita was more compact and was likely a little faster but I barely noticed it. And if anything I like the trigger on my old Hitachi better.

But again, from a power control perspective I think some of the tech on these new drivers is interesting. I don't have that type of speed control on my Makita brushless driver and I'm not sure if the Dewalt you linked to has it so I can't really comment further.

I do appreciate the power on my new brushless drill. I used it to pre-drill 1/4" thick angle iron and for drilling pocket holes with the Kreg HD kit where I didn't have access to electric for my corded drill. Very impressed with that new Makita drill.

So I guess this really depends on the specific features the kit you're looking at has. You mentioned the drill chuck but also look at how long/heavy each tool is and what sort of multi speed control they have vs your current set.

I also now have several other brushless tools (circular saw, reciprocating saw, angle grinders) and having compared them to fairly recent brushed versions I can say that's where I think it's worth spending the extra money. If I were in your shoes I'd be looking at spending the money you've saved on those sorts of tools, assuming you need them in cordless in the first place.

And as long as I've brought up other tools, I'll also say I seem to have an awful lot of overlap in my driving & impacting tools (clutched 1/4" driver, drill/impact driver and compact impact wrench).

Personally I think I'd be better off with an oil-pulse impact driver instead of a regular impact driver. If it wasn't up to the task for some of the lag work I do then I'd get some torx impact sockets and use my compact impact wrench for those.

Not sure what other cordless tools you have or need but I thought I'd mention that before you make your decision. For example, if you have or if you're considering a compact impact wrench then maybe see if Dewalt has or is coming out with an oil-pulse driver.
 
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I have the same experience with Makita brushed/brushless.

The trigger feels a little different. Overall I prefer the brushless trigger feel, but it is different. Kind of like driving a different car and getting used to the pedals.

Comparing my Makita brushless set to my much older Hitachi brushed set, I think I like the trigger on the Makita drill better but like the trigger on my Hitachi impact driver better.

I think the Hitachi is better for short but full power bursts. The Makita I feel like if you get it up to the power you need it's going to impact several times at least.
 
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