is it just me...?

[Snakebyt]

i dont know if it is just me, but its just annoys the hell out of me when i see people using the wrong tools for a job, Guy at work , i have seen him doing it before, always sets toe on the alignment rack with a crescent wrench and vice grips, How hard is it to grab the appropriate size combo wrench? It should even matter to me as its not my car or a car i am working on, but it does annoy me.

Was watchng some vids over on youtube, same thing, i get annoyed when people use a crescent instead of a combo wrench or socket.. again, not my project, but still irks me

is it just me?

 

[woody 73]

When time is money and you are talking about a ton of money per every hour you do whatever it takes to finish that job at hand even if it means destroying that tool in question.

If time is on your side and you are not in a rush then indeed look for the right tool and get the job done.

 

[Jlbc212]

Just another reason why I do my own wrenching, plumbing, electrical work, carpentry, etc.

 

[plinker]

When time is money and you are talking about a ton of money per every hour you do whatever it takes to finish that job at hand even if it means destroying that tool in question.

If time is on your side and you are not in a rush then indeed look for the right tool and get the job done.

Pretty much it.

It's not what anyone likes to do, but you can be left with no other choice sometimes. It really ***** when it's a fairly expensive tool.

Burning through consumables of any sort isnt much better.

 

[M6erfan]

walking to the toolbox to grab a wrench takes that much time?

 

[ChrisLS8]

I like using a pair of cresents for setting alignment. I see no issue there

 

[Wamsutta]

Actually ... believe it or not ... a Crescent wrench is superior to a combination wrench ... because there's no slop between the wrench and the fastener. But we use combination wrenches because they take up less space.

 

[plinker]

walking to the toolbox to grab a wrench takes that much time?

If you dont have the proper tool at hand or have no other options, improvising can work and may mean grinding sockets/wrenches or heating them & bending them. I've made two specially bent wrenches to remove hydraulic pumps on trucks and both saved a lot of time and other component removal by doing so.


As for the wrong tool for the job, I tend to prefer my Snap-on slip joint pliers for hose clamps (spring type), I have "proper" clamp pliers and such but prefer the slip joints as I'm used to using them for that and prefer how they work/grip.

Besides, who hasn't used a flat screwdriver for a prying tool? I just dont use my good ones. I'm all for right tool for the job, but bad habits die hard sometimes.


I did see a youtube video earlier today while looking for timing belt info, Bubba and Joe bob held the cam gear with "a big pair of Channelock's" when tightening the bolt.

 

[Snakebyt]

I understand if you dont have anything else, you use what you have to to make do, but these are people that have the right tool, but why use vice grips over a combo wrench?

 

[D-Vice]

I use an adjustable wrench on alignments, but its specifically for tie rod lock nuts.
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But yeah vice grips would annoy me as well. So not just you.

 

[American Locomotive]

I love adjustable wrenches, and use them all the time on applications where I have little risk of rounding or damaging the fastener.

Vice grips are a little sloppy, but I can't say I haven't used them on tie-rods before.

 

[plinker]

I understand if you dont have anything else, you use what you have to to make do, but these are people that have the right tool, but why use vice grips over a combo wrench?

Everybody thinks different/problem solves differently is how I look at it. Some may just not know any better or are lazy. I dont know why some one would use Vise grips in rust free area.

In the land of rust (caused by calcium chloride & salt), I've used the Snap-on PWZ pipe wrenches on tie rods simply because they are that stuck and not much else works. I dont know why some one would use Vise grips at all (not enough length), let alone in a in rust free area.

 

[zendriver]

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[jsaw]

Actually ... believe it or not ... a Crescent wrench is superior to a combination wrench ... because there's no slop between the wrench and the fastener. But we use combination wrenches because they take up less space.

Also if you use a large enough cescent wrench, (18") the jaws are wide enough so that they dont slip off the flats of the nut.
I sometimes use the crescent wrench to break a jamb nut loose, but then switch to a regular open end/ combination wrench.

 

[unslow1]

I heard somewhere that every tool has a hammer side.

 

[equitiesguy]

i dont know if it is just me, but its just annoys the hell out of me when i see people using the wrong tools for a job, Guy at work , i have seen him doing it before, always sets toe on the alignment rack with a crescent wrench and vice grips, How hard is it to grab the appropriate size combo wrench? It should even matter to me as its not my car or a car i am working on, but it does annoy me.

Was watchng some vids over on youtube, same thing, i get annoyed when people use a crescent instead of a combo wrench or socket.. again, not my project, but still irks me

is it just me?

I watched this video recently of someone replacing an Airmatic strut on an AMG and using a 17mm wrench and 13/16 wrench for the two suspension fasteners, and the same for the sockets. The worst part was he was specifically telling people to use these sizes. It absolutely annoyed me since it’s a 16mm and a 21mm. People wonder how they round off bolts and break fasteners.

 

[Bubba Fett]

I get funny looks when I reach for my measuring hammer.

 

[silver2000]

No it's definitely not just you. I cringe when I watch people using a .02 screwdriver slipping, scratching, etc. I hate working that way myself and I am far from perfect but quality tools make everything so much better. I look away sometimes watching some people working badly with junk. Like a crime scene

 

[bbrins]

I don't see an issue with the use of a crescent wrench, if used with some sense, but in my opinion, vise grips should not be a tool of first resort for a professional.

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[DGersic]

I wouldn’t use vice grips on a tie rod. Nowhere near enough leverage. But here in the land of ice, snow, salt, and rust, I’ve used pipe wrenches on them because nothing else will do the job.


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[General Geoff]

For non-seized tie rods that have flats, I use knipex pliers-wrench.

 

[Professional Tool User]

If you seriously think that you must use the correct tool for each and every job, you clearly are not using your tools to make a living. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. If you run into a situation where no tool you have will work or you don't have the tool, you'll need to make or modify a tool. This is what cheap tools are for. There's also situations where you are forced to abuse a tool to get the job done.

 

[dan360]

Flat rate doesn't pay to keep walking back & forth to your toolbox. One size fits most, in the hands of a pro, makes little difference.

In the hands of a hack, maybe, but when used properly for the application at hand many 'hack' tools like adjustable wrenches, locking pliers, slip joint pliers, etc are just fine.

 

[jagwinn]

If you seriously think that you must use the correct tool for every job, you clearly are not using your tools to make a living. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. If you run into a situation where no tool you have will work or you don't have the tool, you'll need to make or modify a tool. This is what cheap tools are for. There's also situations where you are forced to abuse a tool to get the job done.

I used my tools to make a living and I used the correct tool for the job. I apprenticed with United Grain Millers Union at the Pillsbury Mills plant in Springfield, Illinois. 1983. My Dad, brother, 3 cousins were all in maintenance. My Uncle was Maintenance Supervisor. We got our tools through the tool room; Craftsman and some other famous brands for specialties.
My Uncle would walk through the plant and if he found an adjustable wrench he would carry it to the shop, cut it in half and 'post' it on the board.

On an aside note, part of the Preventive Maintenance of GlaxoSmithKline Pharmaceuticals, Aiken, South Carolina, where I worked was to replace fasteners that had been 'rounded' or otherwise damaged as these would be considered when the Certification Inspection before a run was issued.

Yes, I strongly believe the right tool for the right job.

Oh!, I forgot! I worked for Mitsubishi Motors North America auto assembly plant in Normal, Illinois, and we would have Kaizen meetings to design tools, jigs and ergonomic stations just to insure the right tools were available. With only 57 seconds to do your part on the line per car, the right tools made the difference as the directors screamed every time someone hit the "Stop and Catch Up" button.

 

[dan360]

I used my tools to make a living and I used the correct tool for the job. I apprenticed with United Grain Millers Union at the Pillsbury Mills plant in Springfield, Illinois. 1983. My Dad, brother, 3 cousins were all in maintenance. My Uncle was Maintenance Supervisor. We got our tools through the tool room; Craftsman and some other famous brands for specialties.
My Uncle would walk through the plant and if he found an adjustable wrench he would carry it to the shop, cut it in half and 'post' it on the board.

On an aside note, part of the Preventive Maintenance of GlaxoSmithKline Pharmaceuticals, Aiken, South Carolina, where I worked was to replace fasteners that had been 'rounded' or otherwise damaged as these would be considered when the Certification Inspection before a run was issued.

Yes, I strongly believe the right tool for the right job.

Oh!, I forgot! I worked for Mitsubishi Motors North America auto assembly plant in Normal, Illinois, and we would have Kaizen meetings to design tools, jigs and ergonomic stations just to insure the right tools were available. With only 57 seconds to do your part on the line per car, the right tools made the difference as the directors screamed every time someone hit the "Stop and Catch Up" button.

And you paid for all these tools out of your own paycheck? That industrial maint mech gig was flat rate? Ya. Didn't think so. It's much easier in this scenario to have the exact tool for the job at hand.

Remember it's a big world out there.

 

[Maui]

When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

 

[Bockscar]

I used my tools to make a living and I used the correct tool for the job. I apprenticed with United Grain Millers Union at the Pillsbury Mills plant in Springfield, Illinois. 1983. My Dad, brother, 3 cousins were all in maintenance. My Uncle was Maintenance Supervisor. We got our tools through the tool room; Craftsman and some other famous brands for specialties.
My Uncle would walk through the plant and if he found an adjustable wrench he would carry it to the shop, cut it in half and 'post' it on the board.

On an aside note, part of the Preventive Maintenance of GlaxoSmithKline Pharmaceuticals, Aiken, South Carolina, where I worked was to replace fasteners that had been 'rounded' or otherwise damaged as these would be considered when the Certification Inspection before a run was issued.

Yes, I strongly believe the right tool for the right job.

Oh!, I forgot! I worked for Mitsubishi Motors North America auto assembly plant in Normal, Illinois, and we would have Kaizen meetings to design tools, jigs and ergonomic stations just to insure the right tools were available. With only 57 seconds to do your part on the line per car, the right tools made the difference as the directors screamed every time someone hit the "Stop and Catch Up" button.

I work maintenance in a production facility.....I carry a 6" adjustable in my pocket at all times.....carring a tool pouch doesn't leave room for wrenches.... so adjustables are essential....especially when production supervisors are on your **** wondering how fast you can get their stuff back up and running.....I have fixed more things with my 6" adjustable, multi-tool and a pocket screwdriver than I can think of

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