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Is Klein faking reviews on Amazon?

Milwookie

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I've always found it curious that there's a big disparity between the reviews that Klein tools get on Amazon and the complaints about quality on various tool forums. Knipex also has lots of five star reviews, but I rarely read complaints that aren't based on not being made in 'Murica or their cost.

I took a few products and ran them through Fakespot, which uses statistical analysis to determine whether a product may have fake reviews. The results were concerning.

The products that would likely be the most suspicious would be new products, products with only a handful of reviews, or products with polar reviews, meaning lots of five star and 1 star, but not much in between.

Interestingly, the Klein 11-in-1 initially got a C rating from Fakespot. Ouch. I did a reanalysis and it bounced up to an A, but that is still concerning because it means when the product didn't have a lot of reviews yet the preponderance appeared to be fake.

Every single Knipex tool I tested got an A. About 1/4 of the Klein tools I tested got a C (a handful of those were old analyses, and when retested got an A). Quite often, any product with less than 5 stars had a higher than expected percentage of suspicious reviews, as if they're trying to boost up tools which aren't reviewed highly.

One example is the Klein 4-in-1 electronics screwdriver, which has 7 reviews and five stars, and Fakespot gave it a C:
http://fakespot.com/product/klein-tools-32581-4-in-1-electronics-screwdriver

One of Klein's better known products, the Journeyman Linesman, got a B rating. 20% of the reviews looked suspicious, which is a lot:
http://fakespot.com/product/klein-t...verage-side-cutting-pliers-connector-crimping

And another with a B:
http://fakespot.com/product/klein-t...age-side-cutting-and-connector-crimping-plier

About 50% of the tools I tested got a B rating. Again, every single Knipex tool I tested got an A, indicating the reviews didn't look suspicious at all. And to be fair, plenty of Klein tools also got an A. But for any tool to have suspicious results is, well, suspicious. Klein shouldn't be buying any reviews, so to have so many tools showing a B rating is pretty suspect.

Of course this isn't a hard science. The analysis that Fakespot uses is based on a variety of factors, including repeating of exact phrases, other reviews by reviewers, lots of reviews in a short period of time, etc. But considering that Knipex was so different in terms of results, I would put money on the fact that Klein is paying for five-star reviews on Amazon.
 
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Re: Klein is faking reviews on Amazon

The products to stay away from are the ones with reviews that say "I was given the product for free in return for my fair and honest review"... they are usually these long, detailed reviews and always end with a 5 star rating..
 

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Re: Klein is faking reviews on Amazon

Is this an add for Fakespot? Where can I find a review of this company?
 
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Thanks. And Fakespot takes into account wording that indicates if a reviewer was given the product in consideration for the review.

And no, it's not an ad for Fakespot. There are other websites that do the same thing, I just chose Fakespot because they're trusted by thesweethome.com.
 

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Any idea how Fakespot of the other review sites determine if a review is bogus?
 

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All of those sites just ask Fred, he determines if reviews are fake or not, he actually does it for the entire internet.
 

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Re: Klein is faking reviews on Amazon

The products to stay away from are the ones with reviews that say "I was given the product for free in return for my fair and honest review"... they are usually these long, detailed reviews and always end with a 5 star rating..

My biggest beef with those is, they are given to people who have no use for and a lot of times don't even know what a tool is for. They say it is very high quality and "I haven't gotten to use it yet but it is great".
 
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Loscaldazar

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It also says that it looks for fake reviews AND low quality reviews. So they could all be legit reviews and still get a C or whatever because the reviews are "low quality".

Sorry, don't think we have a scandal here.
 

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Amazon did get fined recently and it was a huge fine too.Sent out some type of drain cleaner and it did injure some UPS delivery guys in Colorado.Burns were the injuries.Never marked the box hazardous
 

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Re: Klein is faking reviews on Amazon

The products to stay away from are the ones with reviews that say "I was given the product for free in return for my fair and honest review"... they are usually these long, detailed reviews and always end with a 5 star rating..

So true, what an utter waste of time. "Oh look, a doofus who never would have bought this got it free and is jazzed about free money so left a glowing, meaningless review. I will make sure to take his useless opinion into consideration." That's one of the main reasons I decided not even to give the wilton atv a chance, nothing but tons of useless, devaluing reviews on it.
 

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So - Amazon reviews are on the internet so they must be true.
And Fakespot is on the internet so what they say must be true.

So - I would implode worrying about that that circular logic if I didn't already know not to believe either one of them.
 

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What ever happened to asking friends and family and Co workers? I can honestly say I have never bought something because of a review on a website. I have asked opinions here but never put any weight on any review from Amazon or any other site.
 

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No idea about Fakespot, or whatever that is, but I have a pair of Klein lineman pliers and I absolutely love them. I don't have a single complaint. I can't say the same about my Knipex pliers. The only Knipex pliers I've used (I haven't used all that many of them) and been impressed with have been the Knipex mini bolt cutters.
 

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What ever happened to asking friends and family and Co workers? I can honestly say I have never bought something because of a review on a website. I have asked opinions here but never put any weight on any review from Amazon or any other site.

My friends and family look at my purchases like this :wtf: or like this :confused:

Most wonder why I wanted a lawn mower that uses a battery, why I don't build SBC's since they are "cost effective", and/or why I "wasted" my money on my overkill Snap-on Tools / made in the USA equipment & shop tools.

Sometimes the online reviews on various websites are all that one can base their decision off of.

For what it is worth, I love my 21" self propelled Ego mower. I was all set to order the 21" non self propelled version. I started reading the reviews and was turned onto the 21" self propelled version which only has a 1,000W motor as opposed to the 700W on the non-self propelled version. I do not use the self propelled option as I do not feel the want to, nor do I want to sacrifice any run time to do so, but I sure am glad I read the reviews. The 21" SP truly has the power of a gas engine without any of the cons of one.
 
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